EEE pc - US price?

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  1. AntiPasta

    AntiPasta Fiery Member

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    Sounds like an ideal successor to my Jornada 720 - I haven't been able to find any other "small laptop" style PDA with a full, decent, keyboard affordably. This sounds good though! Though small, my 12" Toshiba Portege isn't that portable.

    How's the battery life on this thing?
     
  2. Tomcat

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    2.8 hours ish for the 8 gig.
     
  3. madhatter256

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    I forget, is the 8gig an SSD?
     
  4. oli_lar

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    Yeah it is.

    Good to hear a few positive opinions. Going to PC World and Currys this saturday to try one in person. Hope they've get 'em in stock/on display.

    Portability is my main want as I'm going to be using it in the library researching on the web or typing stuff up. Still want a few cheeky emulators on there though...
     
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    Funnily enough, i have the same reasons for purchase etc.. also to use as a diary and record of stuff etc. wonder if a portable handscanner could be connected too???
     
  6. Taemos

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    Mine will be seeing the university library a lot. If I get brave I might start recording lectures with it, but so far it doesn't seem like I'll need to do that.

    If I ever get a different CD player for my car (one with an auxilary input) then I could use it as my little FLAC machine :)
     
  7. oli_lar

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    For scanning books? I presume there are USB ones available...


    Good idea, then you can play them back while you sleep and learn by subliminal messaging!
     
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    Books, Documents, Secret Files etc... ;-)
     
  9. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

    RyanGamerGoneGrazy Clubbies Are Minis Too!

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    First things first...grab an external hdd and dvd drive (cheap, 70 bucks for a wd passport 160gb) and throw all your stuff on that.

    I even run most of my write intensive programs off that drive, and keep the Eee's internal ssd drive clean.

    What I'm really interested in doing now, is seeing if i can use the external drive to hold and boot eeexubuntu off of it without touching the ssd whatsoever


    Ryan
     
  10. Taemos

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    I'm pretty sure you can boot an alternate operating system off of whatever flash device you may be using - I was looking at SDHC cards myself.

    Edit: After thinking about it, I'm wondering if you can use an external drive as a "dual boot" of sorts. My ideal setup would be to install Windows XP on my external hard drive so if I turned the Eee PC on with it plugged in, it would boot to XP. Otherwise, I could have it boot to eeeXubuntu and plug in the hard drive after the OS has initialized and use it as a storage device, since I recall someone saying that Linux has no problem reading NTFS partitions that are larger than themselves (and my 120 gig external drive would be quite a bit bigger than a 4GB SDHC card ;)).

    Out of curiousity, how long is the SSD supposed to last? I was hoping to use it to hold eeeXubuntu and use my SDHC card/external hard drive to keep everything else on. I know they're supposed to last for so many hundreds of thousands of write cycles, but I'd like to know more in terms of years (and I'm aware that it depends on an infinite number of factors).

    My goal is to simply use the SSD for an operating system and offset most of the work onto the SDHC card. Maybe someone more Linux/hard drive knowledgable (looking at AntiPasta ;-)) would know.
     
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    On one of the boards its said to last 50 ish years of constant read write
    It was that or 26 cant remember now think it waq on the Mint site.
     
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  12. Taemos

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    So basically I shouldn't really worry about it dying in the computer's lifespan? This is great news, as I figured it'd be dead in a matter of 4-5 years (which is still past the point where I'd buy a new computer anyway).
     
  13. Tomcat

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    will dig it out to make sure..
     
  14. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

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    Don't worry bout it what so ever. As long as your not writing it 100% of the time it will last many years

    Thats what had me concerned, but after some good research, i found that under extreme conditions the drive will last 5 or so years...under normal usage it will last at least triple that.......

    As for dual booting, I installed XP to my EeePC as it was alot less hassle. People have had quite some headaches getting XP to boot off an external drive, and function correctly.....not impossible...just causes some headaches....

    One thing to do....is use the sdhc card as a swap file, and various other little things that windows writes to constantly. Right now, I've removed my swap file completley, and moved the TEMP folders and application data to the SDHC...for me, its just a bit of precausion....

    That's why I'm kinda interested in booting eeexubuntu, or linux mint off of an external drive....I'll need to ask around eeeuser.com

    Anyone here by chance try the modified graphics driver for XP? AutoCAD 2008 seems not to agree with it, nor does several odd games...

    In short....aside from the odd little thing...the EeePC won't dissapoint!

    Ryan
     
  15. Tomcat

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    From Wikipedia..

    Another limitation is that flash memory has a finite number of erase-write cycles (most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand 100,000 write-erase-cycles for block 0, and no guarantees for other blocks).[1] This effect is partially offset by some chip firmware or file system drivers by counting the writes and dynamically remapping the blocks in order to spread the write operations between the sectors; this technique is called wear levelling. Another mechanism is to perform write verification and remapping to spare sectors in case of write failure, which is named bad block management (BBM). With these mechanisms in place, some industry analysts[2] have calculated that flash memory can be written to at full speed continuously for 51 years before exceeding its write endurance, even if such writes frequently cause the entire memory to be overwritten. This figure (51 years) involved a worst-case scenario using specific data parameters and should not be confused with a particular "shelf life" for a flash memory device. The bottom line is that a typical user using a commercial device, such as a camera, with a flash drive will probably not wear out the memory for the effective life of the camera. However, it - like any other hardware component - can fail. Anyone using flash memory (and any other medium) for critical data would be well advised to backup the data to another device (preferably of a different medium).
     
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    i am pretty much set on getting one of thes myself now.. just need to find a way of funding it.. not rushing to buy one as i tihnk that the 9" model will be out soon and make the 7" jobbies that little bit chea per. :)
     
  18. AntiPasta

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    Appreciate the credit but I don't know all that much!
    What I do think is that you're all shooting yourself in the foot a little bit by not using the SSD and doing everything on SDHC, as I'm pretty sure the SSD is a lot faster!
    (unless it has a really crummy design)
     
  19. RyanGamerGoneGrazy

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    I my tests..its proved about the same...this is through loading firefox, progeCAD, frozen-bubble and project 64
     
  20. the_steadster

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    I am thinking on jumping on the bandwagon and selling my MacBook for one - The macbook, while small is just too big to take with me everywhere, too heavy to take everywhere, and I care too much about it to take it with me in case I break/lose it!
    My only issue is the small screen, anyone got any details on the 9" model? I'm thinking resolution, whether the physical size of the laptop will change (hopefully the screen will just fill the space around the edge) and possibly price
     
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