EBay scammer and Assemblergames member BEWARE!

Wait until you receive the item. Then assembler games can remove this thread.

 

You keep asking for something, then wanting more. You want the game back. He offers it if you'll pay shipping and you whine. He then relents... now you want the feedback changed.

In the first place, you were the one who went on holiday without giving tracking info, then failed to give it on the promised date.

Yeah, like YOU.

Why do you think he responded? It's because I took hours out of my day to PM him and get this resolved. I didn't have to do that - it's an off-site matter.

My weekend, by the way, involved a 150 mile round trip to London on Saturday to shoot a festival with 200 bands and review as many as possible. I left my house at 8:30am and got home at 2:30am the following morning. I then barely slept, because my deadline for reviews of 20 bands was the end of the day. I had them finished by 6:45pm, when I left to shoot The Proclaimers. I forgot to eat before I left, I was that busy. I then got home and had to upload the pictures. Again, I managed to get a bit of sleep. On Monday, I then had to sort through 1,000 photographs and edit whichever I was going to send for my deadline. I then had to edit pictures and write a review for The Proclaimers.

Despite this, I complied with your request, as co-admin, and PMed Gooner. I note that the timestamp is yesterday at 5:15am. I've spent hours on this between reading your post, posting on here, looking up Gooner to see if he's a known scammer, discussing the matter with staff, PMing Gooner and dealing with the shit storm you created by trying to get a mob together from our community to attack someone.

All of the above is done as necessary stuff in spite of my health issues, which have me sitting here barely able to lift my arms I am so exhausted.

And yet you can't be bothered to reply to my messages.

In future, please don't bother coming to ASSEMblergames for sympathy. I will not be wasting my time helping you again.

By the way, as I said, neither of you acted like a saint through all of this. I hope you both learn from the experience. I'm still confused as to how much time elapsed between paying for the game and submitting a claim (if you want to elaborate, go ahead) - you need to leave a reasonable amount of time, but the seller needs to communicate, especially tracking numbers.

What helps moving forward is how you deal with things. Gooner has acted calmly and agreed to return your item. You continue to scream at him. I understand you BOTH were upset and worried by the ordeal, but you are both to blame..... and one of you comes out as trying to resolve the matter, whilst the other tries to gather an angry mob with pitchforks and continues the attack when a resolution is attempted. Who do you think comes out looking best?

 

In summary, he's more upset about the little negative on his eBay profile rather than the money it seems.

I've had people leave negatives saying "good seller". People READ feedback not just look at a score rating. It's BS anyway, just like the amount of likes a comment gets on YouTube.

 

If you believe you have been scammed would you leave bad feedback?.

 

Retro, all i can say is thank you. I am not as frustrated and demanding as you think i am though. Thank you for your time, thank you for contacting gooner and thank you for being patient.
I did not beg anyone to help me harass gooner nor did i gather a mob. I asked politely and you can see it from my thread responses. I took an ebay issue here firstly to talk about what happened to me since gooner was an assemblers member and secondly to warn others.
This is also the reason why offtopic section exists. This is clearly an offtopic matter, so why should you bring up the fact that it was non forum related even though i put it in the offtopic section?

 

I did it to help two community members sort an issue and move forward. Your gratitude is of course appreciated. However, if a member of staff says something to you in future, please reply.

In fairness, I note that I missed the fact that you'd mentioned it had been delivered in the first post, so I apologize for that. However, I still made several comments and each was ignored.

Hrrmm...

You asked people to spam his wall. That's gathering a mob. WE DON'T DO THAT HERE. It's in the rules:

Whilst I appreciate that you didn't start the doxxing suggestion, you didn't stop it - in fact, you put it on the back burner as a last resort if things don't go your way:

What you should have said is you respect the rules and that is not allowed... not that you don't want to do it yet. That implies you were thinking about it.

Because you are coming here asking us to help you! I am not disputing that you posted in the wrong forum, but you asked for help.

We don't get paid to run the forum. We're dealing with spammers, rule-breakers and such when we're on site... and maybe reading, enjoying and interacting with threads if we have time! If you'd bought something here, we would of course do all we could to assist. Should we respond to every person who comes to the site saying they made a transaction elsewhere and had a bad experience?

We're really sorry that you've had a bad experience. We've all had them. Both buying and selling, most likely. Unless it's on the site, we can't necessarily spare the time to assist, or everyone would be coming here complaining.

I strongly advise (as I did before) you always ship with tracking and insurance for high-value items. Take a photograph of the tracking information at the post office on your phone - better still, use an online carrier where appropriate. That way, should you forget to send the information (which you should do straight away), it'll be on your phone as a photo, or you can check your e-mail if you used another carrier. That's my advice to you - learn from the experience. You didn't come off too badly this time, but you were somewhat to blame in not being more prepared for the buyer being impatient and chasing the parcel. You should always have that information to hand when you post something. I even do it if I'm posting a bag of goodies to a friend - you can bet in a few weeks when it doesn't turn up, I'll have lost the tracking info needed to make a claim... oh wait no, it's stored in my phone

 

I will definately learn from my mistakes. We are all humans though. We all have families and lives that mix up with our responsibilities sometimes.
I thoroughly explained to the buyer via ebay messages that I was on an island in the ionian sea on holiday and i stated i couldn't communicate as easily as when i was in the city. I also explicitly told him that it was my mistake for forgetting my receipt at home. As i already told you though, retro, the buyer was not forgiving at all. This was the reason i took the issue here. Because i knew some kind people, like you, would want to spare some of their precious time to correct some mistakes that had been made from both sides.
Keeping a game and the money though was not my fault. Bad communication was my fault. I did not try to take advantage of ebay's mechanics to screw anyone.
You make me come out as the bad guy here even though i was the one that almost lost 150 dollars.
If you think that suggesting to spam=harassing the guy ok then i may have mistakenly and unwillingly done that. But i never odered anyone to bully him or screw with him in any way.
Also i wouldn't endorse doxxing under any circumstances but openly stating that doxxing is a last resort option isn't doxxing so why even go this far,retro, as to say that i considered doxxing him. Why do you care so much about what i considered as a last resort if i didn't do it in your forums.
Lastly i would like to say that you seem to be biased against me.
So much quoting, so many pieces of advice, so many thoughts about what i consider, about why and if it was good that i asked for the forum members help and not even 1 or 2 words about what really matters.

I always answer your quotes and messages. The last message you left me was in 2014 and i was inactive since 2013 (in June 2016 i started collecting again).

 

I also did not go out of my way to screw the guy. The case was closed by the time I had tracking info (I was already refunded). I was unforgiving because I was very annoyed and never expected to receive the game. Like I said I would of at no point kept the game and his money because that is not the person that I am. I have built up trust and good friendships being friendly and honest.

The only thing I did wrong was not email the guy back sooner stating I had received the item (its not nice being ignored).

I hope everyone realizes that this was not as one sided as the guy first made out. Two sides to every story.

Take care guys speak soon

 

Nop. The case was open. I provided tracking and you escalated the case and when i pmed you you said "talk to ebay". That's screwing in my book. But since you sent me the game back we can leave all that behind us. At least admit you wanted to avenge the lack of my communication and let's move on.

 

I generally wouldn't of escalated the case if I knew you had the tracking info. I escalated because I didn't believe at the time that you even had the game. Ebay informed me to get you to speak to them. When it arrived I honestly couldn't believe it. That was when I should of emailed you saying I had received it, but you already knew as I had signed for it. I was childishly doing what I believed you had done to me (that in my opinion was my only wrong doing).
But as you know the whole thing could of been avoided right from the beginning.
This is sorted now so I am not going to hold anything against you now and hopefully move on.

 

FOR GOODNESS SAKE!

Will the two of you just take your argument to the private messaging system and resolve this yourselves? Look at the two of you bickering like children publicly. Do you not have any respect for other people on this forum? I am so very ashamed to be a member of this forum.

I hope the pair of you get banned.

 

No, it isn't harassing him. It is asking others to harass him. Unacceptable.

Because you did. Perhaps there's a slight language barrier here - saying you don't want to do that YET is saying you might consider it in the future.

You POSTED it on our forums. I, therefore, reminded you that it will not be tolerated here.

Absolutely not. I've stated numerous times that you BOTH must take blame in this. I'm just saying that you have to take some responsibility for not giving the tracking number sooner. And that the evidence you gave suggests that you said you'd be back in 3 days... 3 days later, you said you'll give it when you get back (were you not back?) then 2 days later, he filed a claim - presumably because you STILL hadn't given him the tracking number. If you bought something and were promised a tracking number in 3 days time but had not received it 5 days later, wouldn't you be concerned?

I have remained impartial and looked at (and sympathized with) both sides.

Really? Please look through THIS thread again. In particular....

This post, and this post oh yeah this one too.

THREE POSTS in this thread that you ignored. And you wonder why I'm annoyed at you? Then you keep moaning at him. Then you keep questioning me.

Conversely, he replied to my PM, was apologetic and reasonable.

I'll close with this:

BOTH OF YOU are carrying on when the situation has been resolved. He was unreasonable! No, HE was unreasonable! I'll repeat that the case was closed. No, the case was open!

Guess what?

NOBODY CARES!

You both had a bad experience. You've managed to resolve it. Now move on and enjoy yourselves. Life's too short.

If I see any more going back over who was to blame, who started it etc. I'm just going to close the thread.