Thoughts about Windows 10

Rolling back IS time sensitive. You have 30 days, give or take. And that 30 days is solely based upon your computer's clock and has nothing to do with real-world installation time. For example, when I did my Windows 10 upgrade testing, I set the clock in the BIOS to the future and then back again, and the option to go back disappeared.

 

D'oh! Bad wording on my part. I meant time sensitive as in being permanently stuck with Windows 10 with no way to reinstall/activate a previous version. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Hence why you should burn out your recovery discs first, if your computer didn't come with any physical installation media.
Even if it's not for the sake of reinstalling Windows 7/8 after feeling unsatisfied with Windows 10, HDDs can fail and you will need to reinstall Windows onto a new disk someday.

 

I think windows 10 is awesome. I was one of those people who hated Windows 8 and stayed on Windows 7. I was hesitant to try Windows 10, but it's now my favorite.

 

That is the first thing I do whenever I buy prebuilt computers. I really miss the inclusion of a pressed install disc by manufacturers.

 

Reason to bump the old thread is to say i've just installed Windows 10 Professional OS on my three Intel NUC computers, everything worked perfectly first time, no errors; seamless - and old programs work great too, including my wife's old Windows 95 game, Boggle.

Happy!

 

I've been using 10 since technical preview and it is way more stable and compatible than windows 8.

 

I never found any stability issues with 8. It's also basically the same compatibility wise, with same direct draw things removed as 8.

Only compatibility improvements id imagine you will see is because apps have been updated to work on 8 by now and just work on 10.

The thing happened with 7, Vista took all the flak and things didn't work with new permissions and directory layout. By the time 7 was out, most apps were updated to work with Vista and therefore worked on 7.

 

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But if they have revoked the key and tied it to windows 10, thats still going to end up with inactive windows eventually.

If you have an OEM pc though, you will be fine. They dont use the key on the side of the pc/laptop. They use a OEM key that is tied to the bios and doesnt even try to activate online (uses bios, cert file and the oem key).

 

You'll have to eventually go on Windows 10 anyway, it's a worth while upgrade too.

If anyone still uses Office 2003 or earlier, it won't work with Windows 10 give or take. 03 could work however not officially supported. I've worked on PCs even with Office 97 on them... People really don't like upgrading anything..

 

Well, upgrading costs money and it can be hard to justify when there are no functional improvements. Plus, a lot of people absolutely hate the ribbon implementation. I still can't figure out how to use the ribbon versions of Visio...

 

That's true, but if a product isn't officially supported those people shouldn't complain that new things are not compatible. Can't really expect Office from 97 to work with newer hardware or software configurations today, if it's served you well up until now.

Ribbon for me isn't so bad, but still prefer dropdown menus as it feels more organised for me. 2016 Office completely hides all controls to open up your work space, but really to change font size and basic things it involves more mouse clicks. So I can understand your frustration.

 

They aren't revoking any keys. Only the rollback is time-sensitive, as in you have 30 days or so to choose to roll-back. Otherwise, you will have to re-install your old OS with the original media if you ever choose to downgrade.

I read an article online, and any upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7/8 will result in a special license being used. The tell-tale sign is that the license number is the same across all PCs.

I'm still waiting for them to fix the bugs that I run into.
If a program prevents Windows 10 from logging off and you hit the cancel button to abort the log-off operation, Windows 10 may get left in a semi-dead state that doesn't allow you to start any programs because part of Windows was already shut down. The only option would be to complete the log off from the CTRL+ALT+DEL menu because even the start menu doesn't work.

As for 3rd party stuff:
Firefox is still glitching on me; I see dancing dots in Youtube videos with the HTML5 player, the whole window sometimes blanks out. As of my presentation week about a month ago, Intel still hasn't issued Windows 10 drivers for the Intel XHCI USB 3.0 interface, so we're using the Microsoft generic drivers.
Not a biggie... but I think that it's the cause of a BSOD that I encountered when a friend unplugged the presentation remote device from the USB 3.0 port of my laptop.


Stuff that annoys me now: why did they tablet'ify everything? My beloved calculator (I use it for programming), now takes 3s to boot because they insist on displaying a logo like with phone apps.I also found the old UI more intuitive (why get rid of the radio buttons and colours?). :S
The control panel is now more confusing because they group everything into large, vague groups. There's no option to turn this off either.

Part of the problem now is that there's no concept of loading bars for tablet OSes, as everything is supposed to be fast. Unfortunately, they also made the installation of Windows updates mandatory and it's done without your knowledge. So if it installs updates, you choose to reboot your laptop PC and your computer is in a state that causes slow performance (i.e. running on battery power), it may show you a black screen at reboot that lasts for a few minutes as it completes the installation of the Windows updates. If your computer is like mine that lacks a HDD activity indicator LED (Why Lenovo, why?), you cannot tell if Windows has hung or not.

This isn't new because it seems to have happened since Windows 8: ad-hoc Wireless network creation was removed, with still no proper replacement. There are workarounds for this, but there isn't a substitute for it that doesn't involve any tweaking (this isn't Linux, for crying out loud!).

One good thing that they've done, although I'm not sure if it was already done in Windows 8: the advanced search panel is (somewhat) back.

As a whole, I think that it's worth the upgrade if you're using Windows 8. But it's still far from being the stable OS that Windows XP and 7 are.

 

Win10 is a botnet and win8 is terrible to look at and bloated with that metro crap. Win7 is best gril.

 

Your biggest mistake was buying a Lenovo, because holy shit has that company gone down the drain in recent years.

 

Windows 10 is also bloated, if you think about it. Upon a fresh installation, your start menu is flooded with a lot of bloatware that it's hard to find the program (aka app) that you want to launch. Unless you search for it. But then what's the point of the start menu then? What happened to the concept of folders inside the start menu? This isn't a tablet!!!

Sadly, Nanami (Windows 7) is already 6 years old. She'll be EOL'ed soon. :/

I found my new (budget) laptop quite okay actually, other than the fact that it came with Windows 8 and is now running Windows 10. My previous notebook was also a Lenovo and I loved it, hence why I continued with this brand.
The only reason why I replaced it, was because the keyboard failed due to age (5 years). I eventually ordered a replacement keyboard from eBay and it's working great again, as a backup laptop.

But of course, it's possibly because I have low expectations of laptop computers. I'm mainly a desktop user.

 

Had to fix an old laptop for a friend and replace the HDD with an SSD.
I thought that it was a good idea to install Windows 10 and I'm not disappointed.

The laptop is from 2010, it has a Pentium dual core CPU, 3gb of ram and Intel GMA graphics.
Intel's official website says that Windows 8 is the latest OS to support Intel GMA graphics, but to my suprise when I installed Windows 10, it already had the graphics driver.
I
t boots in about 15 seconds and that's just 3 seconds slower than my much more powerful desktop PC.
Windows 10 is very well optimised.

 

In the end, I only added Win10 to my spare Lumia phone and kept it off my netbooks for now. I'm one of those ribbon ui haters too. To avoid it, I use Office 2000 w/ compatibility pack and Vista's MS Paint on Win7/8.

 

Why Office 2000? Just curious (Office 2k3 w/comp pack is still my favorite).

Fun fact: A lot older built-in Windows programs that came out of Win 3.x/9x (Solitaire, MS Paint, Wordpad, etc) were converted to x64 applications just for Windows XP x64 Edition. They are nice to have on 7, just needs the right DLL files to be in order.