rant: i hate all new games

HOTD Overkill was fucking awesome. I like playing 2 player mode by myself, Wiimote in each hand. So. Fucking. Therapeutic.

I don't know if all new games are shite, but I'm certain that I haven't found as many good games that I enjoy a lot, lately - at least not as much as back when I was younger and enjoyed the shit out of the Super NES and PSX. Hell, the PS2 had so many gems...
The x360 and ps3... not so much.

I always wonder... is it me turning 30 and becoming bored and boring? or are games today really less good?

That being said, I loved FF13, and many people hated it a lot.
And I have found many great new games this generation... Just... Not as many as before... or is it that I haven't enjoyed them as much?
Also, I am a lot less skilled lately. Or are today's games just... different, in terms of the skills needed?

I fucking hate Halo 3, but I loved Fallout 3 and Batman Arkham Asylum - but lately I've realised I play a lot of fucking sequels. And some sequels really suck. Look at the new Front Mission, for crying out loud. Front Mission 3 was godly and we get a shitty 3rd person shooter for this generation? Fuck that.

Games today... I really don't know if they're less good, or there are less great games, or I'm just getting old and don't have enough time to get enough enjoyment out of them.

I really miss the 32 bit generation. Is it that games were better back then? Or is it that I enjoyed games more back then?

 

Add me on Xbox Live and we'll have a good time... lol...

 

I can sum up in one word what killed the RPG genre: Story. Take that as you will (cut scene, or just a bunch of shit I don't care about). Not sure what happened to all the other genres, but I can name a few things that make the more recent games bad compared to the old (on the whole).

-Games require almost no skill unless you're playing multiplayer
-They require more time per setting
-WTF happened to score?!
-2D matured ages ago, while 3D is just now lookingy stunning. I still like 2D better.
-Most shit now is drab turd to appeal to the masses. It's true of most forms of media -- games are no different.


I play a new game every now and again, but I never check for new releases and whatnot. I stopped being excited for new releases ages ago.

 

Then = quick fun but challanging arcade play.
Now = Full 3D interactive movie adventure in non-stop "24" length.

You choose!

 

QFDT!

 

This is off topic, but my dear Graciano, your "Recently Played Tracks" image in your signature deeply disturbs me...

Back to topic, I do believe that some standards have dropped, but there still are great videogames in production, and some awesome titles have been launched in the past years.

Being a hardcore Nintendo fan, I have to say I really would like to play BAYONETTA (After seeing the MEGA 64 video) and the Assasins Creed saga seems to be really good.

Regarding Nintendo itself, everybody knows they have their ups and downs, but they come up with great stuff from time to time. So great in fact, that I believe they compensate for the waiting.

 

lol!

Oh and Bayonetta rules! Easily in the top 10 best games this generation in my opinion. Loved that game...

 

I would have to throw out that what killed them for me is the fact you can't really just jump into them anymore. Most RPG's now suffer from always having to throw in some type of gimmicky game play mechanics that you're forced to learn, even if it doesn't necessarily make for a fun game.

On the off chance that some company does stick with what works people cry about the game not being innovative. Dragon Quest 8 for example is probably the last recent RPG I really enjoyed because it was a bit of a throw back to the RPG's of old. The saying "if it's not broke don't fix it" comes to mind. The whole "out with the old in with the new" capitalist mind set that's pushed around to drive sales of new products when the old ones work perfectly fine is pretty contagious.

Change isn't necessarily bad. I can't say it doesn't work for certain types of games but you don't always have to reinvent the wheel when the one you already have is still spinning just fine.

Think I just reached my monthly limit for old timey sayings all in one post.

 

Yeah. I remember playing Dragon Warrior 7 (PS1) and that game looked like shit and the gameplay mechanics (battle system) was ultra-mediocre..... I ended up logging over 200hours simply because I wanted to get every special item and was addicted to it.

Honestly, these games that I grew up with, and even games for the GC, PS2, and DC still had 'limited' hardware and developers pushed a lot out of them, which made for some great games.

Now you have wannabe PC consoles where there is a standard graphics platform where although it makes for an easy development environment, it also breeds much more mediocrity and less innovation in terms of pushing the system and really churning out a great game.

You have to rely on indie development to release worthwhile games and other small, lesser-known companies.

 

It's a matter of preference. Thankfully there's something for everyone, including emulated titles.

I personally like the Arcade feeling of games more, but that doesnt mean that I won't have my Super Mario and Zeldas. I can't stand too much drama in a story though, so Final Fantasy has been out of the question for most of my gaming time.

 

I didn't like Overkill too much. The graphics made me feel depressed (not literally, but you know what I mean), and I didn't think the B-movie theme was all that interesting/funny. I prefer the older games (especially HOTD2) over Overkill.

 

As a matter of fact it's the third time I started playing Assassin's Creed on PC and I always get bored in the first missions. I don't know if it's way too repetitive or I just don't have enough patience anymore...

Back to the topic, I feel many recent games are poor when it comes to replayability, having linear and too long stories (and some times repetitive too) that you definitely wouldn't play twice, and that's a shame since is something I love to do.

But there were some great titles recently too, the last games I liked a lot were Fallout 3 (mostly because of the huge variety of missions), Mirror's Edge (I just love this kind of fast-paced games) and Oblivion (same as Fallout 3). I haven't tried so many more recent titles yet anyway (lately I spent more time with the PC full of emulators and abandonware I have connected to my living room's TV than playing games in my PC).

I wouldn't say all recent games are crap, every generation had some excellent titles and some horrible and highly overrated ones.

 

I hate playing games, I find it hard to play them and get bored easily.


With that said, there are exceptions sometimes but I don't think games are better/worse than they used to be. Just different.

 

While I don't agree that new games are necessarily worse, couldn't agree more with this. Most new games just aren't possible to just "pick up and play" which sucks if you just want to play something quickly and don't have 3 hours to spend in one sitting. Score is pretty much the best way to increase replay value at least for me — I'll play almost anything with a score display and online leaderboard more than other games.

As for the 3D thing, I still think 3D shouldn't really have been used until the PS2 gen. We could've have another generation of awesome-looking 2D gaming instead of most of the games from that era being pixellated 3D turds that have aged extremely badly (and it took almost an entire gen to figure out that 3D platformers inherently suck because you can't tell where you're jumping). Just compare Symphony of the Night to Tomb Raider and anyone will probably see what I mean.

Mostly you're right, but Commando on C64 is better than the arcade version, and not just because of the music. And Atari 2600 era games are pretty much what I consider "too old to be playable today" anyway.

 

And for that, we have (and have had for a long time) emulators.... often (usually?) the free version being a more accurate representation than the commercial.

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Fair enough. Good points.

 

I like turtles.

 

You should check out the "Etrian Odyssey" series. Best new franchise of the past decade, old-school dungeon RPGing with minimal (but not nonexistent) story.
In general I just can't really bring myself to play hugely long story-driven RPGs very often. It's a bigger commitment than I'm usually in the mood for.

This I don't agree with though. Did anyone really care that Mario scored 100 points by stomping on that goomba? Most games don't need a score.

 

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That about sums up my thoughts on the matter. There are still new games coming out that I enjoy to be sure, but the last game to breach my top 10 came out in 2002 (Morrowind).

 

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That about sums up my thoughts on the matter. There are still new games coming out that I enjoy to be sure, but the last game to breach my top 10 came out in 2002 (Morrowind), with everything else on that list being on the Saturn, NES and SNES.

 

This forum needs a #Im Enebriated thread