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gscartsw: automatic 8:1 SCART-RGB switch

Discussion in 'The ASSEMblergames Marketplace' started by superg, Jul 6, 2014.

  1. Grindpxxn

    Grindpxxn Member

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    Superg,

    regarding the JP21 switches: I could imagine that preordering (with payment) when the outcome is uncertain isn't everybody's cup of tea and two weeks to find 30+ orders probably wasn't very promising in the first place.

    Could I propose the following: maybe you could simply let people register their interest in buying a JP21 version, just by using a form on your order page. Let this run till sometime next year and once you hit a certain mark in terms of numbers, re-open the orders and let people do their payment.

    I want that JP21 version and what's another six months to wait ? I'm absolutely positive that enough people feel the same way and with more and more gscartsw reviews and recommendations coming out, interest will definitely increase (in general and for a JP21 version).

    Please do us this favor!
     
  2. retrorgb

    retrorgb Spirited Member

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    I think that's a great idea for JP21 switches. Maybe even just start a new thread here so people can post that they want one, keep a tally in the first post and when there's 30 orders, then get payment. Even if it takes months, it's safe for everyone; Worse case scenario, there's still no order placed, but no money was exchanged.
     
  3. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    I've spend too much time on JP21 edition and I won't be wasting more. I won't be creating any "interest forms", "waiting lists" and "waiting lists for the waiting lists" because honestly I don't think you realize how much time it takes to manage all this.
    Some people have already cancelled their orders and ordered SCART version. That's all I can propose at the moment.
     
  4. Grindpxxn

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    As I understand you created a custom JP21 PCB for that version. Don't you feel that's wasted by just creating a single (small) batch?
     
  5. Magus90

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    I know you are disappointed, but i am sure he has thought this through and it just doesn't make sense for him to keep JP21 around. People that keep "pushing" him to make the JP21's again are probably gonna annoy him after a while, as he has made it pretty clear he has no plans on bringing them back. He did give it a shot though, and put preorders up one last time. There just wasn't enough interest.

    It might not be the best option but converting to SCART really isn't THAT big of a deal IMO. I did just so i could use the Gscart because it was worth it to me.

    I had to sell all my JP21 cables and buy SCART versions, but when i can conveniently and easily switch between systems, it will be well worth it. And i won't have to wait forever because SCART Gscarts are basically readily available.
     
  6. gruntbuggly

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    If you ordered the remaining 20 switches to sell yourself, do you think you would make your money back?
     
  7. graphique

    graphique Enthusiastic Member

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    You'd probably make back your money 2 or 3 times over... eventually. But it would involve holding onto the merchandise for years, long enough for everyone to really be convinced there's not another batch coming. As you can see, people are still clinging to hope even now ;)
     
  8. Honk Bahh

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    Forgive my ignorance, but will there be more batches of the SCART version in the future?
     
  9. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    I'm pretty sure yes, it's not JP21.

    I've refunded every JP21 pre-order. Sorry everybody, it just doesn't make sense to continue with JP21.
    You still have a chance to pre-order SCART version if that works for you. I will cutoff SCART pre-orders tomorrow at the same time.
     
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  10. BigK_201

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    I'm sure it's impossible to change your mind as I am one person, but...

    I just went to order a JP21 switch this morning only to find out that it has been discontinued. I'm not one that hopes on forums and message boards very often, so I had no idea that this thread exsisted and that the JP21 switch was in jeopardy.

    I can understand that it must be hard keeping up with a product that many aren't showing interest for, but maybe there were others like me who were thinking of purchasing the unit in the future, but didn't have +$220 for the unit and needed to save up. I guess I made the mistake of going with JP21 cables rather than SCART but that was the converter my XRGB mini came with. I would hate to have to rebuy all the expensive cables along with a SCART switch.

    Was this mentioned anywhere outside of this forum that it was in Jeopardy? Maybe there are some in a similar situation.
     
  11. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    Who wants JP21: gather at least 30 units and I will be able to order. You can do whatever it takes, creating a separate thread, waiting lists, etc. My point is that I don't want to spend my time managing this nor holding off the community funds for undefined period of time. If some of you can coordinate this - you're more than welcome. Once you'll get 30 people willing to buy - we'll do this.
     
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    I received my unit quite a few weeks ago and unfortunately I have not been able to test it yet but I just wanted to say that the build quality is really fantastic. I cannot wait to test it in action!
     
  13. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    Guys, SCART pre-orders will remain opened until October 6, my manufacturer (China) is having a holiday anyway.
     
  14. Honk Bahh

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    Hey people, I've got a cable question. I will use the the SCART switch in conjunction with my framemeister. What are the cable recommendations to connect the switch to my framemeister? I currently have the passive female SCART to mini-din. Should I get a male to male SCART and just continue to use my passive adapter? If so what should I look for as far as quality in this cable?

    I've also seen this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201678179123?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
    which would allow me to not use the adapter at all, but is quite a bit more expensive.

    For reference if it matters I use rgb modded nes, snes, n64, unmodded genesis, psone.
    Thanks!
     
  15. Magus90

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    Use the Mini Din Adapter and buy a quality MALE to MALE such as this proaxial from Retroconsoleaccessories on ebay.

    It is pricey, but from what i have heard, is the best cable to use for this.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/161718717677?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
     
  16. Honk Bahh

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    Hi. Thanks for the response. I like that seller, as they've made my other SCART cables. My followup question is: Since this is the same price as the cable that is male SCART to mini-din, is there a compelling reason to go with one over the other? I live the the California if that matters. If I'm just shooting the breeze here, if I were ever to get a PVM/BVM might that have a SCART input?
     
  17. K405

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    If the passive female SCART to mini-din cable you are currently using is not giving you any picture quality issues, isn't affected by interference, there is no real need to replace it with mentioned SCART to XRGB Mini Framemeister cable - Pro Coaxial Multicore for switch boxes. You could always get one for aesthetics, it certainly looks nicer to have only one cable.
    Also given the fact that all the cables on your inputs are most probably not coax shielded wires it makes less sense to go for such a cable. I'm not saying the cable isn't any good, I'm just saying you should ask yourself if it's really needed and not a bit of overkill. It has to justify the investment right?

    Once you get your hands on a PVM/BVM it should be equipped/come with an RGB input interface board to be of any use. You can get female SCART to BNC adapter cables to hook up SCART cables.

    Hope this helps :)
     
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  18. cloudbot

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    So, monoprice was out of the VGA to BNC cable recommended earlier in this thread, so I got this one instead: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=566

    I just now realized, it has 5 BNC connectors instead of 4. I'm not entirely sure how the gscartsw would send the signal across the cable. Would it still work with just the R, G, B, and H or V plugged in, or should I replace the cable?
     
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  19. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    It's ok, you can leave one connector unplugged, grey or black, I don't remember which one.
     
  20. superg

    superg Site Supporter 2013,2014,2015. Tape Drive Donor.

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    The pre-orders are closed, I send an order to my manufacturer 2 days ago and they still didn't respond, maybe they are backed out a bit because of holidays. Will keep everybody posted.
     
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