"Let's make GD ROM emulation happen" Facebook group.

Discussion in 'Sega Dreamcast Development and Research' started by sonicdude10, Jun 18, 2012.

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  1. nonosto

    nonosto Intrepid Member

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    Thanks

    Nice it's seem the compatibility is high, except CDI, but what's this? iso back up run with USB GDROM?
     
  2. Rocky5

    Rocky5 Site Supporter 2015

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    CDI & ISO support aren't there. (even though MNEMO states ISO works, I haven't been able to get a single one to work.)
    unless he means ISO/GDI format, instead of RAW/GDI, in that case they both work.
     
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  3. LordFenixNC

    LordFenixNC Peppy Member

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    this is a assumption... and i know you cant spell it without ass... but... I think i saw on facebook when stone age made that announcement for 2015 they stated it had CDI *it says ISO sorry i was wrong* support... so maybe MNEMO is holding back for that to be a big update???

    WRONG... sorry need to edit this... it said ISO... but still odd for him to say GDI &ISO?
     
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  4. atari2atari

    atari2atari Rapidly Rising Member

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    Yup, I discovered that yesterday, that ISO doesn't seem to work. Tested a dozen or so, mostly SD-ISO Dreamshell format, and then a few others. Nothing works, mostly goes to the CD player screen. I'm thinking he means ISO/GDO, too.

    CDI is a must-have, I hope he unlocks that ability!
     
  5. OzOnE

    OzOnE Site Supporter 2013

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    AFAIK, CDI is very close to a standard ISO, just with the extra header added for Discjuggler?

    I'm sure ISO can be converted to CDI if the GDEMU firmware doesn't like them?

    OzOnE
     
  6. -=FamilyGuy=-

    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    It's not iso per se, it's 2352 bytes/sector cd-rom data with a cdi "header" (footer?) at the end of the file.

    Iso is 2048 bytes/sector, while raw audio files are 2352. The difference between 2352 and 2048 (304) is 16 bytes of sector indexing at the begging of each sector and 288 bytes of error correction at the end. Adding those to isos allows to merge isos and raw audio more easily. CDI was used at the time because it supported multisession images in a single file and explaining to everyone how to burn multisession images in 1999 was too much hassle for scene groups.
     
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  7. OzOnE

    OzOnE Site Supporter 2013

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    Yeah, what FG said ^^ :p

    Thanks, FG. :)

    OzOnE.
     
  8. bonesure

    bonesure Newly Registered

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    I'm very interested in one, especially if the price is lower than 100 EUR - paying half of what I've payed for a Dreamcast is just beyond me right now.
    Judging from the demand, you may still get quite a few customers. I understand, that you might not be able to move say 25 EUR down but I just might be in a different place financially when you offer your device. Good luck and thank you for your work.

    By the way, hi everyone - I've been following this thread quite closely and now it was time to make my move and register ;)
     
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  9. zouzzz

    zouzzz Site Supporter 2013

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    Arroseur arrosé, c'est bon ça [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. Rocky5

    Rocky5 Site Supporter 2015

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    You make one I will buy it.

    you could do stuff the others haven't, fully skinable front end, more menu options, since currently we have non & GDI(Raw/IOS), ISO, CDI & MP3 support.

    Also I would suggest to try & go with HDD or USB functionally instead of SD.
     
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  11. Sir.Totem

    Sir.Totem Newly Registered

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    Hello,
    Only my first post but, i have been following this thread since it was only 1-2 pages old. (Tried to register a couple of times too, but profile got limited right away, or something; anyways). I have followed the device that you (cybdyn) and OzOnE, started to post about with most interest. I remeber thinking that it was cool when the others made their versions of the GD-D(evice), but from the vision and description that you guys had of your version that would be better/cooler. To be honest when thinking about it now, and not re-reading the first 60 pages I cant remember why your device would be better. But for some reason I was hoping that your version would be released and/or maybe Mario's, since I got the impression he was trying doing it in the more simular manner as you guys?

    For less money and trusting my hunch/forgotten memories = I'll buy one.

    Also interested in MNEMO's USB version (Like the; store all in one drive approach). But since I just-almost tried to order it some times, I'll wait some more.
    (If I buy that one, I wan to re-seat the USB plug so it points angeled some degrees upwards-Inwards so i can plug the usb drive from inside the console or through the "old" Laser hole)
     
  12. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    i'll try. but i see if i make simple-cheap device it supports only ISO format (2048 per sector) in gd-drive emu mode, under dreamshell it suports more formats (all what DS does). i'm talking about g1ata adv.
    i have idea, maybe gather sd,hdd, usb in one device. dont know about price.
    but i think after "It had happened", i mean we can buy one of gd-drive emulator (from author), maybe only the price of such device doesnt give to most ppl touch it. so if there are many ppl who still wanna have such device it has point try make it.
     
  13. billcosbymon

    billcosbymon Guru Meditation Error

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    I thought you had it already done? Did you scrap it?
     
  14. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    i made SD version, like gdemu, and small one for HDD (g1ata adv).
    it's more or less working stable.
    BUT: it's not ready to sell. in short i reach what i want, and stopped at development stage.
    next i see, if it's still necessary for ppl. as we have couple version of devices in "store". but if there are many ppl still wanna get such device, and no plan buy expensive one, i have a chance to go ahead to release something in this way


    speaking truth, release is not easy for me, and i dislike assemble dozens of pcb boards on the table,
    i'm prefer more developing of something, not copying/multiplying same things.
    i thought, maybe make it in "open source" way. at least first part, basic features,...
    then if it's succes and we need more features i can sell/share updated firmware, maybe not, if some more smarter developer can add better code...
    in this case my results will not buried alive, like i have now)) and more ppl can touch it, assemble themself, like DIY, price should grow down
     
  15. lerabot

    lerabot Active Member

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    I'd buy a PCB and the chip and do the rest myself ;)

    For real. PM ME.
     
  16. spinksy

    spinksy Peppy Member

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    Well if you do decide to assemble some I will buy one :)
     
  17. -=FamilyGuy=-

    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    Open-source is REALLY a good idea in my opinion cybdyn. Especially if you don't have the time/resources to manufacture it yourself.
     
  18. lerabot

    lerabot Active Member

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    YES! Please.

    Or sell the PCB with the SMD chip pre soldered. People would get that I'm sure!
     
  19. Nemesis

    Nemesis Robust Member

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    A request: Could someone give a summary where this whole thing is up to, and what devices now exist, were cancelled, or are being developed? I know I could read the thread, but there are over 2000 posts in this thread now, and there's no way I can find the time to read it beginning to end. Can anyone who's followed this thing from the beginning give a summary of the current state of affairs? I'd really appreciate it, and I'm sure there are other people who would too.
     
  20. madsheep

    madsheep Peppy Member

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    4 Developers ~5 Devices

    1) Deunan
    Device Name: GDEMU
    Device Development: Finished
    Firmware Updates: Yes
    Storage: SD Card
    Formats Support: GDI, CDI, ISO(data container non bootable), CCD+IMG+SUB, MDS+MDF
    CDDA Support: Yes
    Disk Swamping: Yes (Button on board)
    Game Compatibility: 100%
    Menu: Yes
    Region free: Yes (Only if you use the Menu)
    Production: Small production by Deunan himself
    Order: https://gdemu.wordpress.com/ordering/ordering-gdemu/
    Price: 110 Euro (Shipping included)
    Site: http://gdemu.wordpress.com/

    2) cybdyn
    Device Name: DCIO
    Device Development: Ongoing
    Firmware Updates: ?
    Storage: SD Card
    Production: No (only testing)

    Device Name: G1ATA ADV
    Device Development: Ongoing
    Firmware Updates: ?
    Storage: SD Card, USB, Sata (under consideration)
    Production: No (only testing)

    3) MNEMO
    Device Name: USB-GDROM Controller
    Device Development: Finished (further development may follow)
    Firmware Updates: Yes
    Storage: USB up to 2 TBytes
    Formats Support: GDI, ISO, CDI
    CDDA Support: Yes
    Disk Swamping: No
    Game Compatibility: 100% (same games have problems but MNEMO fixed the most Games)
    Menu: Yes
    Region free: Yes
    Production: Small production by MNEMO himself and future mass production via Stone Age Gamer (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/)
    Order: http://3do-renovation.ru/How_to_buy.htm
    Price: 130 Euro (without shipping and money transfers)
    Site: http://3do-renovation.ru/USB-GDROM_Controller.htm

    4) Mario
    Device Name: ?
    Device Development: Not started only test board
     
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