Will sonic and the secret rings bring 'sonic back to genesis form'

Ign just did a major Sonic & the Secret Rings update

videos, hand-on report, and a bunch of screens.

now I loved sonic adventure 2 but, I'll admit the camera was pretty sucky and the levels without sonic or shadow were tedious.

I never got around to playing the other last gen/next gen titles such as Heros or Shadow the hedgehog, or the new 'sonic the hedgehog' but I heard they sucked.


The hands on report claims that this is the title to bring him back...

What do you guys think? cause this is the first time I've been excited for a sonic title in a long time.


But, 10 levels does sound kind of short, also I'm gonna the whole chao garden aspect of the game.

 

how the hell should i know, i havent played the game

 

I have high hopes for this game, that's all I have to say. Yes, Heroes, Shadow, and New Sonic all sucked, as does the Sonic 1 GBA port. I should know, I've played them all. The Sonic 1 GBA port being the worst game I've EVER played.

 

cheese, i haven't played the GBA port, what's wrong with it?

 

What's wrong with the GBA Port? Everything

http://www.gamespot.com/gba/action/...s/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary

Gamespot's review: 2.5 out of 10

Also, I really hope this Wii title is good. To me, the last good Sonic game was Sonic Rush.

 

If they want to fix Sonic, they need to get the old game engine and update it. Have all lucid 2D graphics, classic gameplay with additions and such. 3D platformers don't mix with Sonic really. :O

 

If there is one thing I don't understand, it is why they don't follow suit like Capcom has done with most of their fighting games and use older sprites for their 2D games. Hell, sonic is one of the few series that would be awesome using the old engine and sprite style.

 

The Sonic game on the XBOX 360 is a piece of crap too.

 

Nothing like Marvel Vs. Capcom 2's ubber pixelated sprites on 3D rendered smooth backgrounds. Where's our Marvel Vs. Capcom 3? Guess they don't have any more sprites to recycle? =)

 

It better not suck!

 

Sprites? how many non-portable 2D games are best sellers? (emulated and refried ones doesnt counts) none, know why? becos the mainstream doesnt wants them, and they are big part of the market, no us.

Anyway, both SA games were alright, SH I think was the most abysmal sonic game ever, even more than S3DB, and Shadow well, lets not talk about that one...

The new sonic was a complete disaster, specially since most mags were all over it until the review, sayin it was pretty cool and it would fill the void let by the past games, what a bunch of liars...

I really wonder if S&SR is really that good or if we're listening to the hype machine again. About the graphics, the guys who wrote that are retarded or what? what can you expect from a hardware thats more than 5 years old?

And 30FPS? WTF? if thats what a high poly count and blur does I'll rather had some blocky graphics instead...

Lets just hope it doesnt sucks.

 

I will definitely rent it first,if its good than I will end up getting it. snoogens

 

Pikkon, big Jay and Silent Bob fan eh ?;p

 

Bullshit. The market doesn't have a choice. Once the 3D "revolution" started, every developer switched from using sprites to polygons because they felt it was necessary in order to compete with each other. Magazine and other game reviewers (all of which only hurt the industry in my opinion) began to bad-mouth any game which continued to use a 2D style of play, sprites or tile maps. Hence, developers effectively stopped doing those games to prevent being bad-mouthed by reviewers.

We (as gamers in general) have pretty much lost the side/vertical scroller genre because there is an artificial belief that no one wants 2D style games. There is absolutely no reason that polygons (or splatting/volume rendering techniques) couldn't be used for genres usually pigeonholed as 2D. Sure, there are some games that do this, but they are few and far between.

Do not presume to say that it is because the market does not want the games. How can the market choose to play games which do not exist?

 

You know, I knew all along Sonic 360 was going to suck. It's previews were the same as Shadow in the snes that, "If the fixed this, this, and this it'll be alright."

Pretty much.
To give you an diea of home much I LOATHE that port, I think Gamespot's score is too high.

 

Personally, I think Sonic Team focused too much on getting physics in the actual game instead of anything else (It was one of the few big things that survived their first demonstrations). That, and they wanted to get it out by Christmas.

Also, why the hell does Sega keep whoring out characters no one wants to play? The whole concept of the 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog was for it to be a fresh start for the series, closer to it's roots.

Instead, we got a poorly coded Sonic Adventure that uses broken concepts, a weak and stupid plot that has nothing to do with anything else in the series, forced to play as certain characters during other character's adventure (Such as switching to shadow for no reason in Silver's story), and just being buggy, unpolished, and unfinished.

 

There's still a few 2D games out there, and arent exactly sold out...

Yes I agree about the bad PR campaign against 2D, which some say was funded mostly be sony cuz the PSX was designed for 3D and sucked when handling 2D.

The problem in my opinion is with the new generations, whose first console was the PSX and therefore is like "once you go 3D, theres no way back" since some of them react to 2D like if it was either obsolete or just plain weird...

Or maybe is just a trend, after all theres a lot of stupid trends in every market, like now that some brands say brown is the new black....

EDIT: the new sonic is going to be $60, just like any other nextgen games...just that, you know, is not really nextgen...

 

" EDIT: the new sonic is going to be $60, just like any other nextgen games...just that, you know, is not really nextgen..."

Which one are you talking about? The PS3/360 Sonic? In that case, of course. Everyone and their mothers already knew that. It's so obvious.

The Wii Sonic and the Secret Rings will be $50 just like every other Wii game (save for the few that are $40).

Your tone leads me to believe that you're trying to poke fun at the Wii version, but I imagine you're just pissing all over the poor, soon-to-be-released PS3 port, in which case, I encourage you. The 360 one is crap, and it's not like you can improve it...

 

:banghead:

I'm obviously talking about S&SR, and about the price...

Check the web if you dont believe, but hey! nintendo is already heavily overpriced so what if one game is overpriced too?...

 

Too bad that's a load of crap. Sonic&SR isn't going to retail for 59.99 USD. It's going to be 49.99 like all the other U.S. Wii titles. "Where's your source?" None-but common sense.