Yahoo Japan Links, Images, etc. Part II

Was anyone here bidding on the Goemon 3 and Parodius sample carts on Yahoo!?

http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j43356009

 

I wasn't,but was surprised of the final price though.

 

I did it because the guys there were already calling Thibaut a "selfish scrooge" and "hoarder" DAYS before Thibaut even GET the item, and/or said anything about what he'll do with it.
Besides,Thibaut barely writes english (mine isn't perfect as well,but probably better than their french, for sure).
That was outrageously unfair for him. All what followed was stupid comments (even racist) about them claiming i own PC cocoron, and told so, and me answering i don't and never did such thing.
Yes, they were arrogant enough to know better than me what i own,and what i should (not) do with it, or what Thibault would do with his game.
They classified me as a "hoarder",because i was hoarding something ii never owned (PC Cocoron). Brilliant.

Matthewcallis: what i was referring to as a "financial sacrifice" wasn't meant to be understood that way.
I meant than:
When you pay $1600 for something that other people want for $0, and insult you if you don't share it, it'd mean you're the "sacrificed goat" paying $1600 for others.
With such meaning, it is a financial sacrifice (you paying for others).
I have followed that path quite enough to know the reactions it makes.
The most decent way to deal with this was to ask him if they could raise that amount for him to release it. That what civilized "communities" do.
But instantly categorizing him as a "selfish scrooge" and "hoarder" is insulting.
The poor guy didn't even get the item,for god's sake.
Besides, how counter-productive is that?
If you want something form someone,beginning the communication by insulting and lapidating him for nothing, do you really think you'll obtain what you want? Seriously..

After that,i got PMs from a guy named tomaitheous saying Thibaut or me are the kind of "hoarders", which Assembler Games forums are full of.
I don't see exactly what i hoarded,or assembler forums members hoarded, and asked to clarify his point of view. Of course,no answer was given.

 

Is it wrong to be a hoarder?

Isnt that what collecting anything is?

 

But on the list of your games PC Cocoron was listed on it, but then it got deleted at that time, and I think all the different reasons you said for it made it seem you wasn't telling the truth, which I think made them upset the most. The main topic of the thread got completely lost after that.

 

It seems than for most of users there, yes it is wrong.

My brother made the list on that website (pcedaisakusen),not me.He ticked 700 boxes,and was mistaken on 1 (who hasn't made 1 typo mistake in their life?).Big deal. Even after THREE posts from me saying i never got PC Cocoron,and i never claimed to have it, they assumed i was the person under the pcedaisakusen account. They were wrong,once again.
Of course my bro deleted it once i told him that was listed on that site, he corrected it. He ticked those boxes YEARS AGO,and never went back on the website. Big deal,once again.

By the comments they were saying on 2 pages about Thibaut, they REALLY didn't need anything to be "upset". Their nature expressed herself on the first 2 pages,from the beginning.
Their hatred towards him was pretty clear,everybody could see that.
I just said outloud what other were thinking. There's no need to take gloves with that kind of guys. Waste of time. Racist comments made that even more obvious.

anyway,we're off topic,i'll answer you with pleasure by PM ;-)

 

That's o.k. It isn't that I don't believe you or anything like that. I just thought that was the reason why the thread ended up like it did is all.

 

I bid on it, but in the final 2 hours the price shot up from 7000 yen to what it is now.

Don't they always?

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a hoarder in my opinion. If a person buys something they should be free to do with it whatever they please. If they want to keep it for themselves that's fine they want to release it for free or for a price that's fine too. I'd be willing to donate if the item interested me.

The way I always view it is how would you like it if you bought a brand new 50" LCD and you wanted to sit down and watch all the star wars movies on blu-ray, but everyone comes up and says they want to watch season one of dharma and greg. You can watch Dharma and Greg which will be sad considering how much you paid for this new tv, maybe your friends will be nice though and pitch in money to buy pizza and drinks though. Of course though it is your tv and you can slam the door kick back and enjoy star wars!

 

I got to about page 2 of the jealousy thread over there. I stopped when Thibaut suggested the guy bitching about no ISO's coming from Thibaut said, "he probably doesn't have that kind of money". Pure hilarity!

 

They wouldn't accept such answer. For them it is your ABSOLUTE DUTY to share your properties. Otherwise,you'rte just a selfish scrooge,and a hoarder. You enjoy more the fact that they DO NOT have it,that the fact you bought and own the item. How sick is that!
That was especially ridiculous in Thibaut's case because he won the game against NO ONE.That's right, NOBODY bid on it except him. If so,what is their interest in it?there was no bid/price war here.
Oh yeah: they want it for free. You're the stupid goat to spend $1600 in it,and give it to the world. Otherwise,you're just a selfish scrooge.

I answered them by asking if they share instantly their sandwich once they just bought it the first step they make in the street, because THAT is sharing

Too,their argument was "what's the difference?The money is spent and it ain't coming back".
I then asked the guy saying this to lend me his house&car immediately,since "the money is spent and it ain't coming back". After that,i just got insults, because i dared comparing a CDR & a car (when in fact,i was just comparing properties).

 

Basically, those who want the game for free asre a bunch of pricks. Simple as that. Fuck'em all :nod: Thibaut went for it and won. Good for him. He can do as he pleases with it.

Yakumo

 

That whole argument got way way out of control and it should have been stopped along time before it did.

There were insults, racist comments and alot of lies and half truths. Some of the stuff that was said was well over the line and the ban-hammer should have definitely come into force (but we know it won't).

People are too opinionated in my eyes. Have your say and then leave it alone. Who cares what 'Random Joe' in America thinks of you buying an unreleased game and leaving it that way. You spent your money fair and square and it is now your property to do with as you please.

I wouldn't release something for free that I paid $1600 for yet on the other hand if I had stumbled across it for $10 on Ebay I would release it instantly.

Its a never ending argument but that's my 2p anyway.

 

That's exactly what we did for Space Fantasy Zone release,years ago.
We donated ($50 up to $150 each) for getting it,from Geroge Palamara's japanese contact.
The wish of that seller was to NOT release it.We respected that wish.
But one of the donators decided to try to sell it on Yahoo (it was a crappy CDR,there was no work/effort involved like the ones you can see now on Yahoo,with insert,cover,instructions,etc),and of course it sold for something like 150000Y!
so we decided to release it for free,in order to "block" that betrayer to get even more money from this.
Consequence:the japanese seller,who probably felt betrayed,cut off all communications.We wouldn't get anything anymore from him.

But this guy on pcefx forums (sinistron) considers him a "hero",because he could access SFZ, thanks to him (when in fact,it's thanks to us).
He holds the donators responsible for "not sharing",not the fact that the japanese seller ask EXPRESSELY to not release it.
It seems he didn't realize that because of this,we won't get anymore proto/sample for this valuable source (for money,yes,but still).
He/we shot a bullet on his/our own feet.


Anyway,once reported to admin,the topic locked,and he was sorry for us going through this mess.

 

Thank you Yakumo for your support.

 

I think they're a bunch of wankers! It's yours, and therefore your right to do whatever the hell you want with it:thumbsup:

 

日本版MULTI-MEGA　LINGUAPHONE EDUCATION GEAR:
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h131987508

 

I bid on it,but it is too rich for my actual blood ^^
Last one went for 200000Y+, so that's a bargain right now.

 

That really puts you off talking about anything, anywhere, whatever you do, you get criticized so yeah stuff the pricks!!!

Thibault and Adol always shared a max of information with the PCE community and they should get a bit of respect and credit for that, not flaming... I remember once on an another forum Thibault got a bullocking for putting watermarks on a magazine scan he did... how insane is that? The poor guy probably spent a fair amount of cash and time to do that scan properly.

There is something fundamentally wrong with this idea of "the community should get this or that for free" who do they think they are to decide?

Here is a little something for all of our vulture friends, that's free and rare BTW:

 

I did the same for my first pics (4-5 years ago) of my fullsets. (Megadrive,Dreamcast,PC Engine,etc)
I got flamed/mocked by Segakore forums owner/admin because of that watermarking, because it was too big,or too blue,or whatever.
The guy didn't even enjoy the fact that it was the first time on Internet you could see such Sega japanese fullset all at once, but no, he was focalized on the watermark, and asked me to remove it (even if i put in the first palce because there was fake auctions using my pics for scamming people, but i guess it didn't bother)
I guess every forum has that kind of jealous/haters, making such irrelevant comments,trying to exist that way.
Even there,1 come to my mind immediately ^^