PS3 encrypt broken, permanently jailbroken!

erm, yep

(well they could with new hardware, but still...)

 

I been to parts of the world were pirating isn't an alternative but the way most people play games.

The fact is that when you can buy an X360 and get it jailbroken/flashed/whatever right in front of you before you take it out of the store, theres no reason to buy legit, besides LIVE.

That was the situation more or less the last time I went to spain, and to be honest the fact that the PS3 couldn't be hacked until recently not only didn't affect sales but forced a lot of people to actually buy a game for the first time in their lives.

The fact is that for most of them the idea of being left out of the whole experience was worst than having to pay for the games or consider moving to another platform (like the X360).

But now? from what my friends there tell me, and combined with the awful state of the economy, I can say most spaniards will be getting their new PS3s jailbroken-only

 

Studio A releases a game and can confirm that 10k units left the shelves and they got the apprproiate cash to prove it. Sales then drop off like a rock and no more units are sold because everyone who wanted it has bought it.

Studio A now claims piracy destroyed their business when in reality only 5 copies have been downloaded but says 5k have been downloaded.

This is how it works in business propaganda now but clearly the numbers would be different and the reason for sales dropping isn't usually the same. But my point still stands. Find me some piracy figures that aren't just estimates and you'll have something convincing Alchy. Sure there are charts showing how many people are currently torrenting a file but that doesn't prove they finished it, installed it, played it and were going to buy it if it wasn't available for download.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/05/first-ps3-custom-firmware-working-doesnt-allow-piracy/

And the URL says it all.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/artic..._using_made_up_piracy_figures_says_gao_report
"According to the GAO, none of the numbers stand up to scrutiny because they, "cannot be substantiated or traced back to an underlying data source or methodology.""

This is my problem. I have yet to see any hard evidence showing piracy to mean anything other than "sales that didn't materialize because our economic forecasts said so".

For the record I'm not denying that if everyone who pirated game X had instead purchased it sales numbers would be higher. What I'm claiming is that piracy numbers are grossly inflated across the board for all industries and they try to use fake figures to scream bloody murder.

 

Remember when i said that removing OtherOS inspired hackers to work harder on the PS3? Was i wrong?

Pratically everybody would say, a year ago, that was impossible to hack it or just to difficult to bother. That changed when geohot started posting about his work.

Well, after the removal of OtherOS...

More here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12116051

 

Finally the story has hit the news... lol

Have to wonder how it took them so long to break a story =/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12116051

Now the PS3 is basically permahacked and the removal of the feature is now pointless, I WTB OtherOS back with support for my slim <3

EDIT: I'm such a retard I didn't even spot Johnny's link above me haha! Though maybe it was hidden amongst the epic quote or my quasifaceblindness kicked in.

 

I hope that a) they will release a custom firware and b) I can finally go back online without needing to update to access the Store (from where I make valid legal purchases mind you) and play online.

Would the second leg of my wish be possible in the light of current information?

 

http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/2011/01/ps3-first-custom-firmware-now-working/

 

Originally, I bought only original. And then, I couldn't get originals at all, and I had to go pirate. And believe me, I had a mighty fuckload of pirated PSX (and Dreamcast) games back in the day. Suddenly, the one or two legitimate stores that sold original only stopped carrying Shooters, RPGs (Them readin' games don't sell. Why don't you buy Fifa instead, nerd-boy?), and other non-best sellers.
So it was either pay through the nose for shitty illiterate games, or get my PSX chipped and also gain access to the world of (copied) Japanese imports. I couldn't get stuff from the States, either, because the post office stole everything every time. And I learned of many games I never would have ever seen, and I really became a gamer thanks to this. Many companies got my business years after because I knew of their games.

I made the right choice, and once Wal-Mart and others started carrying good games again, like 5 years later or so, (PS2 was out already) I started buying original again. I mean, I was laughed out of a "legitimate" games store once because I asked for Dreamcast games. It was insanity.

Now, I know Spain isn't the third world, but our situation here is similar.
In the case of the third world, it's business hurting itself, and sometimes Piracy was the only way out. It's a vicious cycle. The companies don't bring the stuff, or it's taxed out of reach. Even if you want original, sometimes, there's no getting it anywhere.

Companies don't do business with the third world, because "there's pirates" - but there's pirates in the third world because companies don't bring stuff here in the first place.

Mind you, I wouldn't pirate a current generation game, under any circumstances... unless support and distribution somehow was as shitty as it was in the 90s down here. But now the companies RESPECT our market, and we as gamers pay in kind.

 

I cant wait for good home brew(xbmc like software) and powerful emulators with move/guncom 3 support.
I want to play all my light gun games again !

hell i get the boot of 90% of everything ps3 360 wii and every thing in the past but i still own 1100+ games....
I buy what i really want. I then test the rest with boots and if i really like it i buy it.
I almost never play the boot after the 1st test run...

I have a handful of sealed new games that i beat by playing the boot....

I just preorder little big planet 2, beat Ys7 on psp(have the collectors ed new and sealed still) last ps3 game i bought new was time crisis razing storm mainly for Deadstorm Pirates

 

Well Sir, it took four days to Danish news (today) to Write about Ted Williams, which I already knew about since it came on to Reddit. So talking about crazy.. well yeah it is crazy.

 

I was talking about the general public xerdo, we know you're a collector like us man, dont worry:thumbsup:

I agree about availability, I think publishers should stop bitching about taxes and just print the damn games there, after all they already make original DVDs and CDs in most countries of the world, so making games isn't rocket science.

Then there's the hardware part, take the X360: if you were in a country that didnt had official support back when the RRODs were still common you were SOL if your console died, since from what I heard no importers would take care of it, there was no warranty.

The spain example was to show that even in first world countries were prices and availability aren't a problem people will still pirate the shit out of a console if they have the means to do so. Once your X360/Wii/PS3 is unlocked playing pirated games on it is even simpler than on a PC, since those still need pricey hardware and tweaks on every game to work properly, and sometimes even that isn't enough (see GTAIV)

 

So, I haven't updated since 1.41 or whatever it was.

Do you think I'm safe to update and play a few games online? My problem is that I don't thrive off of online gaming, but sometimes I'd love to do so for a few hours.

From what I gather, these findings (when it comes to homebrew and linux, etc) are completely unrelated to firmware version, at the very least for the time being.

I think I'll play some MAGS and COD3 tonight... maybe.

 

A friend of mine has had a PS3 for months and as soon as they released a firmware removing OtherOS he refused to update it no matter what game came out. He never even used the damn function just hated the idea of losing it in case something cool came along that would take advantage of it.

Hopefully this will teach the industry that you just don't take away toys from the smart kids.

 

Well said!

I would only like to add one thing... As the 'debate' over piracy/sales escalates over the years (and it has done) The games industry still sells more products each year than the year before (it's the same with movies, it's the same with music)

The graph for legitimate purchases is only ever going up, not down. In my mind this proves just one thing - that piracy (or try before you buy) is not having the negative impact people always (automatically) assume it is having. It gives those who can't afford it the chance to play it (almost all of the PR China, as an obvious example) and those who can afford it get the opportunity to know what they are shelling out for... This is what the figures indicate.

The concept of 'potential lost sales' is laughable, at best. Only a monkey would equate a million downloads of Fifa 11 with a million 'lost sales'.

 

do you have 3.55 now? if not, the 2nd part is already possible and has been for a while.

i've been messing aroud with the jb using my ipod. i've been trying to mod ssf4 but it's not as easy as i thought is was going to be. anyway this news excites me not because i care about piracy, but because i make characters in games the colors i want them to be haha

 

so you're able to rollback firmware to put linux back on right?

http://www.1up.com/news/air-force-building-supercomputer-2000 <<

because I remember the USAF getting up in arms about OtherOS being removed because it jeopardized this entire project

 

USAF would have only lost the feature if they updated and they were under no obligation to update?

Building on the article though I remember the Cell was supposed to communicate with other Cells. As Cells are shipping in TV's now too, with a PS3 and Cell TV hooked up via Gigabit Ethernet or whatever is there any support in place for improvements in one or both products?

 

yep

 

You could just dual boot similar to GameOS/OtherOS with latest firmware.

 

I like how you think, mate. Thanks.

Now, Microsoft did take over the Mexican market using this logic. The original Xbox was just a test, but we had a region 4 version and it was decently supported - but when the 360 came out, they made a complete official release for Mexico. If your Xbox failed, they sent you a box, you had regular guarantees (that went to 3 years, like the U.S.), and had comprehensive customer support in Spanish. And games are affordable!

So even I, who grew up on Nintendo and Sony consoles, chose the 360 for this generation. Sony is just starting to support the PS3 in Mexico... and, well, it's too late for them. The original units came here smuggled by abusive re-sellers and were expensive as fuck. And if you get the YLOD, even today, you are mostly fucked.

It's hard as fuck to pirate either 360 or PS3, and there are few current-gen pirates down here, but bet you there's going to be far more PS3 pirates than 360 pirates in Mexico once this jailbreak thing catches. (Right now, though, there are 360 pirates. I just don't know anyone who has a mod-chipped console or pirated games).