Virtua Fighter 5 OUT NOW

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  1. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    Honestly if its better then vf evo then it will be the ultimate fighting game for me. I think with the online they could do the vf network over it, and im sure microsoft would fully back them up. The reason they are making it ps3 exclusive is the fact that
    both 4 and evo were on ps2 so its like continuing the serise for one platform. Though theres a good chance they will port it to 360, cause with the ps3 version I doubt they will make their money back on the game.
     
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  2. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Impossible. In the VF world, there are 60 frames per second. Some moves take a mere 4 frames to execute/recover from. Then there's all the other bullshit. If you're on a Gigabit network in the same building, maybe. DSL or Cable? Forget about it. The engine will have to be dumbed down for it to work, and that will kill the game.

    THat's just coincidence. They're putting it on the PS3 b/c that's going to be their main target audience in Japan. NObody owns a 360, and nobody in America buys VF b/c there aren't enough tits in it. It's a Japanese-centered, arcade franchise, and will stay that way for the forseeable future.
     
  3. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Forever. Sega have other franchises for 'dumbed down' gameplay - Fighting Vipers and Last Bronx. In fact, I would love to see a new Fighting Vipers game on the next generation consoles!
     
  4. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    This is truth. Any games that rely on split-second responses seriously suffer from internet latency, fighting games more so than others. It's one of the main reasons I don't really play games online, right next to having to deal with the smacktalk bullshit.
     
  5. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Taucias: You know Last Bronx is getting a Sega Ages release? It's just an arcade port though.
     
  6. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Yeah I did. Not sure if it features graphical updates though. Is it "just" a port of the Model 2 game, or is it a port of the Saturn game? I pray for the former.

    I also believe Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter 2 got ports. Did they get released in the USA? Any idea how good the ports are? Shun's Bridge!
     
  7. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Last Bronx is an arcade port, not a Saturn port. They say they got the idea from all the positive feedback of the VF2 port, which is supposedly pretty good.
     
  8. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    What if they had two separate engines for online and offline play? Then they could have an online mode and it wouldn't ruin the offline one. I suppose that could be rather difficult to do, though.
     
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  9. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    Well I guess japan favored the port, alot of importers were complaing that virtua fighter 2 had a ton of texture adn warping issuses, as well as some slowdown. I've played it and can say its pretty close, but is not at arcade perfect. Though the ages releases for fighting vipers and last bronx from what i played seem arcade perfect.
     
  10. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Personally, a bad idea I think. The ports are purchased for one reason, and one reason only -- to get better for the arcades, where the competition is tough. It's just the way the VF scene is in Asia, which is Sega's primary focus for the series. If the west was taken in by it at some point, perhaps, but the numbers for the last few installments weren't there.

    Well, I was actually reading the blurb on the official page. COuld've just been clever advertising.
     
  11. Morden

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    I actually made a special effort to get my hands on Virtua Fighter 2 for PlayStation 2 as soon as it came out. I always felt that Saturn version, though superb in terms of gameplay, lacked the little extra of what made VF2 the king of arcades.

    Those who played the game in the arcades just after it came out know what I'm talking about. It was a huge leap forward in terms of both gameplay and graphics. It played and looked stunning.

    Saturn version still played great, but you could forget about all the 3D backgrounds. A detail one might say, but tell, were you impressed the first time you were on that raft and it went under the bridge? I sure was.

    In the arcades, the game had strong colors, flawless, lightning fast animation and was crystal clear and sharp.

    When I first played the port, I was dissapointed right away. First of all, what's with the colors? They seem so dull compared to the properly saturated original. Every color in the ported version got a bit of grey in it, which really bothers me.

    Another thing is the resolution / crispiness of the graphics. I don't know whether Model 2 version ran at higher resolution or not, but it sure looks like it did.

    All of this really pissed me off, because you see games like Virtua Fighter 4 and Tekken 5, they both are ages ahead of Model 2 level of complexity, and still Sega manages to screw this up. Just like they did with Virtua Fighter 3.

    Virtua Fighter 3 in its original version had so much more detail, even if it was the small things like a jacket that hangs loosely on a model [Jacky] and moves like the character. In DreamCast port it was stiff like a vest cut out of a cardboard box. Seeing Soul Calibur i'll never get over how they half assed the job.

    Yea, the game has to be out in time, Model 3 is so much different from DreamCast, blah blah blah blah blah... There's always an explenation. But I'd rather wait for a title than see it being a half assed port.
     
  12. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Model 2 runs at 22khz, so that's why the crispness is not there. Very few monitors support 22khz, so it's not really an option to put it in. Just think of all the 2D games on System24 hardware that have to be repainted (or look like shit) to play on low and high res display. :(

    Re VF3:
    It was a rushed port. They put little money into it, and AM2 didn't handle it, hence, the quality.
     
  13. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    Well an intresting story on the reason the ps2 port of vf2 turned out the way it did. In an interview that sega of japans site had i think, the developers discussed how when they went to do the port for ps2, they had lost the source code to the game so they had to emulate it.

    The final result is a washed out look with some off textures due to them having to emulate instead. Some people also complained how the timing and framerate were slightly off. Though in response they said the orignal arcade ran at 57.7 fps and that the testers felt the saturn version was off in timing compared to the arcade.
     
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  14. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    The way I read it, they only lost certain parts of source code, and had to emulate those parts, so the effort is some port, some emulation.
     
  15. pitsunami

    pitsunami 3DO maniac

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    forget the ps2 its hardware is crap. fortunately ebay is here and the arcades are easy to obtain.i got my naomi2 with vf4 and vf2 arcade and i threw my ps2 to the garbage bin:icon_bigg
    well i thought ivf4 was the top, that it couldnt get better... now vf5 is out and its incredible,if anyone is interested i sell one of my kidneys to buy the lindbergh.ahhhhhh lucky japanese guys i envy you sooooooooo much:banghead: :banghead:
     
  16. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Pos Paei?! I might be wrong but I didn't think it was possible to play VF2 on the Naomi2 hardware? Also I have never seen a video arcade in Greece either!
     
  17. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    I think he meant vf4 for naomi2, and vf2 arcade seperate
     
  18. pitsunami

    pitsunami 3DO maniac

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    yep thats what i meant vf4 on naomi and vf2 on model 2. greece is out of arcades they have locked them because they say its gambling. bullshit but we cant do anything.:crying:
     
  19. pitsunami

    pitsunami 3DO maniac

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    :icon_bigg
    pos paei ola kala? ellinas or not?:icon_bigg
     
  20. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Please speak english on the forum.
     
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