What does that means? that becos it is made of PC parts is not a console? Then you could also say is plain bad becos is not japanese made but american, but wait! I heard one of the engineers of the Xbox is black! that means the console is bad cuz is made by an inferior race! [sacarsm/off] Dude, the PS2 is a train wreck in terms of both engineering and programing, and while the xbox is not a marvel it does stand better. And if you mean PC games ports, well I still have to see all those ports people is talking about, because only a few games are PC only ports, like HL2, Doom, etc... The rest could be considered multi-platform since they are available in many systems.
Ok shadow, allow me to explain myself further... PS2 has orginal titles, xbox never felt like it's own system due to the fact, whatever PS2 had was/is ported over to xbox. Don't get me wrong Microsoft does have orginal content, PGR,Halo series, Conkers. Other then Halo there, was never really a hit that xbox had that made it the console to own, other then the fact of throwing a mod chip in the unit and using it as a media center. Don't get me wrong Xbox is a powerful system and yes I admit more so then PS2, but power didnt help them win last gen war. If it wasent for xbox Live the system would have tanked upon arrival.
Don't know. I'm sure if Bernie Stolar and Peter Moore could do it all over again, they'd have gone platform agnostic from 1998-on instead of releasing the DC. I guess much of it was due to pride from the Japanese arm of the company along with high hopes that they could turn things around.
The Playstation may be the series of consoles with the less quantity of original games in history. The diference is that sony practically invented the concept of content exclusivity, and that is payin to get the game first or forever. M$ has Bungie, Rare, and their very own studios. What does sony has? exclusivity contracts that is, but only like 5 or 6 games are 100% sony as Halo is to M$. And LIVE? dude the ratio of Xboxs conected to live is 2 for every 10, were does the service plays such a high role that without it the system would be condemned?
Less original games? What about Wipeout? Destruction Derby? Winning Eleven? Shadow of Collosus? Vib Ribbon (Vib Ripple, Mojib Ribbon) ? Ape Escape? Katamari Damacy? Fantavision? EYE TOY Games? Onimusha? Devil May Cry? Disaster Report? Kingdom Hearts? ... i could go on, and probably would stil miss lots of good quality and original games. Sony invented the concept of content exclusivity? I think you meant to say Nintendo, right? M$ has bungie and Rare. The only stuff they did for the original Xbox was HALO, HALO 2 and CONKERs, am i right? only 3 games. I totally agree about LIVE. LIVE is great, even better on the 360.
Hm... i remember atari going to court to keep exclusivity, but there are probably earlier examples. Exclusive titles have always been part of the business, it would be hard to say what company started that trend. Microsoft owns quite a few developers who made games such as: Forza, Halo, Halo 2, Top Spin (which was later sold), NFL Fever 2002/03/04, there was some baseball title that i can't remember, microsoft owned a controlling partnership over oddworld inhabitants but later sold out, I'm not convinced that microsoft doesn't own a minority stock share in Tecmo... i'm sure i'm missing some too. Bottom line, microsoft probably owns as many studios as sony. Mind you, i'm not really a fanboy of either side, i think all three current consoles are pretty cool for their own reasons. I've probably put the same number of hours into Disgaea as i have Ninja Gaiden, i've probably put the most hours this generation into Need for Speed: Underground on the cube. Can't we all just agree that all three consoles suck, each in their own special way?
Well since PA and mr.casual did all the rest of the questions, I'll take this one: Nope, what nintendo did was more like a monopolic-mafia kind of deal where they pay you shit (nothing) and if you went and publish a game on another console like the SMS they would ban you from releasing it (or any more games) on the Nes. Sony invented the concept of payin developers for exclusivity when they payed psignosis to release Wipeout and destruction derby 8 months before than in Saturn.
So Nintendo "mafia-kind" of monopoly is better than Sony paying a game developer to develop games for them (and not let them die like many others did.) Guerrila Games, Rockstar (like it or not), Criterion, and many others got succesfull because of Sony. I would not even mention Polyphony Digital, that started small, making games like MotorToon GP and OmegaBoost, and now makes the best racing game in any console (yes, i like Forza, but it's not as good as GT). Please don't think i'm trying to defend Sony. But i don't like to hear incoherent information.
Johnny, many key points have have been made, I've givin up on this go no where topic. Like Ive stated before it is a ''trendy'' thing to hate Sony and jump on another band waggon. All the cool kids are doing it -_-
So, where's the evil Sony? GTA Series, Winning Eleven, Final Fantasy, ... all avaiable in other consoles.
Sony got the upper hand so far, only because of great lineup of games on his console and the easy way to play for free on the original Psx (that helped a lot maket penetration ). Anyway, i'll do as i always did before; i go where are the games i like. and that makes, Final Fantasy Winning Eleven Gran Turismo Various RPG Soul Calibur/edge/ whatever will it be Dragon Quest 2d fighters a la KOF.... so how could i not be with sony? sony won because managed to appeal a wider set of users with his releases. I'm waiting to see in wich console square-enix will pour most of his efforts to choose my next generation console.... but i'm 90% sure it won't be xbox360.... it seems it's goping the same way as the first xbox
I think there quite a difference between being paid and being extorted to do so. And we are not discussing if the PS2 is good or bad but the hype that sony has used to promote their consoles. Read the title next time.......
Karsten, as far as I am concerned you have hit the proverbial nail on the head. The reason I like my ps2, is not because of hardware features, or graphics, etc. It is just the best platform in terms of its ability to appeal to "a wider set of users". With a wide range of genres. Screw the emotion engine or the fact it may be impossible to code for, it has almost every genre covered and bloody well at that. As far as the end result is concerned Sony creates an environment that delivers great games. The hardware may be weak in places, but it is the strong support which carries it - which I'm sure Sony can take the credit for, it doesn't just happen overnight. However there are also examples of the power of the PS2 - glance at Genji with its awesome graphics. And almost perfect arcade conversions like neowave and espgaluda. If one looks at my games buying I have already brought over 30 ps2 games this year. In my collection are hundreds more, lets not forget the psone as well (more hundreds). My xbox collection is 11 total. 360 = 4. There is a reason for this, it is not a matter of which console is better or worse, it is about selection of games and Sony have got the best selection at the moment for my money. Heaven help us if Sony actually deliver a solid piece of hardware this coming gen... (Hype is just opinions - always given with the possibility of retraction. Take them as facts at your own expense. Sony does good hype. Is that any reason to blame them?)
Hey man, no need to be agressive. Like i said i'm not protecting or defending Sony. Yes, i already agreed that Sony hyped their console a lot. And yes, i hate their attitude. But honestly i don't think they "won" just because that hype. Ex: I got my PS2 only 2 years after it's release. Mostly because Gran Turismo 3. I agree that lots of people bought it because it was a "next gen" console (good or bad, would not matter), a DVD Player + PS1 game support. Anyway, all these posts i made quoting was to correct some of your opinions. I don't want to change opinions from no one here, but to give a different view of some facts. :thumbsup:
yeah they do all suck except the intellivision or was it colecovision. They had the smurf's game on them.
