Oven baked 360 mmmmmmmmmm

Discussion in 'Modding and Hacking - Consoles and Electronics' started by johnace, Jun 7, 2009.

  1. johnace

    johnace Grumpy Old Man

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    My 360 showed signs of graphical impairment recently (greeny blue tint to all images) so i,ve just put the motherboard in the oven cos i dont own a heatgun lol, insulated with old t-shirts and silver foil on the caps and just leaving the gpu,cpu and ana chip out in the open....will post back with the results

    Wish me luck
     
  2. Twimfy

    Twimfy Site Supporter 2015

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    Amazingly this should work, I've seen countless videos of this in action.

    Be very very careful near those capacitors when they come out, they might look fine but they could explode without warning and either burn or blind you.

    I would recommend wearing glasses of some sort and keeping your mouth closed when you lift it out.

    And please ditch the comic sans. Very annoying to read. :)
     
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  3. johnace

    johnace Grumpy Old Man

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    I hope it does work, its the same basic principal as heatgunning so i may get lucky ;-)

    Plus i got a resi 5 white label on its way to me so i had to do something drastic to play it :110:
     
  4. johnace

    johnace Grumpy Old Man

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    It LIVES!!!!!! .....the colours are back to normal, bye bye green sky lol

    i will post pics later.
     
  5. Krypton_VII

    Krypton_VII Peppy Member

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    Really now..? I've never heard of anyone doing this.

    Sounds insane.
     
  6. PSPdemon

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    Wonder if this method would work for something like the YLoD PS3...
     
  7. johnace

    johnace Grumpy Old Man

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    Well i found out the melting point of the lead free solder was 222'c and my oven's max temp is 230....so i thought that 20 mins on max should reflow the solder just like a heatgun would, and its not as insane as you would think because i covered all the more delicate areas pretty well....look at the pics..

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    Just finished baking....ahh the smell of melting electrical tape :icon_bigg

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    The chips that needed a reflow left bare...the ana chip was the real target but meh,all for one and one for all:110:

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    No blown or bulging caps..looking good

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    Re-assembled, well sort of lol

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    Powered on and controller connected...*holds breath for game to appear on screen*

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    RESULT!!! no green tint :dance: now all i need to do now is disassemble (again) to solder connectors for another fan....but thats another project.
     
  8. skavenger216

    skavenger216 Familiar Face

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    Congrats, always good to see a 360 brought back to life.
     
  9. drakon

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    so.....all that just because of a cruddy soldering job?
     
  10. APE

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    Sadly yes. I completely forgot about the concept of using your oven as a reflow station. Shows what happens when making your own pcbs falls out of style...
     
  11. dulledblade

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    Wow, it lives. You should have cooked a pizza while you were at it. Then you would have had dinner and a show.
     
  12. APE

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    Let us know at various marks if it is still functional.. ie 1 week, 2 weeks, a month, etc.

    Very curious to see how this compares to the traditional heatgun w/x-clamping. Got a 360 here that is being a royal pain and I might try this tomorrow if I get bored.
     
  13. ChiefPFF

    ChiefPFF I Fix Stuff

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    Bout 2 weeks ago I had a customer bring in a 360 that he'd tried to reflow in the oven.. problem is.. he hadn't taken off the case - he just stuck the whole thing in! Looked like a Dali painting..
     
  14. APE

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    You think thats bad? I'll preface this by saying: I have an iq of 138.

    I had a 360 here with the RROD that wouldn't stay fixed no matter what I did so I decided to give this a shot realizing that it is a rather old technique to use a toaster oven for solder reflow on PCBs and 450F is hot enough to melt the solder...

    So I took it apart and popped it into my oven. Waited 10 minutes, let it cool down SLOWLY and started it up. Purrs like a kitten. A few hours later I realize the drive I took out was a BenQ, like my personal, fully functional Falcon. A quick check finds the real RROD console still RRODing...

    Fail.

    Popped that one into the oven and its been working just fine. Curious to see how long it will last.
     
  15. johnace

    johnace Grumpy Old Man

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    I wouldn't have been able to keep a straight face if some guy brought me a melted 360 lol
    LOL thats some funny shit right there :110:....i can just imagine your face when
    A)you first found out it was working.....yeah it lives SCORE!!!
    B) shit wrong console FAIL!!!!

    Btw mines still kinda working, it will play for 30mins and then rrod so i turn it off then back on..works fine till its under load again and rrod but as i stated earlier im gonna put another fan in the case so i haven't put it back together properly so it could be the fact that not all the screws are securing the motherboard or maybe my x-clamp screws are alittle lose/tight.

    Will give an update when i get the time/parts to complete it but
    having a wife and 4 kids is ruining my spare time rofl

    Edit: Got my 9 year old son stress testing at the moment with the most graphicly intense game i have (GoW2) hes been on for a few hours now and all seems well.
     
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    yeah truly amazing job. Wonder why the solder wasn't proper in the first place
     
  17. phate

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    I blame RoHS, and shitty board manufactoring :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Xian Xi

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    I'm a diy type guy but when a company puts out a faulty hardware design they need to fix it.

    My 360 was freezing all of a sudden and other crap so I just paperclipped it and sent it in and got a new one manufactured in 11/08, too bad it isn't a jasper as that additional ram could have been useful.
     
  19. APE

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    By ram you mean the onboard NAND? 512mb or whatever it is now? If the ram chips on the 360 boards might be useful some day (such as they were for adding additional ram to the old XBoxes) then I should be saving them... I believe the Jaspers have additional *empty* solder pads available for adding ram to as they used higher density chips last I checked.
     
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