Best SNES revision

I have no Idea, but there are plenty of smart folks around here so maybe someone knows.

 

Maybe a bit of a sidetrack, but didn't want to open a new topic. For my curiosity, what exactly do pin 24 of PPU1 and pin 30 of PPU2 (required for the 50/60hz mod) do? Any pinout of the chips available somewhere?

 

I finally hunted down a 1chip Super Famicom! It has a 1chip-02 board with serial #25090528 and SVHC-JPN-1 sticker. The serial is lower than the other 1chip-02 units from the spreadsheet, so this one may be a useful entry if that document is still getting updated.

RGB modded SNES minis are nice, but nothing beats the awesome looking design of the original Super Famicom .

 

It turns out that the NTSC-U SNES I've been using that I got back for $15 a while ago is a 1chip-01 board! It has serial #UN312238993. I'm pretty happy with it even through RGB->YUV->CRT

 

Is the SNES serial document still being updated? If so, I might have an interesting entry.

After borrowing my friends SNES for a while, I decided that I needed one in my life. After doing 'my homework', I wanted to find a 1chip version. So I took a look at the doc with the serial numbers and figured I could better start searching. I started looking for non-yellowed consoles online, as they tend to be the newer versions. The first guy that I contacted, who lived just a couple of km's away from me, gave me this serial number: UP18215433. This is the highest serial to date for PAL consoles. Naturally, I had to buy it.

So I've picked it up about a week ago, and it's great! Perfectly clear image using my GC RGB cable, which was a surprise, I tried using it on my friends SNES (old model) and it gave a darkened picture.
Also, rather interestingly, there is no vertical stripe! I have tried and tried, but I can't see it. The game I used was Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World. I tried turning the brightness of my tv all the way up (or down), but there was no vertical banding whatsoever. After reading this thread, I started thinking. Could this possibly be a 1chip-03? Apparently nobody has ever found a PAL 03 board, I don't even know if they were ever released in Europe.

Next thing on my list: opening up my console. I can't do that yet because I don't have the security bits. It really was becoming inevitable, so I went ahead and ordered some. When they have arrived, I will open up my console and check what board it is. I will post my findings here.

 

I think the database hasn't been updated in ages, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvE57-VbN9_HdEpkUUR0U1hzMHFWVWw3VXhORHFIanc&output=html might be more up-to-date (but hasn´t received an update in ages as well). Would be nice if there was a wiki, like http://nintendo64.wikia.com/wiki/Console_Serial_Number_Guide
I have a UP18193286, which is a SNSP-CPU-1CHIP-02. I don't think there's a PAL 1CHIP-03, but who knows for sure?

 

After doing some research, I thought it best to join this forum after reading this thread. In my opinion, I think this thread should be titled "Best SNES revision FOR VIDEO QUALITY ONLY" instead.

Why?

Because, according to the following thread, the best "overall" SNES is the SHVC-CPU-01.

Here - http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=46303

Very interesting......

 

so after 7 pages of testing and discussing you come to the conslusion that the 1-chip snes isn't better?
strange days

 

Depends on what you want.

If you want accuracy, then the original console is for you.

If all your after is sharpness, and don't mind glitches, ghosting, overdriven whites, then the 1CHIP/Mini is for you.

Just saying.....

BY THE WAY,

The first post on this thread needs serious updating as its got some misinformation. Why? Because the 1CHIP has the exact same problems (glitches in certain games for example) as the Mini. They are both the same in terms of CPU/PPU, APU, RAM, etc. All is documented in this guy's post - http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=46303

 

fix for the famous Vertical Bar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVn9sRoV-g

 

I have a 1CHIP-03 SFC, serial S25244725, got lucky I guess. Bought boxed & unused late last year for £120, didn't even know about the revisions before I bought it. Had longed for a SFC for years after foolishly selling my SNES as a kid. Very interested in Byuu's point about it effectively being a clone system, hadn't considered that. For what it's worth the picture quality is fantastic, bearing in mind I'm comparing it to my memories of a PAL SNES on a sh*t TV in the early 90s! I've tried it on some decent CRTs with a very nice RGB cable. No vertical band but I have noticed some ghosting in SMW. Will have to check out these other potentially glitchy games mentioned above as I have an SD2SNES. Loving the golden age once more, a bit overwhelmed with what I want to play, don't have the time sadly. To be greedy, I'd also like an original revision as the 1CHIP weighs nowt, ha!

Just had a thought, I've noticed white dots in the intro to Earthbound (1CHIP-03)

 

I seem to have some glitches with my 1-chip 03 too. I ought to try it with earthbound and see.

 

To get a definite statement on this, is it true that the SHVC-CPU-01 doesn't show the vertical line at all? I have a SNS-CPU-RGB-02 and don't mind the blurriness as much, but that line does make me consider getting another SFC. CPU-01s are probably more common than 1CHIPs and easy to spot by those four rubber feet, and if the sound is better than any other revision that's a huge plus too.

 

Not true on my hand, where did you read that?
It has the bar but it is fainter than on some other models, however it seems to resist the capacitor trick.
For instance a stock GPM-02 has stronger bar than SHVC-CPU-01.
But if you add the caps to them, the GPM shows very good improvements while the SHVC don't.

 

I've seen that rumor pop up many times, here on retrorgb http://retrorgb.com/snesverticalline.html as an example.

 

All I read on this page is that the bar on 1chips is near invisible, which as far as I can tell is true. Where do they talk about the early SHVC model?

 

SHVC-CPU-01 is (C) 1990, while the next model (AFAIK), SNS-CPU-GPM-01 is (C) 1992. So I guess you can assume the former is meant here.

 

Ah, but they are talking about Japanese SFC, not SNES. I know nothing about SFC, do they use the same motherboard numbers?
Also, I just noticed that you are talking about SFC in your earlier. Sorry about that.
The bottom line is I do not know, might be true they do not have the bar.

 

Yeah, same numbers. That's why I too thought it was weird that only Japanese consoles were mentioned. Maybe someone else here knows about this...

 

I looked at picture of SNES vs SFC SHVC motherboards and one thing I notice is the RF adapter block is different and much smaller on the SFC. Might be a clue.