PS3 encrypt broken, permanently jailbroken!

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by madhatter256, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Pirating of 360 games has been around much longer and has been almost as easy though has gotten harder on newer hardware. All current generation consoles suffer piracy now but all combat them (or will in the case of PS3) with both software and hardware updates.
     
  2. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

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    I decided to pirate every game in sight after sony decided to not allow me to play on PSN and subsecuently fucked me by not letting me use netflix. Now geohot released a patch to 3.55 that adds an "install package feature" that lets you install signed homebrew. I deleted all my pirated games and installed it. I just wants me some emulators and netflix, im sure there are more people like me out there.
     
  3. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    geohot: is going into court, and is probably going to loose. Since guess who has the money to win such a case ? yes you guessed it. Sony is suing geohot. It seems to me, certain things are now becoming underground again.
     
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  4. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Some of what he's being charged with is daft, but from what I've read of the DMCA, his violations there are pretty much inarguable. The guy reverse-engineered a copy protection system and released code and tools to assist others in exploiting it. There are exemptions that sound like they come close to protecting that:
    He's hardly working in Sony's favour in breaking this security and the information derived absolutely facilitates copyright infringement. Also, that's for videogames accessible on personal computers. I'm not sure how robust that definition is but I doubt it includes the PS3.
     
  5. lvsteven

    lvsteven Robust Member

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    Curious...

    Why will he loose? The supreme court is on his side as they ruled jail breaking an iPhone to be legal.

    Believe it or not with a decent anti organization behind him like those guys who argued for jailbreaking, he could win.
     
  6. lvsteven

    lvsteven Robust Member

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    Sorry... Sony banned your console from psn and netflix? How?
     
  7. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    There are exemptions in the DMCA for mobile phones to open them to other networks. PS3 isn't a phone.
     
  8. LEo

    LEo Fiery Member

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    Wow you actually have support in mexico for the 360...,\ the shop I work at, the motto is very simple.

    No copia, no vende.
     
  9. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

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    No, I used to use the netflix disc and it worked fine, but then they got rid of the disc and gave everyone 30 days to switch to the downloadable app on PSN, after that the disc would be useless, but they would not let you log in into PSN unless you were running the latest firmware which would remove the jailbreak functionality. Now I'm on the latest firmware and I can still install homebrew thx to the keys and geohots lil' mod and I can now download and watch netflix.


    btw: even if you were able to download that netflix app , it would ask you to update your firmware and if you some how managed to go around that you still had to be logged to psn at all times.
     
  10. lvsteven

    lvsteven Robust Member

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    Huh,

    I am actually unhappy with the netflix app.
    At first it was much nicer, then they dumbed it down. One of the reasons I bought a ps3 was for netflix... i only got one after I couldnt find an appletv for sale and wanted to stream the service.
     
  11. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

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    I'm thinking about getting a roku, it's only like 60 bucks.
     
  12. lvsteven

    lvsteven Robust Member

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    the 1080p version sells for about $100
    http://www.amazon.com/Roku-XDS-Stre...C57O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294895729&sr=8-1

    The thing about that is I wanted to stream avi/mkv/whatever and aside from a $500 pc media center, the ps3 was my best option considering the Java media server seems to transcode it all, as long as I am using my already existing core2 duo desktop as a server.

    And as crazy as it sounds to already have that sort of PC to use as a server, consider there is no "easy" way to get netflix from a PC to a tv, you are always going to use the very so squinty web version (there is no "real" 10 foot interface for it, boxee being the closest) and then getting it to "just work" for those in the house who are not tech ppl like me...

    BACK ON SUBJECT.

    i wonder if this will allow those with imported ps3's to play netflix. AFAIK it is region locked. I am curious of access to the root will allow people to change things like region encoding etc.

    And i point out, there are some games on PSN that i would love to play which have no DEMOS... like angry birds.
    To be painfully honest, the fact that sony doesnt require ALL software to have a demo like microsoft sucks, and I will NOT spend $10-$15 on a PSN game i cant try.

    So I can indeed see why so many people pirate iPhone apps, because you cant really try all of them out in demo mode.

    Doesnt make it right, but worth some thought if all of a sudden with a USB key and a little app from the internet I could actually "demo" anything... I buy loads of software, and in the past have been burned by so many iPhone and iPad games that i just gave up using that platform for anything new that isnt ported form another platform.
     
  13. alecjahn

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    You could easily argue the PS3 was a personal computer.





    Before they removed OtherOS from it.
     
  14. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Sony tried to class the PS2 as a personal computer, for tax reasons, but were rejected. Never heard anything about the PS3... I imagine they tried again, though.
     
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  15. lvsteven

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    Dont know if it matters to a court, after all "whats in a name"

    SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT OF AMERICA.

    If one wanted to argue whether or not sony themselves who makes only TWO games for the pc (Everquest and DC Universe Online) classifies the console as a computer than this could be a good indicator that they are turning around and changing their tune.
     
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  16. DeckardBR

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    Sony is now trying to sue GeoHot, famous jailbreaker responsible for the 3.55 cfw

    As for the whole piracy and emulator business, its really starting to role out for the ps3 after that conference and geohots hack went online. For emulators there is something to playing arcade, snes and genesis games in 1080p...theoretically of course. As well as being able to maneuver through the file system like a pc.

    It is a case of owning the machine for yourself as opposed to the rental and use it how we want you too of Sony/Apple etc. You can't ever condone piracy but its hard not to get excited for cool homebrew.
     
  17. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    if it was sold with Linux, it's a computer for all intents and purposes right from the get go. The fact that they removed it doesn't mean shit at this point really, considering how people are doing this to "get their computer back". At least that's what will be argued if the defense is clever.
     
  18. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    I agre with Barc0de. OtherOS removal will be the main weapon of defense.
     
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  19. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    I wish them all the luck. Wouldn't fancy being in their shoes right now, though.
     
  20. LeGIt

    LeGIt I'm a cunt or so I'm told :P

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    I just read the news of the court case myself and found this particular part laughable "Sony alleges the defendants have 'circumvented effective technological protection measures'"

    Effective? Given as the measures were not only ineffective but fundamentally flawed from the outset I'm struggling to see how this wording makes any sense.
     
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