Yahoo Japan Links, Images, etc. Part II

Dang, that's one hell of a record...

 

I forgot to say that those paranoids freaks in 2ch thread associated 10-15 persons with me..at that time i was adolfrance,and not anybody else
Those guys managed to associate 10-15 other persons,because it "seemed" they were french, to be me.
Like if i was god powerful,with unlimited money,and was bidding on 95% of the auctions.
RIDICULOUS.

But when other foreign buyers with THOUSANDS of auctions won appeared, NOTHING.

or when rinkya/celga/companies of that kind appeared, NOTHING.

So hypocrit.

 

I'm guessing that now you're doing the exact same thing than me,but 7 years later, you don't deserve to be insulted and claimed as a scammer (which again,is virtually impossible since buyer pays first)?

That's SO hypocrit from their part.

I was just the first to do it, the scapegoat in 1 way.

 

Hey, I'm only going on whatt he Japanese are saying, I have no idea what you do. If you do what you say you do then I can't see it as scaming and yes I do see it as the sellers being arse holes.

Yakumo

 

They are being racist pricks, pure and simple. But if all you're doing is buying their product to sell elsewhere, I can totally understand them turning around and saying, I'd rather sell this to someone who actually wants it.

 

No, they weren't really. I'm sure at some point Adol had a contact in Japan, but I recall many of them saying in feedback, AFTER talking with him "sorry, I will not ship abroad". I don't see them saying this after you've given them a Japanese address to ship to. I even recall one of your many accounts in the self-introduction saying in Japanese "It's easy to ship abroad" -- pure asshole that comment is.

Even with a contact in Japan though, unless he was doing the transaction for you, I'm sure most would turn you away. This was before Japan Net Bank or Kantan Kessai. IPMO? I would've turned you down.

So, sellers on YJ are racist? I've got 660/662 positive feedback (1 was a psycho, 1 was one I actually did forget to pay). There's probably another 300-400 non-feedbacked auctions. ONE time, when I sent my mail, the seller said "sorry, I don't ship abroad". I then explained I actually live in Tokyo, and of course, he came through w/ the deal. Maybe a few didn't want to deal w/ you b/c you lacked command of the langauge. People get turned down for apartments for that exact reason all the time... seems it would be the same for any contract where communication is necesssary.

And I really don't buy it that you had a contact willing to act on your behalf (recieveing and paying) and everyone flat out turned you down. Why? I operated like this for over 2 years when I lived in Hawaii. Never had a problem. Probably 25% of them shipped directly to me when I actually asked before the auction was over.
EDIT: I take that back. One guy turned me down. I kept changing the address to ship to, and he just said "this is too much trouble. Sorry, I won't give you negative feedback, but I'm going to sell to the 2nd highest bidder".

Well, I did the same thing at the same time. You didn't exactly have great prices though, so that doesn't really win any friends.

Proves my point. They had tact, and lived in Japan.

How many adolfrance variations did you have (2000, 2001, etc.). I know there were a few... I kept watching them start off and get negative feedbacks.

And finally: Under the supposition that all sellers are racist. Anyone ever heard of the saying, "When in Rome"? If you couldn't figure it out by now, Japan is a racist country, on many levels. There's tons of shit you have to put up with to live here. But that's just the point. Once you've lived here for a certain time, you know how to deal with it. Don't like it? Leave... if you don't live here and don't like it... dont' do business with them. Simple as that. It is their country... we really don't have a right to tell them how to act in it. I know I don't, although I will make fun of them from time to time.

 

i have no idea what the story between adol vs japan is but.. as long as you are very polite you will have no problem dealing with the japanese.

i think thats the main problem, european people are generally not overly polite because the european culture is a little different.
when im doing buisness i always make an effort to be polite and straightforward towards the people im dealing with, hence ive never had any problems buying/selling stuff regardless of whos selling.

i highly doubt Adol is a scammer, proboably just a little blunt by japanese standards.

presenting yourself as the victim of everyone else being unfair is usually the treat of a guilty man that knows it tho..

 

Actually,there was 50% of the games i wanted for myselmf, 50% i sold on Ebay
When i buy a 40 games lot,i keep 20 and sell 20,how would you "categorize" this auction then? For yourself or for sale?

 

And that's why,even at that time, 75% of auctiosn were conclusive.
If i was that bad,it'd be 0%,right?
Again,Gaijinpunch was talking about the 3-4 pricks that managed to put a 2ch subject just because they weren't happy i overbid them constantly on many games they wanted to.
This was their best shot to eliminate me as a "high bidder"
Now Celga/rinkya "democratized" the process and many Gaijins can bid on the stuff they want,they can't "fight aginst the wave of the ocean", andf they just have to "compete" with bidders ready to pay more than them.
In 2000,i was 1 of few,and it was easier for them to try to put me down.

I present myself as a victim of those 4-5 idiots,not of everyone else.
I was very happy dealing with kind japanese sellers, and they were too..this was about 75% of the dealings.
But Gaijinpunch like to speak about the minor cases.

 

Really?
Every where has its pricks and normal people. I`ve have come across a fair number of pricks here in Toulouse.

 

sorry to interrupt the discussion but there's this for sale now and I've never seen one before. ("Slam Dunk" hibaihin, apparently could be won at some competition in Shonen Jump magazine, currently at 60.000 Yen, most expensive SFC game maybe?)

 

Uh... the standard internal bank transfer. They get it the next day. It's not that it's the money order (although cash is better) it's waiting on it in the mail. I wouldn't have done it. How many ebay buyers quit taking money orders once Paypal came around? It's a hassle, and they had every right to turn you down.

Back then you didn't. When the shit hit the fan I recall some goods, but almost equal amount of negative. I'm sure now if you have a contact and you're doing this properly, there is no problem.

Let's use common sense:
Someone carries themself tactfully and follows standard practices, and can communicate properly with someone and has almost zero negative feedback. Is this due to luck? I think not.

Yeah, how dare people want to be able to communicate properly. Communication is only the foundation of business, not to mention society. And that's also not addressing the fact it says you have to be able to read and write Japanese to participate.

And were you conducting business on yahoo.fr?

And I have the record to prove that that is simply not true.

I read those feedbacks, and I read the 2ch thread. Being rude to someone (and making them work to understand it) is definitely not tactful. Did you ever think you just had a flat out shit reputation once you had a few of these feedback wars on your hands? They were unbelievable... similar to how you're acting now if I may be so bold.

Yeah, we can see biting your toungue is not your strong point.

I recall several positive feedbacks in your profile. There were a ton of negatives though (well over 100...maybe 200). I assume your account has been purged since then. Having more than 2% negative feedback is not a good thing, so of course I remember the bad. \

So the fuck what? You don't have to push your culture on everyone else... that's reserved for Americans. Besides, if everyone went on a converting rapage, everyone would be bashing you as a member of a race that is traditionally complete assholes to those that don't speak their langauge... I don't necessarily make the connection, so I don't act on it. Went to Paris once. Had a great time, and nobody was rude to me (maybe b/c I was speaking Japanese to my wife the whole trip... don't know). Anyways, I've worked professionally w/ many Frenchies. A French person holds the rank for biggest scumbag (professionally) I know, and another Frenchy holds the rank for perhaps most laid back and helpful.

3-4? C'mon man. Quit blowing sunshine up our assess. You had well over 100 negative feedbacks. Convenient the account is now gone. Guess it's my word against yours. Everyone can believe what they want. Do you really think I would remember an account w/ 4 negative feedbacks after 8 years?

You still don't believe it had anything to do w/ your demeanor and lack of communication?

Nah, not most expensive. You can find them in Akihabara regularly as well.

 

I'm not talking about pricks&good people.I was talking about "hospitality", that we don't see foreigners as inferior people.
In fact,very few countries in the world he as much immigrants as France.
And no country has that much tourists.

 

Yeah, you treat your immigrants so well they're dancing in the street... wait, is that a molotov cocktail in his hand?

I'm playing devil's advocate, but there's some truth in it.

 

I didn't claim to, but I do know you buy reputation, and this is not a 1 or 2 time affair, and it wasn't recent. This was a while ago. Obviously it was something relatively significant for anyone to remember.

I recall several positive feedbacks in your profile. There were a ton of negatives though (well over 100...maybe 200).
Yeah,for over 1500 positive.[/quote]

Not then. Not that I recall. Even so, 2000 positives and 200 negatives is pretty piss poor. That's 10% negative. I'd rather not deal with those people. You can twist my words around saying I'm a pessimist and only focus on the negative all you want. Do I know you? No. But I know the way you came off, and not to just a few people.

B/c it says so on Yahoo. Tried to find your 1500+ feedbacks, but I see the adol_france account is no longer in their database... unless I'm missing something.

Location. The only people who can hop over to the US on a train or a car are Canadians & Mexicans. The former hate us and the latter aren't allowed (sort of).

Just bad mouthing a nation in general.

Another seller told me they purged it ages ago due to the trouble associated with it.

I guess I could walk through mine fields unscathed then. Most of the gaijin comments I got were, "wow, I've never talked to a foreigner before".

I did appreciate the whole debacle though. I bid right under you in countless auctions b/c I knew they'd cancel your bid when the auction was over. Got a few things on the cheap that way.

 

Its the pricks who spoil your "hospitality". As for foreigners seen as inferior people yes it does happen in France indeed to a degree can happen anywhere in the world. You also forgetting the riots that happened in France.
All im trying to say is France ins`t the perfect place your trying to portray it as.

 

No place is perfect. and as for racism its not completely right but its a normal human behaviour.

 

So, ehm could we maybe just get back on topic and continue the OT discussion in PM or something ?