Estpolis Denki II NTSC-JAP Prototype

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  1. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    Actually, I think the sound quality is the same after all, but just does sound better because there aren't missing notes anymore at the beginning. And I'm listening with earphones now instead of just the speakers so that might actually be the explanation *is an idiot*

    By the way, I now have a theory about that unused 0C song.

    I just rewatched that ending movie of yours and Iris says that there are only 5 minutes left. She does not say this in the final version (she just says there is not much time left)
    Maybe, just maybe, they were planning to there to be a time limit for finding and destroying the three stones? If so, maybe song 0C might have played there since it sounds like a "Hurry Up" kind of music to me. (For the Savior is much better though)

    So here are some points supporting my theory:
    - Game suggests there might be plans for there to be a time limit
    - For the Savior is not in the game files
    - But this unused 0C song sounds like a hurry up theme (Maybe it would play even if there wasn't an actual time limit?)
    - Besides that, it's stored right after some songs that are related to the ending (09 being the three towers,0A is the Fortress of Doom, 0B is Priphea Flowers)

    But on the other side, why have an actual time limit in the game? Especially right there at the end =P
    Could you imagine this happening to a player?:

    Player: Hurray! I defeated the Sinistrals! *goes to destroy the stones*
    *player is too slow, keeps taking all the wrong paths in the mystic stones rooms*
    *5 minutes are over*
    Daos: GAME OVER! Muahahahaha!
    Player: What the! Now I have to do everything again!

    Theory is probably wrong, but that time limit is nothing but just a guess.
    I'll upload the 0C song next, so anyone else can think of a theory on the song?

    Also, I'm glad that spider looks different in the final game!
     
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    Sounds perfect now =)
     
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    - Parcelyte and the Castle:

    http://youtu.be/of36Lz4RctU

    - Treasure Sword Shrine:



    nb. I have a problem here when i want to fight the boss it's impossible because of 2 mans next to the door in red and when i want to pass the red door i have a chest with nothing impossible to open it.
    Anyone can help me please?
     
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    can you record a video/make some screenshots?
    In the final version there are two clowns there.

    edit: The 0C song is uploaded: http://youtu.be/l_1vbWQc0tY
     
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    Thanks for the ongoing progress on this proto :)
     
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    Awesome work guys! Is there any plans on a translation of this game?
     
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    Oh my god I can finally post here! Thank you oh almighty webmaster/staff! <3

    Anyways, I am following this proto since I saw the first screens. It's pretty awesome what they did back then. Sadly, it looks unplayable and not balanced, most bosses look rather easy (Camu and Tarantula seem to have the exact same stats) or later on non existing at all. Still, I would REALLY love to play through it.

    You are going to release the rom at some point, I hope? =O
    If so, maybe some hacker can repair the rom so it get's playable or even somehow balance it. Would be quite awesome.

    Anyways, keep up the good work!
     
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    Video:

    http://youtu.be/lZIohxR4MpQ


    I played in debug mode.

    Help me please!
     
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    A lufia fan and a Brony? Nothing can get better here.

    But that's indeed a good question: Are you ever going to release the rom at some point or are you providing us just footage we ask for?

    Anyways anything is great! I love the footage and can't wait for the changed music which Sinrevi is gonna post.

    @Trevor at this point where the game freeze your partners were suppose to split up and kill each clown with 2 of your members.

    Maybe your partner group isn't how it suppose to be since you've used debug mode to pass around stuff and so game freezes.

    Try do what the guy on youtube said.
     
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    Try to move normally in the middle of the room after fighting both of them (after the small speech before entering the room again). Normally, the group would split then in 2 teams and you have to fight both bosses one after another. Debug mode might be the reason why you can't progress.
     
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    What is the solution now?
    I hope i don't restart a new game :( lol
     
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    Back up the .srm file in the directory that the ROM is in. That way, if it does get messed up, you can restore it from the backup.
     
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    Wasnt one clown immune to magic and you needed to kill it with normal attacks and the other side is the opposite?
     
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    Try disabling any cheats that are on at the moment? Final version starts glitching up when you have too many party members (6 in total).
    You had Guy and Selan in your party before they should join, maybe the game still thinks there are more party members?

    Or after the two battles, go back in the room normally (without using the running function of the debug mode)
     
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    All solutions don't work.
    Perhaps I need to restart a party normaly without having 4 party members at start! and without debug code.

    I have all .srm files saved during my adventure. but i started with 4 characters so isn't a good solution!
     
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    Why did you start with 4 chars anyways? In begin when the rom was still buggy you just started with 1.
     
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    The problem is the first time I want to enter in the next room i can pass the door in red! and i can speak with 2 men.

    In the final version you can't pass the door!

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    Because I have found secret gate in the first village to have 4 characters and after that i come back on the world map.
     
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