PS3 encrypt broken, permanently jailbroken!

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by madhatter256, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    I've been up all night.
    At like 2AM my buddy was playing a game online that I don't own.
    Then I started reading up about CFW... And "backup" launchers and online play...
    Was really bored...
    Lets just say it was hard.

    So instead I pira... watched a couple movies.
     
  2. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    And do very little to prevent piracy. Anyone who's got a CFW installed almost certainly has internet access, if they're inclined to pirate a PS3 game in the first place they'll just download the inevitable cracked copy.

    I doubt Sony would do it, to be honest. It's a bit too hostile to retailers and customers. I remember them mentioning the idea before the launch of the PS3, though, so who knows.
     
  3. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    If they really start using that DRM crap, i bet more people will then be interested on jailbreak and piracy.

    And guess what. I bet hackers would "kill" this DRM very easily, leaving the DRM stupidity only for those who actually spend money on original games.

    It's incredible that everything these companies can think about is to piss off their loyal customers. If someone is using pirated games, just ban the damn console from PSN / Game Updates and also ban their online id.

    Why add difficulties / issues to the people that actually buy your original products? One of the coolest things Sony did on this generation was to make the PS3 region free. I have games from all regions. Asian, Japanese, European, North America... About half of them were used.

    I already dislike EA's approach on online features, having to buy an online "key" if you got a used game. Yeah, right. Like they would still have the servers up online a year later.
     
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  4. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    The PSPgo was also too hostile, yet there is was :033:

    but yes, the cracks will be all over the place, not sure it will help.. just another speed bump.
     
  5. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    Enjoy this last generation of physical media while you can, I bet the PS4+ will be online DRM content only, even worse the games you "buy/rent" will be only available in the cloud and so no local copy will be present and no internet = no games to play.
    If this isn't going to happen with the PS4, then surely 5.

    The problem with that whole banning thing if you ask me is that I too will be banned, while I am a good PSN customer and I only play original PS3 games. Tho due to my curiosity to test homebrew I am probably already on some shitlist as we speak.
    Then looking at my situation specifically, I would rather have them go the DRM/license route then actually banning my ID where I spend huge amounts of money which I won't be able to access anymore.
    Hard one..
     
  6. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    nah, don't worry too much, nintendo hates the internet :p

    besides, most people in the world prefer/use retail stores to buy their shit. It's a portion of people that can't be cut out overnight I assume.
     
  7. Rogue

    Rogue Intrepid Member

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    Even if that happens, there will be market for phisical media. It doesn't need to be with the mainstream systems (Nintendo, Microsoft).
    So someone would explore that gap, and maybe new brands pop up in the market.
     
  8. Consumed

    Consumed Fiery Member

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    Putting a 5 system limit on software is all but pissing in the wind, it only becomes effective if the host console/s is/are online. A second hand copy can go between any number of offline units somewhat nullifying it's implementation in the first place, the disc itself has no idea where or what it's been used on and if the unit is offline then it's got nothing to check against. Making a console game unplayable out of the box unless you have the ability to connect to a master server somewhere is akin to financial suicide. The difference between DRM conditions on a console title and a PC title are small but subtle, namely 95%+ of PC's are net connected and it's now become accepted practice that most PC games require online activation, however, you start forcing online activations on what is still perceived as a toy and you're heading for a whole heap of trouble.

    As for me I've no intentions now or ever of modding my PS3. My 360 is flashed, my Wii is chipped and soft-modded with a 500 GB external HDD velcro'd to it's side, my Xbox's, Saturns, PSX's and PS2's are chipped and my PSP hasn't seen a new retail UMD in 4 years. My Neo Geo CD and Dreamcasts play nothing but cd-r's, my 'Cube is thick of dust waiting to be chipped and my DS has an R4 card in it. Apart from my SNES/Super Famicom carts I reckon 98% of all of my software is bent and has been for donkeys years. But the PlayStation 3 for me is different. If a game is cross format, I'll d/l the 360 version and if the game is any good I'll buy it for the PS3. I've got 54 PlayStation 3 games from all over the world, multiple accounts on the PSN with software purchases from the US, HK and of course the UK stores (I'm British). And I'm incredibly happy buying both physical and digital content. I like going onto the store every Wednesday night and seeing what's new or on sale. I like going into the SingStore every other Friday and buying new songs to murder with my daughter. I like going online and having a quick session on Everybody's Golf World Tour now and again. I like gaming again because I bought a console that I was led to believe was bullet proof. Sadly that's no longer the case but thanks to Sony's vigilance or now as it turns out, blind luck, I now enjoy buying games again. Had it not been for all the times I got repeatedly scalped by shady importers back in the early days my attitudes to piracy would probably be different, but when you're paying £80+ on a Super Famicom cart and £200+ on Neo AES carts to be told a couple of weeks later that your game is now 'old' and worth £10 and £40 respectively you kinda get just a little bit fucked off, and to add insult to injury when the PSX comes out and you're paying £50-60 for new titles while the same shopkeeper is selling 'golds' of the same disc to his mates for £20 you start to question exactly how much this hobby means to you. Because of this kind arrogance and little short of thievery I along with probably countless thousands of others here on this forum and everywhere else in the world became complacent and thought less of it being a fuck you to the software publishers as getting my own back as it were on shady importers. I'm not trying to condone my actions, just give a little perspective. Now times have moved on and old habits die hard but I will continue buying my PS3 games because for once I think I'm actually getting value for money. All this talk of getting homebrew to run though is just smoke and mirrors, if you want to run emu's in HD buy an original Xbox. Once you mod a system for whatever initial innocent reason it's the death knell for legitimate purchases. It may be a week, a month or a year, but once you try that first rip and it boots you'll never go back to retail again. I know it, you know it and from the last 2 generations Sony knows it all too well too.
     
  9. rika_chou

    rika_chou <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    You cannot be serious with this line.

    The original Xbox is not HD. PS3 is much more powerful, so it has the potential to run more complicated and complex emulators. Even systems like N64 and PS1 ran pretty bad on the original xbox. (every game I tried had issues that made them unplayable) There's also other good uses for PS3 homebrew like HD media players and being able to play legitimate backups. (yes, people should be able to this.)

    I know that PCs are able to do all this and more, but not everyone has a powerful PC and not everyone is a able to connect their PC to a tv.
     
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  10. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Don't forget programmers like me who might like to make something for the console. Making your own software is just as fun as playing someone elses.
     
  11. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    You really haven't used a modded Xbox eh?

    You can run emulators up to 1080i/720p
    sure, not all of them run well at that or even in 480i/p
    But quite a few do.
     
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  12. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    1080i is equial to 480p think gran turismo 4 for ps2
     
  13. rika_chou

    rika_chou <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    I have one that I would use for homebrew all the time, it's been a while but I definitely don't remember any HD.
     
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  14. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    no no no, just no, that statement is wrong.
     
  15. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    That's like saying "1000 stones is equal to 500 marbles"
     
  16. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    One of these days you're going to be right about something, and we're all looking forward to it, but today is not that day.
     
  17. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    I want to run them on my current console that I actually use to game on, I want it to run on a console that I can power on remotely because I am lazy like that, I want it on a console that has good wireless contellers (esp. sony ones as they are my fav) I want it to run on 1080p and be connected by HDMI.. I want... something new basically ...

    Anyway besides all the bullshit mentioned above, I just want it as a proof of concept, I want it because it's possible, because I want to test it, because I am curious by nature.

    I still have my old modded xbox, but I can't stand to look at that ugly thing anymore, let alone have it perm connected to my tv as my main setup.
    Hell I still have my NES/SNES and MD, so why emulate it on my PS3 if you can do the real thing? well because it's possible :thumbsup:
     
  18. Consumed

    Consumed Fiery Member

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    It's possible to achieve climax by use of a Fleshlight and it's ilk or one of those Real Feel lovedolls but surely it's better to use 'original hardware'. Not the best analogy in the world I'll grant you but the tired old argument of 'because I can' is just a cop out. Maybe it's my age but I remember when games consoles were for playing games on and enjoying yourself, a break from the mundanity of life and an escape from reality. If your driving force for owning a console now is so you can watch piss awful modern TV shows and non Hi Def filmed movies in post-processed fake super sparkle-o-vision and play old games that look nothing like they should thus losing half of their inherent appeal then I'm afraid somewhere along the line you've lost the point of the hobby that got you here in the first place.
     
  19. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    I can't speak for others, but losing the hobby to some extent is just part of growing up, getting more responsibilities in life and such losing time to spend on your hobbies.

    Off course it's better to use the real deal, but it's a hustle to connect it all or keep it all connected. My driving force is to have an ALL-IN-1 solution, because I have less time left and because I don't want the mess & hustle. Sadly I don't live the single young student life anymore.
    So if that means a single box to watch my shows/movies/pix, play my games or emu and so on, then yes I love it (can't wait to see XBMX/boxee port on the PS3!!) if this is not your thing, fine but then don't speak for others and do your own thing.

    Then we go back to hobby, well my hobby has always been mainly to mess around with software, and so that includes "because I can" mentality of testing things, that it doesn't apply to you is fine, I have fun doing it, so again don't try to speak for others please.

    This may sound shocking on this forum, but I havn't been a real gamer in that sense for years, it's mostly nostalgy now and the occassional game at night.
    Just having a reason to see some old game run again on my PS3 get's me excited, I don't actually seriously play them, I just enjoy the sounds and views, go down memory lane.. and that's enough to make my day.
     
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  20. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    We had no reason to go to the moon, either. But we did and it was thebomb.com.

    I see Consumed's point, but I think (s)he has overlooked the contradiction - if games are for playing, enjoying, and escaping, then it shouldn't matter what platform is under your TV. As long as the representation is accurate enough for the individual's own personal taste.

    For the record, I can't enjoy playing a game if it's emulated... the same way I can't read a book from an electronic device or enjoy certain music in MP3 form.
     
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