Sonic Adventure is hitting XBLA

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  1. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    And people who think these are running via emulation are as well assuming and pull it out of their ass. There is a far better chance the games are ports. If you want to live the dream that it's all emulation then feel free to enjoy the fantasy in your mind.

    I do eventually think sega will hopefully/ultimately turn to full on dreamcast emulation for other games but at the current time there is no evidence to point these two games to being emulation.
     
  2. Vosse

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    I'm not assuming, I'm not ruling out the possibility.
    You automatically make it sound like it's Impossible for it to be anything else other than what you think it is.

    Until there are Cold Hard Facts set in stone as to what something is. Automatically assuming what you think is not the thing to do.



    Why so hostile?
     
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  3. JamesMichael

    JamesMichael Light Hearted Drunk

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    Well according to Sega they plan on releasing 19-24 Dreamcast titles on PSN and XBLA by next summer so JSR is guaranteed to happen. What other titles are people hoping for? And don't say Shenmue ;)
     
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    I'm not trying to be hostile but my bread and butter is being an engine programmer (and I tend to do platform porting work). I don't think its impossible but I don't think it's reasonable or logical.

    Which is more logical (for being the first games out of a collection)
    1. Sega dug up the DC versions of the Source, modified them to update for changes, rebuilt them as DC ISO/Games, Build a fully working DC emulator for two/three platforms (that has to run full speed) and will do all this work for a game that will sell for $10
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    2. Sega took already ported versions of the game and ported them to PS3/360 (CT from the not so long ago PSP Port, Sonic DX from it's PC/GCN port).

    If they where going for #1, I'd bring out far more then two titles (both which are not launching at the same time) to make up for the $$$ investment for the DC emulator.

    I do think we will eventually get DC emulation out of sega but I just do not see it in both of these titles. Hell sega owns a saturn emu that was licensed out for two PSP titles (Devil Summoner & Princess Crown) yet they haven't done anything with it them selves.

    :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Alchy

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    Sonic and Crazy Taxi are likely to be ports, but if 19-24 Dreamcast titles really are coming over the next year then there's going to be an emulator in there somewhere.
     
  6. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirlâ„¢

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    Were there another "19-24" Dreamcast games released for other platforms - preferably the PC - that could be ported in a similar way to Crazy Taxi or Sonic Adventure? Who said anything about emulation? Remember, this IS the Sega of late we're talking about, and emulating sounds far too much like hard work!
     
  7. Alchy

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    Using an emulator would be much less work than digging up archaic Dreamcast source code for that number of games and porting them all to modern systems.

    If they have modern source code available (as they do for the two we're talking about) then they'll use them. If they want to bring swathes of games over, an emulator will be cheaper and easier.
     
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  8. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    Your comment sums up what Sega is today. :thumbsup:
     
  9. Treamcaster

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  11. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    TBH I had no hope on this "guess who's coming back" campaign, since I knew that as rotten as segammy is there was no way it would be something to be excited about.

    Note that they could just reach an agreement with the nullDC team and work on that for an emu that supports HD and 16:9 on X360 and PS3. With that working you can make a Dreamcast-as-a-service were you can download any games that were available.

    But of curse they wont, nor they will make a new port with actual HD textures and such which would add a lot of value to the game, segammy will just repack the same shit like years ago.
     
  12. Treamcaster

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    I wish the new sega emulator (if they ever create one) gets LEAKED and people start hacking PSN and XBLA so sega can get the same feeling as they did 10 years ago with Kalisto/ Eurasia/ Echelon and stop bragging about a fresh return when it's not.
     
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    Pretty much all of Sega's DC games were eventually ported to other platforms.
     
  14. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    You crazy? that was a BIG hit for the DC, pretty much what all the naysayers needed to finally condemn the platform.

    A better example IMO is the first N64 emus back in 98
     
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    I was kinda joking, however I was true on the emu being leaked... wouldn't it rock?
    You can always dump your original DC bios + original GDs so you would not be doing anything illegal (besides playing on an unreleased emu, but that's just a detail).
     
  16. Alchy

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    I wouldn't rule it out, Sega did exactly that with the Girigiri Saturn emulator - bought the rights to it and made an online pay-to-download store (Japan-only as I recall). That was a while ago, mind.
     
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  17. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    Don't let Sony hear you, or they'll remove the PSN just like they did with the OtherOS feature :lol:
     
  18. Vosse

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    I would not care for that much seeing as the audio with all the games in Null DC sound is buggy and sounds terrible
     
  19. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    You can't rule out anything, at least not completely, on a big corporation like segammy.

    All it takes for them to make a console again (regular or portable) is the right memo reaching the board, saying theres big money on CEs now (which is actually true considering how things were years ago) and that they should get into it.

    Then again in japan you have tons of stuff that never make it outside...
     
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    Uh... I think it's safe to assume that if Sega did licence NullDC they'd develop it before using it commercially.
     
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