Estpolis Denki II NTSC-JAP Prototype

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  1. trevormacro

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    Make sure to let trevormarco know the hex values of the songs that have missing notes so he can use the PAR code to record them again. Apparently there's some kind of issue that emulators will sometimes miss the very beginning of a song. trevormacro: when you retry the songs, hit the button to capture the .spc the exact instant you begin to hear the music. Then send them to Sinrevi again to make sure they're correct.
     
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    That village is name Nikoru. And it's not in the final game.

    By the way, is there a way to change the limit of 3 minutes for spc files?
    Some song surpass the 3 minute limit, so there are some songs that drop out halfway. (for example the ending song)
     
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    - After the Basement (Story Events):

    http://youtu.be/qlpZyprowLM

    What music have few notes missing?

    I can try to record them again.
     
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    Thank you!

    I'll try going throught the list again for noting the ones with missing notes on the beginning (which are actually many of them)
     
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    So all the village is new inside the mountains :)
    Perhaps new spells and items?
    There is no church but i can save the game outside with the man! original :)
     
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    So far:
    00
    0A
    0B
    Can't say for sure for 0C since it does not exist in the final version
    0D
    0E
    0F
    01
    1A
    1B
    1C
    1D the whole intro tune is missing!
    1E
    1F
    02
    2A
    2B
    2C
    2D
    2E
    2F Not sure about this one. Either it is missing the first notes, or maybe that just looks like it since something seems off compared to the final version. (some background melody starts later maybe?)
    03
    04
    05
    06
    07
    08
    09
    10
    11
    12
    13
    14
    15
    16
    17
    18 is also missing the "intro tune"
    19
    21
    22
    23
    24
    25
    27
    28
    29
    30
    31
    32
    33
    34???
    35??? is only three music notes long? is this part of a longer jingle?





    Lots of versions, especially the "special" music (music you only hear a few times in the game, like Daos' theme, Sinistrals battle, three tower) sound very WIP-like. Like they sound "weaker". the melodies are the same, it's just the use of instruments, and how loud the supporting melodies are. Uhh... what I mean is they're missing some "oomph" that the final version does have.
    Anyway, the final versions are definitely better ^_^
     
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    Okay, here's a little update:
    The main melodies are the same. But most of the songs still need to be polished, compared to the final versions.

    There are a few exceptions though:
    -The love theme, which sounds much more like the ending theme. (has extra melodies playing similar to the ending song) Most likely just an earlier WIP of To the Future. Shiono said in the OST booklet that the Love theme from the final version is actually a WIP version of To the Future, either the 4th or 5th out of 10 takes.
    -the main melody of the small shrine theme doesn't start until 00:15.
    - Excerion (Sky) has a longer intro, just like on the OST:

    Definitely missing from the files are: Narvick, Excerion (underwater) , For the Savior and Iris' theme.


    Song that do not exist in the final game:
    "0C" This whole song does not exist in the final game. No idea when this could even play during the game itself. Sounds kinda like a "Hurry up" theme to me.
    - A sad version of the overworld theme
    - "Compensation for the battle" actually this song was released on the soundtrack so you can listen to it here (skip to 00:40): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL23Q1U7T9A
    Since this one was released on the OST, it probably means it was removed very late in development.

    Anyway, It's just more easier for these to just hear the actual pieces themselves than describe it in words. If it's okay with you, can I record/upload some comparison videos?

    Edit: There seem to be 2 versions of judgement day. One sounds more like the final version but has some extra supporting melody in the background.
    It seems to be used a few times in the files (as placeholder files perhaps) where other soundfiles are in the final version (like Excerion's underwater theme)

    Edit 2: Idura's flute music is missing too, and the same goes for Idura's cage sound effect.
     
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    Well, as long as you include a copy of the raw dump along with the modified version when it's released, I'm fine. :)
     
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    Hi Sinrevi,

    I need to record songs 1D, 2F,18, 34, 35 again just that ?

    Anyway you can upload so comparaison videos I accept.

    Just sent you an email with these spc files recorded with Zsnes 1.51

    Let me know.

    Regards,

    Trevor
     
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    No I mean the whole list I posted the page before.
    Also, your redump files contains the victory tune twice and the battle theme twice (the fifth file is the loading file)
    Anyway, now you have the battle theme and victory theme with their intro tunes. However, these intro tunes are missing the first note(s).
    I think the loading screen is missing exactly one note too.

    by the way, 00 (the earth) is also missing half of it's intro tune.

    Anyone a special request for music?
    For now I think I'll start with the three towers music.
     
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    - North West Cave:

    http://youtu.be/DK4jM_Id94E



    Give me all the songs i need to record please? Hex.
     
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    This list
     
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    Just sent you the second record of all the songs on your email.

    Look and say me if all are good please.

    Thanks
     
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    Alright, I'll check them out.

    update on the redump:
    Now I do have the underwater theme? (song 20) which was Judgement Day in your previous dump)
    26 is now Idura's cage like it is in the final.

    The songs sound complete now.
    Also, did you do something to fix the music yet again? The songs sound much better now, (much more like the final version)! If so then please redump the other songs too that you haven't redumped yet. (perhaps re-check 37 and 38 too? to check for For the Savior and iris theme)

    Does this mean that when you thought you got a full sound fix, the sound was actually still not how it should sound?

    Gonna delete my two comparison videos =P And record some new better ones =P

    By the way, your redump is missing 10 to 1F!
     
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    - South East Tower:

    http://youtu.be/_SUM39Gcbpk

    - Boss: Camu:

    http://youtu.be/TpoV0Lw5jzc

    I don't fix the music. It's better so it's good :)
    I check 37 38 etc but Silence !
    I need to redump 10 and 1F ?
     
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    10 to 1F, so that means 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E and 1F
     
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