Nintendo SNES PlayStation finally uncovered! [READ THE FIRST POST BEFORE POSTING!]

Hmmmm, so the BIOS has been released...How quaint.

 

@ASSEMbler - I agree with that - Apparently, part of the original agreement between Nintendo and Sony was to make sure any and ALL prototypes were destroyed when the agreement fell through.

I also think that either company could feasibly demand the "return" or destruction of the unit.

They should really have sold it if they wanted to make a bit of cash, but then I guess they are seeing if they can make a bit on the book as well first?

@MisterEnthusias - What's quaint about it? lol

Do you have any theories on why it was released?
I assumed it was because Daniel wanted to see the CD section working, so he could ask more money for it when / if he does decide to sell it on?

 

I backed it. What's the harm? They took the time to put together all those beautiful high-resolution photos and scans. Even if that's all it was, I feel it'd be worth the few bucks I chipped in. Don't understand some of the cynicism.

@ASSEMbler Not so sure. Both Nintendo and Sony are certainly aware of it. In my view, if either party wanted it back or destroyed, they would have acted on that by now.

 

I'm thinking about backing it too tbh.

I don't blame Dan at all for trying to get a bit of cash from this, and at least he is giving something in return (unlike the "Coleco" Chameleon "team". lol)

Probably true about the Nin / Sony thing though - they likely would have had their big bad lawyers jump on it right away.

 

Thanks; I love intelligent discourse.

 

Of course, let's cash in as much as possible. It's just like when celebrities near life long court battles then write a book about it, and push it on morning television.

 

So did this site.

Releasing the BIOS ROM and making a book are TWO different things and SHOULD be taken seperately.
My view on this is that there's already a french book about it (still in the making? have to check), I don't see any problems at all.
I don't mind this kickstarter, and I'm pretty sure the owners and the publisher already talked about the legal implications, there's no way this wasn't brought up. I just can't back it and if it allows for repairing the hardware (if any of you actually read it), that's his choice.

(EDIT: I do think $80 the book is too much.)
EDIT2:

One other problem that I have: Where's the source for that?
Where the heck does that come from?

 

I've definitely heard that mentioned on a few articles, and possibly on a vid or two before that whoever had the prototypes were "supposed" to destroy them after the project didn't go further.

I'll try and find a link about it, but I'm sure I'm not imagining it. hehe

Any news about the technical side of the BIOS yet btw, LuigiBlood?
Are most of the CD drive chips accessed at ports 0x21E0 onwards?

I'm intrigued to know if anyone is working on getting a disk made that will boot something (if the CD section does ever get repaired), or just boot something on an emulator, which will be kind of pointless, but fun.

 

I've also seen it mentioned... but no sources mentioned at all! Maybe someone probably speculated and others took it as real... which happened before. And considering we know Sony still has several according to Brian... I don't think they planned to destroy anything.

About the technical side: byuu checked it more than I do, and I promised that I will take a look of it myself on a livestream (and maybe a surprise with it? Not sure yet, don't hype it up though.)
But it seems $21Ex is about the CD drive but there's another fact that struck me: This is the first SNES ROM that uses external IRQs. In fact, it requires it. We're surprised. BS-X patents also talks about IRQs, but it doesn't require it at all, it just works.

And as I'm interested on making a working Hello World on it, I'm not sure if I'll do it, but it's an interesting challenge.

EDIT: Honestly though, I have other business to do at the moment. Once I'm done moving house, I'll take a serious look at it.

 

Hmm. Very interesting about the IRQ stuff.

I did notice some weird stuff in the Vblank routine that may have been related to the CD drive too.
Although, I think VBlank is done with the NMI instead?

Do you mean the BIOS cart itself detects the IRQ coming from the CD section, or that the cart itself asserts the IRQ?

Normally, the IRQ for CD access is triggered after each sector is transferred (or more commonly a block of sectors), like the 64DD.

Oh - moving house. I don't envy you at all - we "moved in" to our "new" house on 14th of October, and we still haven't even got all of the kitchen done yet. It's been the worst nightmare. lol - no carpets or heating / hot water for the first few weeks, and we literally had to rebuild an paint the whole house from scratch (new bathroom, plumbing, shower, new boiler, carpets, ceiling boards, plaster, everything. It sucked. lol)

And I'm STILL unpacking boxes and sorting through stuff after three weeks of having them here.

Anywho, hope your house move goes better than ours, LB.

We're still working on the Dreamcast HDMI thing atm.
Getting the custom flex cable and other bits done as we speak.

OzOnE.

 

How quaint of you to be pretentiously quaint.

 

As much as it is the responsibility of the user, it's still a lot of users and no one says anything. And then YOU say he broke the law, no shit.

 

Says the guy who released several GBs of Acclaim files on this very site. You have no grounds to criticize the owner for releasing the bios, something that really has no functionality besides showing some hardware tests, and Nintendo/Sony probably couldn't give two shits about.

 

And demanding something doesn't mean that they automatically get it back. Would just depend on how much of a lawyers time they wanted to waste.

 

Considering the guy won the system in a corporate auction, I can't see there being any grounds for Sony to demand the unit back. I doubt that Sony would care either way, and they don't really have legal grounds to get it back, since they sold it themselves. It isn't like this was a dumpster dive find.

 

Even dumpster dives can be legal, depending on the location of the dumpster hah

 

Even 20+ years after the fact? I'm sure any and all NDA's back then expired.

Also 20 years helps too, Sony / Nintendo might have cared a bit more if it was 1994.

 

Wasn't the story of how this was found about his father saving it from the dumpster as a janitor or something? I certainly don't remember anything about a corporate auction. That said, I've not been following this very much so I can be mistaken.