Scammer warning: Raylyd caught selling copies of GDR (dreamcast) betas

I think his problems may not lie with his understanding of writing. But his understanding of morals.

 

I have friends who have Aspergers', and you do have to accept the fact that sometimes they have issues handling things that are morally wrong but don't harm anybody in the physical sense.

I'm personally of the opinion that Rayld needs a slap on the wrist for what he's done and being so secretive about it, and I suspect Sneakypeanut needs a slap on the wrist too for his actions in this 'plot' and not acting as a friend to help, but at the end of it (ignoring the ones the GDRs that have caused issue in the past) the copied GDRs in question were not sold, they were given away with the System Disc and the buyer understood this was the case.

What Rayld will have to live with is that he will never be able to sell any betas or burned discs in this community again without judgement. I would be more enamored with the idea of a temporary marketplace ban than a full site permanent ban.

To be honest, I would feel it unfair to judge Rayld any different from Robert_Kendo in this case as they both dodged questions and avoided giving the facts straight - and actually I think in the latter case we as a community were lied to in order to make it look like the buyer was the bad guy. In other words, I don't really feel Rayld should be straight-up banned.

(In case anybody asks: I don't know Rayld. We live in the same city, but outside of his posts here I know nothing about him.)

 

il go cry in a corner now, i wont bover helping any one again seeing as i just get flamed my self, i have nothing todo with the plot i was just helping ray out as a friend. mooseblaster go give ray a slap he dosnt live far from you lol. i also have ASD so i guess i couldnt really help either.

 

Sigh.

People sure are leaning on their disorders at the minute. Not to be unsympathetic here but we get pushed and pushed to treat everyone equally but as soon as something goes tits up, it doesn't take long for a medical scapegoat to appear.

The marketplace rules are 100% set in stone.

They have been broken.

IF his condition affects his moral/legal judgement then he shouldn't be using the forums without supervision from someone who does understand the rules.

I think personal opinion, past records and friendships are tainting the real matter at hand here.

Therefore under the eyes of equality I think the punishment should be issued as it if it were given to anybody else who had done the same thing.

If that doesn't happen I intend to start selling pirate games on the forums and if anyone calls me on it...well my left ear is smaller than my right ear. The changes in aerodynamics and weight distribution fucked up my judgement. Sorry people.

 

mer i dont lean on my disorders they are shortcoming yes but i dont expect to be treated any different for them, all i was really saying what my perspective is with someone with the same condition really. i just feel banning ray wont accomplish anything really

 

I've been following this topic, and from what I've read I agree that banning Raylyd from the forums wouldn't show him anything, and he's probably just sell them to someone else. So a ban from the marketplace (temp or permenant) would most likely be the way to go.

But have the rules really been broken?

While it makes sense to state that you're selling a clone of an original, I didn't read anywhere that you must make it clear you're selling a clone.

That's my interpretation of the rules, just trying to contribute to the discussion.

 

we need to change this thread from should ralyd be banned for selling copies of gdrs, to the aspergers defense , i just saying "and please don't get mad" the disease aspergers has been mentioned alot , and is ralyd main defense , though i don't know the guy , something i was always told about my adhd problems: "is not to blame your mistake no matter how big, on your desease ,man up and a take credit where credit is due".

raylyd you made your bed now you got to sleep in it.

 

Retracted.

 

How often do we see <50 post members posting in the for sale section?
Then there's the occasional disagreement that escalates into flaming, and then threads in the wrong topic, and then ...well, you get the point.

If breaking the rules = ban, then the ol' banhammer should be swinging in all directions.

 

All I can say is if it were my site, hell yeah this guy would be banned. You have to go through a bit of trouble to have the proper equipment and be fully prepared to be burning off GR-Rs. Especially with how unresponsive and misleading he's been with fessing up to much of this, I can't buy the idea of someone being unaware of what they're doing. I would be pretty pissed that this was going on in my forums. No exceptions.

 

I'm with Bramsworth. This situation is as clear cut as it can get. The moderators asked a direct question to the effect of: "Are these originals from a developer, or are they your reproductions burned with your own hardware?".

If your not trying to bullshit, you answer directly "Yes, these are original." or "No, these are my backups I made. I'll mark/deface the disk so they can't be misconstrued as originals in the future". Case closed.

By purposely being deceptive or not cooperating... What's the point? And if your making backups, why would you mark the date of the disks the date the originals were burned, and not the date the new backup were made? Honest people would not do this. Honest people would not try to imply or mislead (directly or indirectly) that backups are originals - and the buyer should not have to ask this. Any person with honest intentions has no reason to act or do anything other than answer directly and up front. If it takes this much teeth pulling just to get this cleared up, then what stops others from taking advantage of the forum and moderators?

 

Personally the Asprger defence has come up, but as a mod and as I have it too, I still knew it was wrong.

One of the things that must be taken into consideration is that Asperger type people pretty much never lie due to an almost pathological sense of honesty - but they do misunderstand.

raylyd stated he never scammed anyone because as far as he knew he wasn't doing anything wrong - a GD-R is a GD-R to him. Obviously you and I know different and if he doesn't know the rules must still be upheld, but still it is almost cruel to have to do so to someone without a clue, especially now the situation is resolved, the replicas will be defaced and the buyer will be happy with the originals + SYSTEM-DISC 2.

This does not mean I condone his actions, just that it is difficult to condemn him, though he does deserve a slap.

 

I'd give a slap on the wrist for unnecessary wasting of these special discs. Once all used up, that's it. No more GD-R burns for anybody. GD-Rs and burners are not something most can go find at their local shop.

 

People did major chargebacks too - I only saw two eBay sales and both filed claims. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever dumped the discs had a full refund too.

 

yes he got a refund

http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41786&start=30#p895326

 

did Raylyd ever actually work at Sega?

also why has noone called into question whether this guy really has a disease or not, I'm not trying to be a dick but if we're gonna question whether hes an upright guy or not maybe his disease excuse should be questioned too

 

AFAIK raylyd never claimed to work at Sega. Also medical documents are confidential and don't expect to have the right to ever see any medical information which is not your own.

Whilst raylyd has not proven his condition(s), such things are to be taken on good faith and his behaviour is consistent with his claims. None of you will ever see proof I have ASD, that my brain was damaged in a crash or that I'm fucked up as a result, but it harks back to good faith.

The calls to see proof of raylyd's disability end here as it will not happen nor will I allow it, nor does any board member regardless of status have a right to view them.

BTW I'm not against people reading my information when I am present in person, but there is no way they will ever be published and there is no way anyone would have an automatic right to see them outside of the law, especially not on some message board to settle a dispute regardless of circumstances.

It is a shitty situation I'll grant you that, but on the same token it is shitty to release the beta once you got a full refund so meh - no one is is in the right here, it is just one big fuckup through and through and hopefully all inolved learn from it and it won't happen again.

 

well said legit

 

hmmm interesting stuff, looks like he has already had a slap on the wrist by losing out on the discs and the money he would have been paid, dont agree with what he did but i would say losing a couple of thousand dollars (if i read everything correctly) is a kick in the teeth itself and i would say he has probably learnt his lesson