EBay scammer and Assemblergames member BEWARE!

Post his personal details and you will be banned. You know the rules.

We're not a vigilante mob with pitchforks, and we don't encourage such behaviour. There are steps you may be able to take... but you really should have contacted eBay and/or PayPal sooner.

On that matter, I have warned those who chose to take mob mentality and post on his profile. DO NOT HARASS OTHER MEMBERS.

As Hex1gon quite rightly pointed out, this is beyond our remit for assisting as it happened externally. We have given you advice on how to contact eBay and/or PayPal, but you continue to try and gather a vigilante group. However, in the interest of keeping peace amongst the community, I have reached out to @Gooner692 and urged him to reply. If we choose to restrict a member's access due to a proven track record of scamming externally from the site, that is a staff decision. We've listened and will come to a decision on what course of action we will take, if any. We have requested that he respond and you can't really ask any more from the site as it was an external transaction. Call eBay, even if you have to call eBay UK - likewise with PayPal. Don't just say "but I sent them a message!" - CALL THEM. Or, at the very least, live chat. You need proof that the item was delivered.

You still haven't confirmed what the tracking says now, which I requested. I would say his logging in yesterday and not responding to this speaks volumes. However, I did point out that you've painted an incomplete story - where is the parcel now, according to the tracking?

Wrong.

https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll/overview

 

This is very unfortunate. You took too long to post the tracking info and the buyer took advantage of that and filed a item not received claim. I've heard of this happening before, too, unfortunately. Once a claim has been escalated and you've lost, eBay won't do anything to reverse the decision. I've been screwed on eBay before, too, and I came back with evidence and phoned them back and forth... they wouldn't do shit about it—some guy from India told me tough luck. World class customer service.


Letting everyone know to look out for this guy is probably the best thing you could do...

 

I would have called trillion times by now (even expensive US numbers).
Imo if op has tracking then it's a simple win after contacting paypal / ebay by phone.

 

Well guys and Girls,

Thank god I am not a scammer!!!.

I am not scamming the guy just giving him the silent treatment like he did for me for 3-4 weeks.

I genuinely thought I was getting scammed myself!!. When you buy something on ebay you expect the seller to communicate correctly. Every time I emailed asking for tracking info or when the game may be arriving I heard nothing back! (most frustrating).

If there were delays (like he claims) why not just inform me??. Why did he not notify me or ebay that he was going away for 3-4 weeks??. I have sent items to Greece before and it does not take 4 weeks!!.

I had sent countless messages in the 4 weeks and heard nothing so left negative feedback and opened a case (like most other would have done and I was advised by ebay to do this). After I had opened the case as if by magic he started responding to me (suprise suprise). But the case was already closed and finished.

Now as everybody knows me on this site and my ebay feedback being 100% over 6 years that I am not a scammer. This guy wants his money or game back, which I am more than willing to send back (at his expense) and call this a big misunderstanding and move on.

Bottom line he was in my opinion in the wrong. But I am more than happy to give him his game back.

I am a collector who has been collecting for years. I am also a respectful and friendly chap. I have been scammed a fair few times myself, so I did everything by the book and how ebay advised me. Yes I am not perfect but it was a difficult situation that was no fault of my own.

I was very very frustrated by how this seller in question did not respond to me which led me to believe I was being scammed myself.

I hope you can understand how I felt and be reassured I am a decent honest collector.

I would also appreciate people not just jumping aboard the bandwagon going on witch hunts when they do not know the full story.

Please feel free to leave comments or constructive criticism.

moboros as this has now gone far enough please contact me when you are ready and we can work this out like adults.

Joe

 

If you prove your case and ebay refuses to reverse the claim and return money that's rightfully and lawfully yours I would have threatened to hire an attorney and take legal action,
Ebay doesn't have the best record in the courts so a legal threat might scare them enough especially if you know what you're talking about.

@Gooner692 It's understandable that you're angry that you didn't hear from the seller but there's a few things that need to be pointed out and need to be taken into consideration.

1. Filing an item not received claim after only 1.5 weeks is way too early, we never know what goes on in someone's personal life so it's common courtesy to wait 2.5-3 weeks at the very least before taking any kind of action to give them a chance to take care of what they need to and ship your item (you have a 45 day window from the time you pay to receive your item or file your claim so would a little delay really hurt that much?).

2. Escalating the claim AFTER receiving the tracking number is a big no-no and is where a majority of the controversy in this comes from, he was a little late getting you the info nobody denies or debates that, but in the end he did uphold his end of the deal within the timeframe allotted, ergo once he sent the info you should have closed the case and once you received the item just leave neutral feedback, by escalating the claim you not only took his item but also his money (money which became legally his once you received your item) and the solution to all this is pretty simple, return the money since you have the item and everything will be balanced out.

 

I am not scared at all about any of this. Its just a really frustrating position to be in if you were in my shoes.

It is also interesting to see what would or could actually happen.

1) The claim was not made until 3 weeks. Very true people do have issues in their life and I respect that. If they had sent the item before they went away, surely they would of mentioned (and sent the tracking number) it before they claimed to have gone away just in case there was any issues.

2) I would never escalate a claim after receiving a tracking number. I had already escalated it before I had received any tracking info and if I had been given a tracking number ebay wouldn't of allowed me to escalate it surely?? . End of the day this is all his fault, I was instructed by ebay all the way through this (which seemed to me the best way).

I have already stated that I am willing to work this out with the guy. I just want to send the item back and forget about all of this as its wasting far to much of my time.

This one was sealed and bought a long time before any of this current issue had gone on. The Ocean Commander this debate is all about is not a sealed game.

Banned on PSC, dont think so. I do not like the site layout to be honest. I have already proved that certain individuals there also have ebay accounts and sell games for higher than myself. Its ok for some but not others.

Im just waiting for the guy to contact me now guys and I will sort it out.

 

Gooner

That point wasn't actually aimed at you gooner that was meant for awesomeNES hence why I addressed you separately sorry if I caused any confusion.

 

Im just a bit upset that I am getting slated massively for nothing really. I have said I am more than happy to return his game (at his expense).

My reputation as a seller has been damaged big scale now, just because this guy couldn't be bothered to contact me and send tracking info.

I am a respectful and friendly seller/buyer with 100% positive feedback on ebay and many friends in the retro community. I have a fairly decent collection and am always willing to help everybody out. I hope everybody does not think anything else of me and if people are in the Bournemouth area please let me know and I can show you around all of the local retro gaming shops and go for a beer.

What I would like to say also, is that there are a lot of jealous collectors out there who actively go out to ruin my reputation (this case is a one off that will be sorted today). If I am as bad as everybody makes out, why have I got 100% on ebay?.

 

1stly i am not "this guy", if you thought i have wronged you you could have said so, but guess what?? You didn't. It is your fault your "reputation" got ruined, not mine. You opted to stay silent and ignore me forcing me to "deal with ebay" as you clearly state in your ebay messages. 2ndly your "tracking number first- ebay claim second" strategy was a bad decision. Even if you claim you are not a scammer this made you sure look like one.
3rdly you caouldn't have expected me to stay silent after what you did. I needed my money back.a nd by forcing me to solve an unsolvable, lost case with ebay I HAD to take it outside.

You were not the victim!!! You had the upper hand from the beginning! Ebay and paypal would help you, the buyer, not me, the seller.
Lastly if you wanna talk about destroyed reputation ask me. I have 96.5% positive feedback because of your ONE negative, where i was a 100% positive seller for 6 years.

 

Your communication was quite honestly awful!. If you had given me a tracking number from the start none of this would of happened!. I did everything correctly, paid instantly.

I think you went on holiday and forgot to post the game and then posted when you got back. That is why you gave me the tracking info nearly 4 weeks after you sold the item to me. I had sent you numerous messages throughout the 4 weeks asking where it was and eventually that I will be leaving negative feedback if you do not contact me.

Anyway enough of blaming each other as its already happened. I am willing to send the game back to. (you will need to pay for the return postage). I will speak to ebay and see if they will remove the feedback.

 

You will ship it tracked as i did and i will cover postage as soon as i receive it. Thank you. I think you already have my address from the envelope/ebay.

 

Yes I will get you a quote from post office. PM sent (need your address)

 

Fair enough, you are right on that, plenty of shoddy characters there, and it does seem you are not banned there, my mistake, so here's an apology from me.

Last time I filed a ebay complain after I didn't recieve a game I waited 35 days. Talked to seller and explained everything, made the claim and got the money. Ten days later the game arrived. I paid the seller back through paypal gift - I left with a neutral feedback with "Item lost in mail, will pay back if it arrives well". I don't get this "just cause ebay allows me", I don't know how people live with their conscience by doing this and still think it's ok. It's not ok, someone is left with ebay debt. What if he needed money to pay bills or was in a tight spot???

 

Thanks for the apology. its a shame people jump on a bandwagon abusing someone when they do not know the full story.

I could never steal from another person. That just isn't me.

The worry I had to go through at potentially loosing £100 or having to go through the annoying ebay process of getting money back was soo frustrating for me. Especially when the seller was not responding to anything for 4 weeks.

I was happy to wait for the seller but he just didnt get back to me. As this has gone to far now I have told the seller I will send the game back to him no problems at all. Not because he has branded my name everywhere for being a scammer but because I know deep down I couldn't steal from somebody!.

 

This dispute reminds me of this quote:

「寧我負人，毋人負我！」
"I'd rather betray others, than have others betray me."
After Cao Cao falsely kills Lü Boshe for trying to slaughter a pig for a meal (thinking the pig was him).

Probably enough misunderstandings to go around the table for everyone.

 

100% feedback doesn't mean much, as sellers can't leave negative feedback anymore.

Also, you can file a paypal dispute within 180 days now, not 45.

 

I have merged several posts in this thread. Please refrain from double posting - use the edit button. If you're replying to multiple people, just hit reply next to each one and it'll post into the thread. I'll do it now...

Thanks for replying and agreeing to send the item back.

We appreciate it's frustrating to have poor communication from a seller, but two wrongs don't make a right and silence could be used against you - for example, you logged in this week and didn't reply to the thread. I'm sure you can understand people will jump to the conclusion that you have something to hide from that. Best to just resolve the situation immediately and move on, really.

As I have said frequently in this thread, your "evidence" against him actually illustrated that you had not sent the tracking number (eBay I believe provide a place for you to do this now and you should do it once given to the shipping company), you blamed a national holiday for the delay in postage (despite not having given tracking details), then blamed your own holiday for the delay in providing details, told him you'd be back in 3 days... then 3 days later you told him you'll give him the details when you're back! Two days later, you STILL hadn't returned and he opened a case.

I appreciate that it is frustrating to have a case against you, but it seems (from your own evidence) that you were somewhat to blame for that due to poor communication.

In future, I would appreciate it if you don't repeatedly ignore a member of staff. If we ask you what the tracking says, please reply. There are always two sides to a story, and I'm afraid neither of you were completely the innocent party.

Now, please stop using our forum to have your silly little squabble. He's replied, he's sending the game back. Let us know when that's happened and it'll be laid to rest. Having little jibes at each other isn't going to achieve anything... personally, I wouldn't want to piss someone off who agreed to resolve the matter by sending my game back.

Likewise @Gooner692 - if @MoBoRoS doesn't reimburse you for shipping as requested, let us know.

But an eBay claim has to be made within 30 days still, no? In fact, their FAQ claims that's the same time for PayPal! :\ Sort your shit out, eBay!

 

Cheers guys for resolving!. I honestly didn't notice anything before on here about it as I sorted it instantly I knew my name was being put out there in a bad way.

Please everybody rest assured I am a good honest friendly member. If anyone wants any chats about megadrive or PlayStation please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thanks Joe

 

I am just waiting for the guy to pay me for the tracked postage and then I will send it back to him.

 

So, if i understand correctly, you are saying you won't send back the item even though you did what you did and you want me to trust you with 10 more pounds even though my ebay balance is now -150$.

I want you to ship the item first, send me proof of tracking and then you will have 10£ in your paypal.
This is the fair thing this should play out