PS3 encrypt broken, permanently jailbroken!

Thought I would jump into the fray with some insights on ps3 and CFW.

1. Installing the cfw on the ps3 is insanely easy and probably the easiest of all the console mods. The only thing easier is possibly the iphone jailbreaks where you just have to go to a website with the phone plugged in.

2. Emulators as of last week were in 1080p quality with some issues (sound etc). Within a short time expect perfect pre PS 2 emulation of any console in 1080p, which will be nice

3. Piracy talk is banned so lets keep this "allegedly". Its a total pain. First you have to download the file (the lowest 7 gbs going up to 20gbs). then you have to replace the eboot file with some modded eboot. Then you have to ftp the game into the console.

Not bad right? Well ftping takes forever. Then the game may not even work. Yep, there are tons of instances of people going through all this hassle and getting black screens of nothing. So very hit and miss. Literally just go down to the store and buy the game. Plus ps3 games are on blu ray which don't scratch like dvds so its worth it anyway for our collections.

Final point: Sony has nothing to worry about. This isn't like the psp where the games were 700 megs and mostly ran without issue. The majority of gamers, even those who mod 360s, will find running pirated games on ps3 a hassle. Plus the people who really do run pirated games is in the extreme minority. Think of Nintendo ds game sales. People are still buying ds games with all the R4s in the world. Its a real minority the people who take the time to learn how to run pirated stuff. And the ps3 just isn't there yet for that. But for homebrew and emulation, its awesome.

 

Well you aren't doing it right. To pirate a PS3 game is extremely easy. Well within the skills of the average internet user. Yes there may be problems with certain games and such, but someone that knows how to do it just posts a step by step guide that the less informed then follow. While you do have a point that the PS3 games are huge in size and can present more of a barrier, it doesn't account for those that would just borrow or rent games and rip them to their PS3 HDD directly.

This really is a serious piracy issue. Not only that this has been a serious online issue as I hear games like Call of Duty have been ruined by cheaters. If I played online games on PS3 and was playing games like CoD right now I'd probably be selling my PS3 and buying an Xbox 360 after all the cheating that has gone on. Sure the 360 isn't free of cheating but actual hacked cheating is pretty uncommon.

Anyway, you are trying to minimize the piracy as being a hassle. But you are wrong. It's not the complicated mess you believe or have been led to believe.

 

Majority of piraters are not going to rent/buy a game then rip it to the hard drive. They're going to try and download it direct. If your on a 3.41 cfw (before the geohot hack) playing a modded game is more of a direct download issue as they are made to "download and play". But with the geohot hack, your dealing with replacing the eboot and hoping the modded eboot works and no matter how easy you think it is, its still a pain.

Its not so much as being a hassle as I think its overestimated just how many people actually pirate. I would say the same thing before the ps3 cfw hit. Monster Hunter 3 for psp is huge in japan and yet its on the psp which is extremely easy to download games for. I think theres a misconception amongst people who are knowledgeable about playing pirated games that "everyone is doing it" but try walking into a Walmart and asking your average consumer about an R4 and see who knows what your talking about.

 

Haha, right.

Anyone who can do all that JTAG stuff is more than capable of copying a game onto an external HDD, which is basically all it'll come down to once the dust settles and some standards for CFWs/games are in place.

This is the most serious console security breach since the Dreamcast. It affects every PS3, it requires no hardware and almost no technical skills. Saying that a bit of hassle getting games to run properly is going to nullify all that is ridiculous.

The size issue is a non-starter too, I get 2MB/sec here in the UK and our broadband is shit compared to lots of places. At that rate I could download a 30GB BR disc in what, 4 hours? My ISP would moan at me if I downloaded dozens of games that size, but really, it's hardly a barrier to piracy.

 

My ISP moans if I DL a fraction of that between 9am and 9pm lol.... They say it affects the other users in the srea, which it doesn't. Why? Because 9-5 many are working, 5-6 they are travelling home, 6-7 they ar eating, 7-9 they are watching TV. Most importantly going by the large number of satellite dishes and the WLAN names they are also not customers of the same ISP. On top of this if I DL at full speed for a short amount of time my speed is halved then halved again and again until I stop for a good long while (which in theory is giving more speed back to the other non-users?) Also the ISP will moan if I DL outside of these hours too... damned ntl:

And before someone says it ntl: doesn't exist they just have a 30 year right to use the Virgin brand.

 

Traffic throttling like that is just rude. So far o2 have been excellent, no throttling as far as I can tell (I seem to get a steady 1.9MB/sec at all times). I'm in an ADSL2+ catchment area though, so I guess the infrastructure can cope? Not sure what factors influence how pushy they are about bandwidth usage.

 

The FW have control over the ps2 emulation? Can it convert the region of the console?
It would be handy to play some import ps2 games on my ps3.

 

Uh, no one that pirates things will be using GeoHot's FW hack. There are already 2 better alternatives that don't have this crazy eboot thing you are talking about. kmeaw is one, the other is some guy from Wii hacking I think.

So the process is just like before on 3.41 jailbreak, they download a game and ftp it onto their HDD. There is no funny business. It is a serious problem. While I do agree that companies will try to make piracy out to be an even bigger issue than it really is, it's also not the tiny issue others make it out to be. There is likely a sizable group of people that pirate games only because they can. Not that they can't afford to buy atleast some of the games they pirate.

Sony must be thinking very carefully about PSP2's security now as well as trying to figure out their move on a PS3 security hardware type change. Just look at the poor DreamCast. Anyone could get a game on a CD-R for free or very little and didn't need any modification of their system to play it. It stole tons of potential sales from a system that desperately needed game sales. They had other problems but the rampant piracy helped crush them.

 

Holy cat n' mouse, Batman....

Sony have released FW 3.56 which blocks homebrew. Apparently it contains a new .self file with an unknown key. Lets see how long it takes for this to be broken. I give it 24 hours.

 

nah, I'm saying 48 hours . . . only because its taking freaking hour just to download the freaking update :dammit:

-Disjaukifa

 

They already discovered the new keys
http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-Online/p...now-available-details-incoming/#ixzz1CCgXnmZo

 

This is exciting.

 

Looks like Sony disabled recovery mode . . . which is a bummer, I used that once or twice before just do backup my entire system . . .

-Disjaukfia

 

Have they yet figured out the PS3 (or 360) storage encryption? It'd have funny novelty factor to be able to browse/manage files as any PC format drive does.

 

Yes you can browse files, create new file folders etc. You just need to download a file manager program. Also if you ftp into the ps3 you have access to all the files.

 

I'm not sure that's what Lum was asking. There's no app to read or write to PS3-formatted HDDs in Windows, to my knowledge.

 

Isn't it more of an intellectual exercise now? Any update they push must be decryptable by previous firmware versions for which the keys are publicly known. So any attempt to pass new keys will just be a road bump.

Worst case, it takes developers a little longer to repackage files to sign and use the latest keys. To the end user, it's business as usual.

 

why has sony tried to change keys? it's pointless!

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I'd like to actually see new features and stuff fixed instead of them trying to just thwart hackers. The update took almost an hour to download on my machine and for the size, I can't tell a difference other than Sony supposedly removing the Recovery Mode . . .

-Disjaukifa

 

That's because a "small security update" i.e. the new key system is the only difference.