3DS being dumped locally for $129

The Gamecube was, itself, more successful than the N64

I say "itself" cause the N64 would have collapsed if it werent for the pokemon craze

Pokemon saved the N64 and gameboy, n64 proved to be too expensive with 64MB carts costing more than the hardware, and the gameboy was at the end of its life

The Gamecube on the other hand hold its possition without groundbreaking nintendo games: sunshine wasnt at all as epic as Mario64 was, and Zelda WW while awesome was hated by fanboys.

It did get a lot of awesome 3rd partie games which kept it going for years, and it ended a close 3rd to the xbox, without burning a hole in nintendo's wallet

And still nintendo had the GBA which was for 4 years the only portable console in the market, so it sold like crazy despite the shit hardware and even shittier shovelware (except for rare ocassions)

But right now the Wii is going down, the 3DS an overpriced disaster with an addon, theres no pokemon, all 3rd partie support is going to other consoles, the PSV and android/iOS, and NOBODY is waiting for the joke that is the WiiU

So nintendo better gets its shit together, or prepare for the worst: its "Sega moment"...

 

I'd always thought of the XBox as Microsoft's way of establishing a bridge-head, so to speak. IMO they never expected it to out-perform the competition. It was a way of entering the marketing, testing the waters and gaining valuable experience.

Sadly, very few people I know even remember the Gamecube it seems that was Nintendo's lost generation.

 

Did Nintendo lose the last of the little 3rd party support it had after the N64 and the retarded decision to stick with cartridges?
Yes.
Did another decision to use a different format than the competition eventually sink the GC?
Yes.

Of course, the GC wasn't an outright failure, but it definitely wasn't a success either. Let's face it, if it wasn't for the amount of money Nintendo was making from the handheld market, they would've been forced to pull a Sega. The Wii wouldn't have existed either if the GC had been a success, since Nintendo wouldn't have had to reinvent their next generation console due to not being able to compete on a level playing field.

 

That's exactly what it was. And that's partly why we saw the 360 debut so quickly in 2005.
For all intents and purposes, the 360 is really Microsoft's first 'true' attempt at going into the gaming console segment. The original Xbox debuted in a climate where the lackluster PS2 already had a huge headstart, plus the GC was scheduled to launch around the same time. Thus, Microsoft really didn't have the time to do things the way they really planned to -- time was a luxury they didn't have in order to make inroads in the market.

 

Right, you can also tell that from the console design. The first XBOX was 99% PC, the xbox360 was a real console.

 

The 3DS in Australia is still being sold for $250 sometimes $240. It must be selling well here maybe..

Besides, the titles that have come out recently is THE reason why I bought a 3DS. Mario Kart 7 looks fantastic and so does Super Mario Land 3D (or what ever it's called). Whether or not the 3DS is classed successful or not, a game with Mario in the title will always sell.

Nintendo platform is nearly the ONLY system that has games for people under 13 can really understand the gameplay right. I haven't seen many other publishers or development studios making games for that age group. This is were most of the Nintendo systems sell. The Wii sold mainly because it's a good average family console. It doesn't really appeal to hardcore gamers like many of us here.

I'll continue to support Nintendo away, I was beginning to hate them this generation, but the 3DS to me looks like it has a lot of potential.

 

Well I still didn't buy a 3DS even though they were offering the 50$ gift card, had sent me a 10$ certificate in the mail, and were doing some buy 2 games get 1 free promo. It was tempting to buy the 3DS, but given the talk about redesigns and this 2nd analog nub I figure it is better to wait.

 

I'm sorry, Nintendo isn't Sony. They don't need third party support. Nintendo machines sell because of Nintendo games. And the Gamecube wasn't a success? It sold over 20 million units worldwide. It had several games that sold over 5 million copies. What the hell do you call a success?

Also, third parties were still supporting the Gamecube into 2007 (Madden 2008 was the last U.S. game on the system). And Nintendo put out a Gamecube game right after the Wii launched (Twilight Princess).

It was a successful system. Nintendo made money off of it, Nintendo did not go out of the console business as a result of it, software was coming out on it right up to the new system's release, and it sold over 20 million units. I'm not sure in what fantasy world that would be considered unsuccessful.

 

I just got a 3DS and I'm loving it. I can't wait to play OoT on it, I have to wait until Christmas to get that. :crying: I've downloaded some games for it and for the past 3 days I've been playing it in my free time, when I should be doing other things.

=hugh

 

I think the people who are saying it was unsuccessful are basing that on the fact that it didn't do as well as either the PS2 or the Xbox. That's a ridiculous standard to set, though. Pepsi never sells as much as Coke, but no one would call Pepsi "unsuccessful". They still make an obscene amount of money.

 

I'll tell you what though, I loved my GameCube a hell of a lot more than my Xbox, especially in the games department (as the Xbox had quite a limited quantity of good games). Although I am getting a bit more use out of the Xbox now by using it as a media centre.

 

N64 = 30 million units
GC = 20 million units

I'm sensing a pattern here... Nintendo needs third party support just like everyone else, first party games may be able to keep a Nintendo system alive, but without third party support they are no match for MS and Sony. And the truth is that Nintendo franchises are not the mega sellers they once were compared to the sales figures of games like CoD, Halo, Gran Turismo etc.

If you call a handful of sports games per year supporting the GC, then sure...most third parties had dropped it like a hot turd years before that.

 

You need to check your assertions before posting.

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

I know the source isn't great, but it's good enough to show that Nintendo franchises clearly are the mega sellers they once were.



People have been throwing around the 'Nintendo is doomed' line for about 15 years now.

This chart says it all:

 

Are you high? The Gamecube had more third party support than the N64.

Again, are you high? Entire franchises owned by Sony or Microsoft can't even scrape the sales numbers of either New Super Mario Bros. game or Mario Kart DS.

Ratatouille and TMNT weren't sports games. :thumbsup:



Also, as far as this thread goes. The 3DS is approaching 3 million sold in Japan. Before SM3DL and Mario Kart the 3DS had passed the original DS at 2.37 million sold in 8 months in the US.

Yeah, pretty sure the 3DS is doing OK.

 

Maybe at the beginning, but most of those companies abandoned the GC: just look at Capcom saying there were gonna be 5 exclusive GC games, then out of those 5 one was cancelled, one stayed exclusive because it was crap, and the other 3 were ported to PS2 because Capcom realized they'd sell a hell of lot better that way.

Yeah, but that's just first party games by Sony and MS, they also have massive third party franchises that Nintendo just doesn't. The sales of Mario Kart DS aren't relevant to Nintendo's non-handheld systems.

OK, a handful of sports games and movie license games then...the stuff that always gets crapped out even for dead consoles that weren't complete flops.

 

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/retail-reports-3ds-sell-outs/088187

3DS is selling out in the UK! More proof that it's not going to fail.

 

Your entire argument is based on what one developer did? :clap:

Mario Kart Wii sold almost 30 million units.

Dreamcast and Sega Saturn say hello (in the U.S.).

 

Tried the new Mario game this evening at Target.
Seems interesting enough...not quite a system seller for me just yet, but it had a good look/feel/atmosphere to it.

 

VGCHartz is not a credible source for anything

 

I bought Super Mario 3D Land the other day. I haven't had much time to play it yet due to papers and such, but I really enjoy what I've played so far. It starts out pretty easy, but from what I've heard it gets more difficult later on.