PS3 Hacked - PS Jailbreak

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by DPyro, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. danhans115

    danhans115 Spirited Member

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    Ive been looking for some parts to do this in the UK, practically everywhere has sold out of most things AT90 based :)
     
  2. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    same, I m really interested in this. Not that there's any game's worth pirating, since the few ones I like I buy second hand, but..piracy/second hand, same profit for developers:p
     
  3. JamesMichael

    JamesMichael Light Hearted Drunk

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    Anyone get a chance to test out the PS Groove? Still waiting for the PSP or iphone/ipod version to make an appearance.

    Mean while check out the new features of that back up manager which are apparently making the rounds on the web. Rumor has it the new version 1.1 will be available in the next week or so


    • Support for NTFS.
    • New version of Backup Manager.
    • Compatible with all firmware versions of the PS3 and later.
    • Support for Blu-ray disc, PS2 and PSX.
    • Auto Updater via PC connection.
    • Ability to play. MKV and run hundreds of future applications like XBMC.
     
  4. LuckyToke

    LuckyToke Robust Member

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    If this happens I will buy one straight away. I guess there are reasons why sony wont let us play sertain types of file formats straight from the box, but why not give us an option to add a 3rd party app or even pay for an sony app...

    I use the PS3 as my media centre and drives me crazy when it cant play what I download.
     
  5. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    sounds great, but i'm still trying to understand if sony can ban/firmware disable it...

    i'm not going to buy a 2nd ps3 for homebrew only... and soon GT5 will be out :Rock:
     
  6. samson7point1

    samson7point1 Spirited Member

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    Just from a technical perspective, Sony will definitely have the capability of banning people for using this. The question you should be asking is whether or not it is feasible for them to do so. The went as far as whacking Linux support to plug a false security hole, so they'd probably go pretty far to block this.

    Since the EULA for the recent firmware allows Sony to scan your entire hard drive and NAND and record the contents, any fingerprints left by using one of these - such as installing backup manager, would be very obvious and they could use this as a means to identify you as a user "out of compliance" and do all manner of nasty things about it. Whether or not such action would be defensible in court is anyone's guess, but chances are Sony would take the risk.

    From what I've read about how the exploit works, it would be a trivial matter for Sony to see the fingerprints of the hack in running memory.

    It is technically possible to bypass both of these potential "checks" by staying offline while the hack is running, and swapping hard drives with a clean one before going back online. However the hack only allows access to the game level areas of memory - there are "higher" areas of memory that are still fully protected. If I were a Sony engineer, I would simply run a "watchdog" process in primary memory that watched for the hack, and set some sort of check bit in the protected areas of the NAND (the ones we still don't have access to) and just wait for you to go back online. Once you phoned home to the PSN, your console could upload the results of the check and Sony could ban you. I suppose you could avoid something like this by simply never updating your console again (they can't install new code if you don't let them), but that carries its own limitations.

    Now from Sony's perspective, the disincentive to doing this is the backlash that would occur if they accidentally banned a large group of people because of a false positive. The way I see this happening is the first time they release a patch that attempts to detect this hack rather than just prevent it from happening, the hackers are just going to figure out how to randomize it or hide it in memory so that it becomes much more complex to identify it.

    More likely Sony will just write off those people who use the hack and won't update - won't let them talk to PSN without a (more reliable) version check, and just patch the flaw that the hack exploits - even if that means that they disable USB support entirely. That would be crazy, but so would removing Linux support and PS2 backwards compatibility and they did that, so I wouldn't put it past them.
     
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  7. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Seems you can now do this exploit via a Nokia N900 phone. :lol:

    I hope this means region free PS2 gaming. That is really all I freaking want out of this. Yet i'm worried region lock on ps2 software is via the BR drive firmware which will probably block the backup manager from being able to read imports.
    :dammit:
     
  8. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    It they don't go for a ban wave, i'm sure they'll somehow lock the ability of running any kind of code from the usb.

    If i'm not mistaken, on the same firmware you mentioned, sony added the ability of updating the PS3 without the user knowing it. So even if people don't try to update, it will be updated.

    By the way, Sony postponed the new firmware that was to be released this month (it would allow 3D Blu-ray support). That only seems like an indication they're working on something.
     
  9. DPyro

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    You'd need to patch liblv2.sprx
     
  10. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Again, if someone is so stupid as to go online with a pirated PS3&game running from the HDD, they deserve the fucking FBI knocking down their doors.
     
  11. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    But do we deserve that? Do we really need our FBI wasting time and OUR money picking on pirates for Sony, a foreign company? I don't think so.

    This will all play out similar to the PSP I imagine.
     
  12. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I wasnt serious about the FBI just trying to make a point: if you're using this to pirate a game (which is clearly something illegal to do) and you're dumb enough to go online as if you had the real/legal thing, you deserve anything that happens to you, from getting your console banned to being sued by sony.

    Is like robbing a bank: you cant go around telling people you did it, specially not to the actual bank!
     
  13. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    I don't agree with sued. But I do agree if you go online with it, it's pretty obvious what is going to happen. You can't complain. It's the same with Xbox 360. If you go online with a modded console, either JTAG or DVD Firmware modded, if you get banned oh well. You knew it could happen.
     
  14. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I'll rather see sony sue a guy for pirating games than for loading homebrew apps on whats essentially his own console...
     
  15. srob101

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    Actually if you use ABGX360 to stealth the DVD's you burn, you won't get banned.
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/514418
     
  16. Cooleo

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    I really hope this enabled linux/ps2 emulation on currently not available consoles. My teensy++ Usb is coming in the post next week.
     
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  18. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    It affects US companies too though, doesn't it?

    I'm not saying send the FBI, but it is worth pointing out.

    You can't enable PS2 emulation with a machine that does not have the feature already. It is missing the GPU from the PS2.
     
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  19. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Actually, you can still get banned. For one the discs you burn are only half the battle. The hacked firmware you use can be detected. Lite Touch is supposed to be undetectable if you use proper burns but I think it's too early to say that. You'll find out in November when MS usually bans consoles in waves probably to boost sales.
     
  20. jonest20

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    I think the exploit is now available for the PSP. Hoping an iPhone port comes out soon!
     
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