Some protos (including Crash Bandicoot 1)

Lol, complaining about other people releasing bootlegs of his protos and then doing the exact same thing to other people. Talk about double standards... ASSMEbler is right though...

 

I don't get why drx is in the wrong. If he's got a release it's up to him what private information he releases. The seller on the other hand, if he guranteed that the 'bonus' release wasn't shared with anyone then he is at fault. Drx has limited to no connection to another buyer...

I feel bad for you Denryu, but I do think you should be more angry at your seller. It's up to drx if he gives you info on his protos prior to release, we don't have the rights to demand info off him. If he gave false info then thats not great, but still his poragative.

 

I think too if what Denryu said is true then seller is at fault (member here). But also maybe should be named. If what he said about drx is true as well, then I don't know. Like you said, I think drx can do whatever he wishes, but it seems he knew Denryu's situation but didn't care anyway, and that is my point, that people don't seem to care anymore. But, whatever.

 

and soo the story continues...................

 

Does it really matter? It looks like nobody's source is reliable (the original), if more than one person has it. They have the right to release it regardless of others having it. You really should be blaming the first person who had it and gave it away to multiple people rather than the generous individual who released it to the public free of charge.

 

Yep, like I said, what has been done cannot be made undone.

The reason I'm bringing this up here is only because drx was acting completely untrustworthy (see my previous posts). This is just a warning to all the people who plan to spend money for something to be kept private.

I do realize the original source is the person to blame, but I will do that in private messages, because he might get into legal trouble if his identity is revealed. This game is still compatible with the current generation of games, so it's a pretty big issue.

 

Spending money to keep something 'private' is fine by me, but don't knock the guy who spends money and doesn't want to keep things 'private'.

DRX has released some incredible protos in recent years and I don't think it's fair to knock him at all... Truth is, if only more people were like DRX - the world would be a lot better place. (I'm sure many others here also agree)

Only two people benefit from a 'private' release and that's the buyer/seller - I'm still struggling to see how that's considered a good thing for the rest of the community?

Answers on a postcard, please.

 

I never said it's a good thing for the rest of the community. Most of deals here are being done without a public release to follow. I don't see your point.

 

I think it needs to be seen from drx's pov too though. I could come up to him and say I have a proto and if he has the same one he can't release it. He knows I have the proto and I could have sold my grandma for it... should that stop him doing what he wants to do with the proto he aquired? Both people have the same rights with the proto (realistically none).

I agree that Denryu possibly being mislead is bad, but what reason might drx have done that for? The only two I can see is to hold back a scenario of him being had ago at for holding a proto the same as someone else... or to protect the seller who may have asked to be kept private (if he's a good source would you want to burn your bridge for future releases?). Heck in theory drx could have had a different version and got confused he handles a lot of protos. It sucks, but the seller is at fault and it's the risk of getting protos, nothing is certain.

Drx thanks for the releases it's much appreciated.
Denryu I'm sorry that you got screwed over - can understand your anger but I agree with assembler that at the moment it feels slightly misplaced.

 

For those of us yet to d/l the releases (thanks DRX, regardless of this ensuing drama), what is the bonus?

 

Then our conversation ends just about.... here.

 

Private sales keep the interest in the community alive and the possiblity of public releases a possibility. There are people here to make money - that's down to them - while as leechers (if you're like me and don't have money for protos and jsut download we pretty much are aren't we?) we get the odd gift for our interest in the community.

 

But I think Denryu just wanted to check with drx if what they both had was the same (because Denryu thought it might of come from the same person), but drx possibly mislead him. Why do that?

If drx bought his version also, then it is different. But what if Denryu paid much money for his, but then after seller sent it drx for free (after promising not to give it anyone)? This would be even worse. Being given something for free and still not being sympathetic or caring for Denryu situation.

I guess I'm just missing something. But I don't want to thank somebody for a release if maybe it is hiding something, or that person is misleading people when there seems no reason to.

 

Yeah, I think KH2 doesn't have a debug menu, but like you said, its been a while since it was dumped. Geluda, I released a Re: Chain of Memories prototype a while back that was in the middle of being localized, so while the first half of the game has all English voiceacting, it becomes less English towards the end. It has a full debug menu. You can see videos on Youtube.

And of course, since I forgot to say it, thanks for the releases drx. Much appreciated as always, despite what others seem to be saying.

 

I did not get it for free, I paid for it.

I explained the situation privately to Denryu, so that's that.

 

Just had a chance to talk to drx and learned that he was not getting this file for free, but also paid for it. At first he also didn't know that there were multiple copies of it. He denied and lied about it to protect the seller or so he said. But then he eventually found out it's spreading which led to this release.

I guess if drx was also paying for this and at this time was only trying to protect the source, he's not the one to blame here at all.

Nobody knows how many people our original source really sold it to while telling everyone he was the only one to get it. :clap:

 

Then my feelings are different. Thank you!

 

Debug-enabled German-language Pokemon Ruby for GBA, with many debugging and testing functions (testing battles, creating Pokemon manually, giving items, changing time/weather/etc., setting Pokedexes as complete, and so on)

 

Seems like we have one seller selling multiples of the same and what seems to be a slightly different one to another person. A name and shame may be in order.