PSIO Supposedly Working

Discussion in 'Sony Programming and Development' started by billcosbymon, May 17, 2013.

  1. tails92

    tails92 Spirited Member

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    @cybdyn: I will tell you again that, no, I haven't left the PlayStation development scene. I also have many other things in life, and by the way, for your information the last release of PSXSDK dates to last month... not exactly old!

    And while the "who cares about PsyQ" reasoning might work for some little demo released on the internet, if you are going to sell a device with software made with PsyQ, they might well start to care.. especially lately the "Big Three" have not wasted any opportunity to make money, even with old stuff. For instance they have gone after people distributing FIFA'98 or selling used games... As the old saying goes, business is business...

    It is not like you are forced to use PsyQ anyway, there's my own PSXSDK which is free from these legal issues and, I would like this if I were you, can be tuned and modified exactly at your heart's content. There are still some quirks that need to be worked out... but we can work on it.

    I find the PSIO team's approach to homebrew daring and amusing at the same time... on psxdev.net there are even Virtual PC hard disk images with Windows XP and PsyQ preinstalled on them.

    See, this approach is another thing which makes doubts come in people's minds. If you aren't good enough at following a responsible, but easy to follow, approach, go figure if you are good enough at making a device like PSIO. Just saying..
     
  2. smf

    smf mamedev

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    If someone wants to copy it they will, any copies are likely to come from people they have upset than anyone doing it for financial gain.
     
  3. Mystical

    Mystical Resolute Member

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    exactly what i was thinking

    personally i think they should use Tails' SDK as at least they will not be pissing off Sony and might get an extra hand as Tails seems willing to help them utilize it (unless i read his post wrong)

    however as a programmer if you use someone else's code then you should meet the license terms that were included with the code, if you ignore them your a prick
     
  4. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    if the code from"open source" - so the author doesn't really care about destiny of his creature when show it to everyone, it doesn't make sense when it makes something "open" and says don't use it. sounds like scenario for episode of "the Simpsons".


    i really dont care where from code what i will use... cause i got code that everyone can find/download from inet... so dont Tell me the Tales from shame page of Tails)))
     
  5. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    The point of open source isn't so you can freely use it as you want. It's to allow for modification and improvement by anybody. You still have to follow a certain set of rules.

    If you want to be able to steal shit and use it as you want, find an SDK released under the wtfpl.

    CybDyn has a skewed vision of FOSS software and libs and has a "lol that law doesn't count here" mentality
     
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  6. master991

    master991 Enthusiastic Member

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    Again, learn GPL and open source what is it. And again, i don't need to read hall of shame and company ot know the real facts.

    It is fun to see when you're falling further and further down your arguments...
    I'll give you a little help;)
    that code is there on display just for show who is the real author and to avoid that you would have passed off as your interface.
    You did not change much for his game, there you are whisked to the fact that there has denied permission to use them (for the uninitiated, haunted has promptly deleted all the posts where gemini denied permission to use that source because haunted don't want the project INITIALLYopen source) and now you are looking for a thousand excuses to justify the entire thing.
    LOL
     
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  7. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    You are an idiot.

    GPL = use it all you like, but you have to upload your code too. Dont want to share your edits? dont use GPL code.

    Its not hard to grasp, no one is saying you cant use it. If you distribute something (free, paid, what ever) then you have to upload your modified versions source code.

    We are not talking about the code for the FPGA or what ever you are using, just the OS code thats come from the GPL code.

    http://jxself.org/translations/gpl-2.ru.shtml
     
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  8. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    what if my code consist of parts of gpl code, non gpl code, mine code, unknown author's code, code of FAT from somewhere of inet space... i should show only part of code where i used gpl code.. or all code cause i use gpl code...
    and what exactly gpl code is- file in witch header with license warnings ? or particular code constructions, structures, original sequences...

    i will see how ppl start ask about what code i used when psio will work succesful.
    tales from Tails)))
     
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  9. splith

    splith Resolute Member

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    We're not your handymen, go and read the license you need to comply with in your own time.
     
  10. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    i didnt say that i disagree with most points of view here, but i didnt find any reasons to dont use what i want to get it works.
     
  11. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    You are using members of this sites work without permission?

    Sounds like a reason to me.
     
  12. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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  13. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    well. i dont get what you mean , but i see i cant get something useful from discussion about nothing... i notice it's a general property of this site/forum

    better see next time, i'll try make XA support and increase speed of reading data. maybe discover how use SD mode.
     
  14. pool7

    pool7 Site Supporter 2014

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    @cybdyn
    As others said, you should take the time to read a LOT more about GPL and similar licenses (all that apply to the source code you may be using in your project).
    All your latest posts in this thread make it look like you're mixing GPL and Public Domain...
     
  15. smf

    smf mamedev

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    GPL code can only be linked to code released under licensed compatible with GPL.

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html

    If you want to link to any GPL code then you have to license your code under a compatible license & only use other peoples code if it was released under a compatible license. If someone has released their code under a license that is not compatible with GPL then you can ask them whether they will relicense it. If they won't or you can't contact them then you will have to go back and ask everyone who licensed their code under GPL whether they will licence it under the incompatible one.

    For something like this where you'll never recover enough money to make it worth your time, I'd be pushing as much code out to people as possible so I could go off and work on something that will earn money.
     
  16. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    after compilation everything will be mixed - how some one can understand that was part of gpl code - or this code was mine - how you see it after dissasembling ???

    more important from any "someone else code" is the idea, and code can be different at all....
    also i can't use only gpl - cause there no 100% "ready-to use" code that i can use without changes -
    and those changes should be big enough. it means in any case i spend quite much tome to get success version.

    so in result - it remaind me great words from "Tales of Tails" : ppl dont understand what they r talking about.,.
     
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  17. Gemini

    Gemini Retro developer

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    ^ In other words: "nobody will ever know, so I can link everything I want because binaries are impossible to recognize". Way to keep up with the childish attitude about how stuff really works with open source. Unfortunately for you, PSY-Q is quite easy to recognize with something like a flirt signature, and people who know how to disassemble stuff can easily spot stolen code as well due to the way gcc compiles.
     
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  18. master991

    master991 Enthusiastic Member

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    Without offense sir, but you are the best example of this words ;)
     
  19. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    ohhh i'm afraid ....no, i decided stop.

    psio never be done... thanks to Gemini? or Tails-Tales?

    i will made "true pages" with "story" like someone didnt give me make things done. every one must know - why i failed.

    you cant change my decision continue to work...
    donators - all questions to this couple
     
  20. pool7

    pool7 Site Supporter 2014

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    Although your last post may be ironic/sarcastic, it'd be for the better in real life.
    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see something like PSIO come to life, and I'd pay top dollar for it; but I rather see it become a reality from a developer that does not need to steal code, knows what he's talking about and can read and understand a license (and abide by it).
     
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