The Political thread ... rant away.

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  1. guster11

    guster11 Spirited Member

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    That was my backup plan, thankfully we have avoided disaster.
     
  2. marcm

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    My wife said the same damn thing.
     
  3. guster11

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    Honestly I think a lot of people were thinking the same thing, we honestly were heading back to the Bush days has we elected Romney.
     
  4. marcm

    marcm Spirited Member

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    Yes
     
  5. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I don't know about you guys but thanks to this and the "Obama Care" medical bills, me and my grandparents might as well as be killed now. They're gonna cut off our medications since they're retired and I'm disabled.

    I NEED FUCKING INSULIN TO LIVE GOD-FUCKING-DAMN-IT!!!

    Now it's gonna go away because I "take away from the system" not "put into the system".

    It was nice knowing you guys while it lasted.

    I'm fucked...
     
  6. marcm

    marcm Spirited Member

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    :encouragement:
     
  7. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I have no idea what you're talking about. Obamacare doesn't restrict who can be covered by insurance. It does exactly the opposite: it extends who can be covered by insurance.
     
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  8. 7Force

    7Force Guardian of the Forum

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    Funny how in the end the election wasn't even close, the only swing state Romney managed to win was NC.
     
  9. Vosse

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  10. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    I think you may have lost me somewhere: the Affordable Healthcare bill covers the following:

    * Healthcare support for low-income families (i.e.: below the 400% poverty line gets subsidies towards healthcare)
    * Insurance companies must take on people even if they have prior issues, and cannot drop them just because they get sick.
    * Reducing the cost of medicines by allowing generic-brand medicine to be approved by the FDA
    * Increasing the amount of money you can rebate on medicine (from 17.1% up to 23.1%)
    * Attempting to reduce healthcare costs for retirees & people who can't afford current medical bills

    The only possible downside I see in your position is the '3-month check-up for chronic illnesses' policy where they will review your medical issues every 3 months to see where you stand health-wise. Even the negative point surrounding savings accounts not allowing the purchase of non-prescription drugs doesn't apply to insulin. Obviously, I understand you know better on the matter being in the position you are, but personally I cannot clearly see what points on the 'Affordable Healthcare' bill are to your detriment.

    I recall the Republicans made a big song and dance over what they claimed to be 'murder panels', but it was just 'headline-grabbing' nonsense to make the '3-month checkup' point sound really scary and, more importantly, deadly - when actually, it's a darn site better and more caring to your issues than what you currently have, where you get 'sentenced to death' if you're not financially viable to the business that pays your medical bills. I'd expect that, as a disabled person with a clearly chronic illness, you have relatively little to be concerned about in terms of panels as it'll be clear from both medical and physical tests you have issues, and it's mostly the people with 'invisible illnesses' such as minor mental issues or chronic fatigue that'll be most in trouble.

    The Republicans hate 'Obamacare' not because it's to the detriment of the people, but more likely because - as many of them are high-level shareholders for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies most affected by the policy - they are scared it'll be them that will be out of pocket rather than being bankrolled by your sickness.

    You do seem quite agitated over the issue, though, so obviously I've missed a crucial point here. You don't have to say exactly your conditions, but I'd like it if you could tell me what point on the 'Affordable Healthcare' policy is going to affect you the most, because obviously the media have glossed over it. I don't mean to intrude on your personal life, just interested; that's all.
     
  11. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    It's gonna be an issue for me personally because I have type 1 diabetes, autism, and on disability. I've read the fine print on the Obama Care bill. On the outside it looks like it supports those with disability and retirees. Reality is the 3 month "overview checkup) is to determine if someone is costing more money than they bring into the US treasury. If so, Obama has set a group up to grant or deny health care. If some one is 75 or older it has been said the chances of them getting expensive medication or life saving surgery are slim to none. So my grandfather will be dead soon. His meds cost $2,000 + a month to the insurance. Then me. I need insulin to live. From my understanding, disability SSI is going down hill and Medicare with it. So if I don't get denied by the health board for "taking from the system" instead of "putting into the system" then the bankruptcy Medicare will most likely suffer will put the kibosh on my life. I can work at a job put no one gives a fuck about autism. They see me as a weirdo after 1 or 2 months and say "What the fuck dude?! GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!"

    That's my problem with Obama. I don't give a fuck about the rest of his bullshit ideas since they won't kill me. This most likely will.

    Side point: anyone care to explain why the US debt has quadrupled in size since 2008? Can't blame it on inflation since that has only doubled prices on shit in the most extreme cases.

    If I'm wrong on this give me some hardcore proof. I've seen the bills myself. I've read through the hundreds of pages. This is my interpretation of it once you get past the lawyers' twisty words.
     
  12. madhatter256

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    What section and line does it say in the real bill that you will be denied insurance if "someone is costing more money than they bring into the US treasury"?

    The only reason the US debt went up so high because the "pass the buck" methodology of our past presidents finally caught up with us. Bush tax cuts were SUPPOSED to be suspended first thing in 2008, but they got extended instead and that is when things snowballed into what it is now. Then the healthcare bill added to that, too.

    Oh well, regardless of who is president, the poor will still be poor and the rich will still be rich.
     
  13. APE

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    Even if we are no better or no worse off I'm just pleased seeing Karl Rove flip his wig and to see what new crazy crap the conservatives will dream up for Obama to do/have done.

    Haven't seen any FEMA/UN trucks coming to round us up to be stuck into camps for forced conversion to Islam. Nor have I seen this "New World Order" take hold I was promised would happen if Obama was reelected. Maybe I'll have to wait until he is sworn in?

    I'm also hoping that Romney's loss will cause the Republican party to reevaluate themselves and maybe stop being such finger pointing assholes. Stop a bill in the house from going to senate? Obama's fault. Something good happens? WE DID IT NOT HIM! The whole birth certificate "controversy" is racism as far as I'm concerned (never had this problem before and never before have we had a president with skin darker than a beige envelope. Sure coincidences happen but the Tea Party isn't the brightest bunch).

    Romney's positions before the election almost made him palatable as a candidate but once he got momentum it was clear he would change position to suit whatever would get him into the White House even if it meant burning the flag on the steps of congress and pissing it out. The only thing I don't like more than a neo-Con (or the equivalent ultra left winger) is a puppet. Someone has their hand so far up Romney's ass that they're literally playing tonsil hockey.
     
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  14. Teancum

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    Honestly it doesn't matter who wins. I've always seen this being about when we want to collapse not if we want to collapse. As far as running a budget Romney would hands down be better but I wouldn't say that he would solve the problem just prolong it. And don't even start with the whole "The rich need to pitch in more take the strain off the middle class and we'll be able to solve our budget problems" because it's not going to happen. The nice thing is that when it comes down to it we are headed for an economic collapse and the American people decided they would like to head off the cliff at 80 MPH (Obama) instead of 65 MPH (Romney). Honestly I put more hope in states nullifying federal law. More states legalizing Marijuana and more states refusing to participate in Obama care. The thing is if you want to do universal health care and socialism that is completely fine go do it in your state. If you want free health care, high taxes on the rich move to California, Oregon, New York (insert Blue state here) and push it through there. If you want less taxes less services move to Texas, Utah, (insert red state here). The fact of the matter is it wouldn't be nearly as bad if we could afford health care (Socialist Democrats) or afford 3 wars against countries that might hurt us or countries that are trying to over throw a dictator (Neo Con Republican) it won't make a damn difference at all because one day we will be out of money and we won't be able to afford to carry out either sides crazy freedom killing plans.

    but hey that's just my two cents.
     
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  15. seemoremacstuff

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    Just my reasons on why Obama should not have been reelected
    1. Continued the practice of indefinite detentions for alleged terrorists without review (link, link)
    2. Dropped threat to veto NDAA (link) and signed it, encoding severe government power advances into law (link)
    3. Announced “Withdrawal Plan” that leaves more troops in Afghanistan than when he started (link)
    4. Authorized military intervention in Libya without the approval of Congress (link)
    5. Did this after emphatically stating as a presidential candidate that the president did not have the authority to do that (link)
    6. Defended intervention in Libya by redefining the word “hostilities” (link)
    7. Revived “Prompt Global Strike” weapons system, considered too controversial by Bush Administration (link)
    8.Announced a $60 billion sale of arms to the Saudi Arabian dictatorship, the largest arms deal in history (link)
    9. Sold arms to abusive Bahrain regime and used legal loophole to avoid telling Congress about it (link)
    10. Granted a waiver allowing four countries to continue receiving US military aid even though they use child soldiers (link)
    11. Argued that the widespread use of Predator drones is a justifiable form of self-defense (link)
    12. Claims ACTA could be ratified without Congressional approval and that it would override US law (link)
    13. Ordered drone attacks in Yemen (link)
    14. Ordered a cruise missile and cluster bomb attack in Yemen that killed women and children, suppressed the civilian casualties, and then imprisoned a journalist who revealed the truth (link)
    15. Would seek international permission for intervening in Syria before consulting Congress (link)
    16. Broke promise to reject the Military Commissions Act (link)
    17. Continuing policy of maintaining thousands of troops at over a thousand military bases around the world (link)
    Honorable Mention: Backed off on his promise to close the prison at Guantanamo (link) (Yes, I know you can blame Congress for this. But he backed away from it while Democrats still controlled Congress, and his promise to close Guantanamo was often cited as a reason to vote for him.)
    Civil Liberties and Homeland Security
    18. Authorized the assassination of US citizens abroad, an unprecedented declaration of executive power (link)
    19. Says American citizens can be targeted for killing without judicial review (link)
    20. Assassinated an American citizen without due process (link) (Yes I know he was a terrorist who wanted to kill me, but the government can make mistakes and I don’t want the government having the power to make mistakes about killing American citizens with no limits)
    21. Two weeks later, assassinated that citizen’s 16-year-old son (link)
    22. Announced the rules about assassinating American citizens, basically telling the other branches of government whats its own limitations are (link)
    23. Requested thousands of secret spying warrants (link)
    24. Defended the use of warrantless wiretapping (link)
    25. Tried to stop the Supreme Court from hearing a challenge of warrantless wiretapping (link)
    26. Pushed to overhaul federal law making it easier to wiretap (link)
    27. Refused to declassify a secret memo regarding the president’s power for warrantless spying (link)
    28. Defended the use of warrantless GPS vehicle tracking, which was ruled unconstitutional (link)
    29. Continued and expanded Bush’s police state (link) (You could really make multiple reasons from all the examples in this article)
    30. Allowed TSA to continue and expand its outrageous security theater (link)
    31. Specifically requested additional money for more TSA full-body scanners (link)
    32. Helped pay for surveillance of Muslim neighborhoods (link)
    33. Unaccountable, unjustifiable drug war spending (link)
    34. Heavy crackdown on medical marijuana (link)
    35. Raided Gibson Guitar Factory without filing charges (link)
    36. Supports mandatory DNA testing of those arrested for crimes, regardless of whether they have been convicted (link)
    37. Allowed weapons to pass into the hands of Mexican drug cartels which were later linked to deaths of American border patrol agents (link)
    38. Sealed records on the death of one of those agents (link)
    39. Signed Trespass Bill, making it a federal offense to be “disruptive” at political events (link, link)
    40. Pushing for creation of “Internet ID” for every American (link)
    41. Signed extension of the Patriot Act with snooping provisions intact (link, link)
    42. Invoked “government secrecy” against a lawsuit by AT&T customers “who claim federal agents illegally intercepted their phone calls” (link)
    43. Raided homes of peace activists in Minneapolis (link)
    44. Wants warrantless access to cell phone location data (link)
    45. Sought access to private e-mail correspondence without needing to go through a judge (link)
    NEW! Honorable Mention: Allowed FDA to secretly monitor thousands of private emails of its own scientists (link)
    [h=2]Ethics and Transparency[/h]46. Broke promise to allow five days of public comment before signing bills, repeatedly (link)
    47. Broke promise to broadcast health care negotiations on C-SPAN (link)
    48. Broke promise to reduce earmarks to 1994 levels (link)
    49. Broke promise to create a public “contracts and influence” database (link)
    50. Issued signing statement that he would not abide by provisions in a budget bill regarding “czar” funding (link)
    51. Issued signing statement that he did not need to abide by provisions addressing aid for the IMF and World Bank (link)
    52. Did this despite promise not to use signing statements to nullify instructions from Congress (link, link, link)
    53. Tried to force a New York Times reporter to reveal confidential sources (link)
    54. Claimed the government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal law, a position more radical than the Bush Administration’s (link)
    55. Failed to disclose visits by industry executives while crafting health care reform legislation (link)
    56. Tried to block a ruling that White House visitor logs had to be released to the public (link)
    57. Eventually released the records and claimed that release was evidence of his “transparent” government, despite the fact that he went to court to keep them secret (link)
    58. Frequently met with lobbyists off campus to hide from the public and keep visits out of White House visitor logs (link)
    59. Tried to block a court-ordered release of detainee abuse photos (link)
    60. Cited exceptions to open records laws thousands of times more than Bush (link)
    61. Repeatedly invoked “state secrets” privilege to get cases thrown out of court after criticizing Bush for doing the same (link)
    62. Blocked Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests regarding ties with Monsanto (link)
    63. Refused FOIA request to reveal who was on the Intelligence Oversight Board (link)
    64. Aggressively fighting FOIA requests with long delays, blocking release whenever possible, and using bolder arguments than the Bush administration (link, link, link)
    65. Appointed 5 RIAA lawyers to the Justice department (link)
    66. Appointed serial tax dodger Timothy Geithner to be his Treasury Secretary (link)
    67. Appointed Monsanto executive Michael Taylor to the FDA (link)
    68. Appointed H&R Block CEO Mark Ernst to the IRS, where he wrote tax regulation to require licensed tax preparers. Congress never gave the IRS authority to do that, but this regulation benefits H&R Block, who had lobbied for it. (link)
    69. Told the Air Force it was illegal for their families to read Wikileaks (link)
    70. Did all of these things after promising that his administration would be “the most open and transparent in history.” (link)
    Honorable Mention: Accused of violating subpoenas related to thousands of documents (link)
    NEW! Honorable Mention: 36 Obama staffers are delinquent on more than $800,000 in taxes (link)
    NEW! Honorable Mention: Lied (until they were caught) about connection to an ad that accused Romney of being responsible for a man’s death (link)
    [h=2]Health Care Reform[/h]71. Required American citizens, for the first time, to purchase a product from a private business through the “individual mandate.” I don’t care if Republicans came up with the idea first; I don’t care if you need it to make the health care bill work; and it’s not like state car insurance, either. It is (I believe) a severe and unconstitutional overreach that sets a dangerous precedent of almost unlimited government, and conservatives and liberals alike should agree that this insurance company hybrid system is a far worse health care solution than either free-market or government-run “single payer” systems. (link)
    72. Argued the individual mandate penalty was not a tax increase to make the bill more attractive and then argued that the penalty was a tax increase to justify its constitutionality under the commerce clause (link, link).
    73. Cut a benefit program from health care reform that was supposed to reduce the overall cost after realizing it would actually dramatically increase it (link)
    74. Established unreasonable requirements on organizations and then granted over 1500 waivers from those requirements to those with the connections or resources to get approved (link), with labor unions receiving the overwhelming majority (link)
    75. Broke promise to require employers to provide seven days paid sick leave (link) (From my bias I’m actually glad this promise was broken. I’m including it because the pro-bama list actually uses this promise as a reason to vote for Obama. Seriously? I could make up 218 nice-sounding promises. That’s not a reason to vote for me. But if I become president and break those promises? That’s definitely not a reason to vote for me again.)
    76. Broke promise to allow imported prescription drugs (link)
    [h=2]Budget and Finances[/h]77. Broke promise to cut deficit in half by the end of his first term. (link) (All of Obama’s deficits are larger than all of Bush’s, and not just because of the inherited crisis – his projected deficits for the next four years are still much larger.)
    78. Broke promise to repeal Bush tax cuts for high earners, signing bill to extend them (link)
    79. Broke promise that families making less than $250,000 a year would not see “any form of tax increase” (link)
    80. Broke promise to end no-bid contracts over $25,000 (link)
    81. Loaned $500 million at a low rate to an unsustainable green company that went bankrupt (link)
    82. The program behind that loan has only created a few thousand jobs compared to the 65,000 promised (link)
    83. Reneged on accepting public financing limits for his presidential campaign (link)
    84. Broke promise to expand the child and dependent care credit (link)
    85. Broke promise to end income tax for seniors making less than $50,000 a year (link)
    86. The Senate has not passed an annual budget for over 1000 days, including the second year Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress, (link) and a 2011 budget proposal from the White House was so bad it was rejected by the Senate 97-0. (link)
    87. Broke promise to form an international group to help Iraq refugees (link)
    [h=2]Ethics and Transparency, Part II: Whistleblowers[/h]88. Prosecuted whistleblower Bradley Manning for disclosing video, cables, and intelligence reports (link)
    89. Obstructed investigation into Bradley Manning’s inhumane treatment (link)
    90. Prosecuted whistleblower Thomas Drake, who helped reveal an ineffective $1.2 billion NSA contract that could have been done for $3 million (link)
    91. Prosecuted whistleblower Stephen Jin-Woo Kim for “allegedly leaking nuclear information about North Korea” (link)
    92. Prosecuted whistleblower Jeffrey Sterling for “allegedly disclosing unauthorized national defense information” (link)
    93. Prosecuted whistleblower John Kiriakou for “allegedly leaking to reporters the names of two agency operatives” (link)
    94. Launched a criminal investigation against Paul Hardy for blowing the whistle on safety problems with a breast cancer detection device (link)
    95. These prosecutions are more than all previous presidents combined (link)
    96. These prosecutions are happening after Obama formerly praised whistleblowers, represented one as a young law and vowed to strengthen whistleblower protection laws (link, link).
    [h=2]Various and Sundry Administrative Overreaches[/h]97. Used executive order to establish “Intellectual Property Enforcement Advisory Committees” (link)
    98. Seized and suspended websites without due process (link, link)
    99. Gave permits to BP and other oil companies, exempting them from environmental protection laws (link)
    100. Granted waivers to 10 states that failed to meet education standards if they accepted administration-approved policies (link, link)
    101. Forced CEO of General Motors to step down (link)
    102. Announced the Home Affordable Modification Program which the New York Times called a “colossal failure” (link)
    103. Sued four states over immigration laws (link, link, link, link). I can’t find solid proof one way or the other, but I’m fairly sure this is more states sued than by any previous administration.
    104. Did not tell Arizona about plans to sue; Arizona governor found out through an interview Secretary of State Clinton did in Ecuador (link)
    105. Plans to sue Apple and other publishers over e-book pricing (link)
    106. Record amount of prosecutions under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, pushing the boundaries and getting multiple cases thrown out of court (link, link, link)
    107. Raided Amish farm selling raw milk (link)
    108. Brought a lawsuit against a manufacturing company for creating jobs in a non-union state (link) and then refused a congressional subpoena for information about that lawsuit (link)
    Honorable Mention: banning imported rifles (link)
    NEW! Honorable Mention: Cut off funding to a Texas health program as retaliation for a state anti-abortion bill even though 29 other states have similar laws and continue to receive funding (link)
    NEW! Honorable Mention: Tried to ban children from farm chores despite a huge decrease in youth farm injuries (link)
    [h=2]Ethics and Transparency, Part III: Lobbyists[/h]109. Granted waivers to lobbyists to get around his own supposed restrictions on lobbyists (link)
    110. After attacking auto, financial, and health lobbyist Steve Ricchetti for his political connections, Obama appointed him as Biden’s top aide (link, link).
    111. Appointed former lobbyist Islam Siddiqui as America’s Chief Agriculture Negotiator (link)
    112. Appointed telecom lobbyist Eric Holder to attorney general (link). Holder was also a top fundraiser (link)
    113. Appointed education lobbyist Tom Vilsack to secretary of agriculture (link)
    114. Appointed defense lobbyist William Lynn to deputy defense secretary (link)
    115. Appointed anti-tobacco lobbyist William Corr to deputy health and human services secretary (link)
    116. Appointed energy lobbyist David Hayes to deputy interior secretary (link)
    117. Appointed Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson as chief of staff to treasury secretary Geithner (link)
    118. Appointed variety lobbyist Ron Klain as chief of staff to Joe Biden (link)
    119. Appointed lobbyist Mona Sutphen to deputy White House chief of staff (link)
    120. Appointed civil rights lobbyist Melody Barnes to domestic policy council director (link)
    121. Appointed Hispanic lobbyist Cecilia Munoz to director of intergovernmental affairs (link)
    122. Appointed union lobbyist Patrick Gaspard to political affairs director (link)
    123. Appointed lobbyist Michael Strautmanis to chief of staff to the president’s assistant for intergovernmental relations (link)
    124. Appointed lobbyist Erik Hirschhorn to the Commerce department (link)
    125. Appointed lobbyist Michael Punke to represent the US before the WTO (link)
    126. Appointed lobbyist Jacqueline Barrien to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (link)
    127. Appointed lobbyist Emmitt Beliveau to Deputy Assistant for Advance at the White House (link)
    128. Appointed lobbyist Cassandra Butts to Deputy Counsel at the White House (link)
    129. Appointed lobbyist Martha Coven as Special Assistant at the White House (link)
    130. Appointed lobbyist Phillip J. Crowley as assistant secretary for public affairs at the State Department (link)
    131. Appointed Fannie Mae lobbyist Thomas Donilon as Deputy National Security Adviser at the NSA (link)
    132. Appointed lobbyist Derek Douglas as Special Assistant for Urban Affairs at the White House (link)
    133. Appointed lobbyist Jocelyn Frye as Director of Policy and Projects at the Office of the First Lady (link)
    134. Appointed education lobbyist Gabriella Gomez to assistant secretary at the Department of Education (link)
    135. Appointed lobbyist Krysta Harden to assistant secretary at the Department of Agriculture (link)
    136. Appointed lobbyist Alan Hoffmann to Deputy Chief of Staff to the vice president (link)
    137. Appointed AT&T lobbyist Sean Kennedy as special assistant at the White House (link)
    138. Appointed MPAA lobbyist Jon Liebowitz as chairman of the Federal Trade Commission (link)
    139. Appointed lobbyist Robert Litt to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (link)
    140. Appointed lobbyist Demetrios J. Marantis as deputy U.S. trade representative (link)
    141. Appointed lobbyist Dennis McDonough as deputy assistant to the president (link)
    142. Appointed lobbyist Leon Panetta as director of the CIA (link)
    143. Appointed Audubon Society lobbyist Robert Perciasepe to deputy commissioner of the EPA (link)
    144. Appointed lobbyist Daniel Poneman to deputy secretary at the Department of Energy (link)
    145. Appointed lobbyist Peter Rundlet to deputy assistant at the White House (link)
    146. Appointed lawyer lobbyist Kathleen Sebelius as Secretary of Health and Human Services(link)
    147. Appointed lobbyist Susan Sher to chief of staff at the Office of the First Lady (link)
    148. Appointed lobbyist Dana Singiser to Special Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs (link)
    149. Appointed lobbyist Nancy Stoner to Deputy Assistant Administrator for Water at the EPA (link)
    150. Appointed lobbyist Thomas Strickland to assistant secretary at the Department of the Interior (link)
    151. Appointed lobbyist Karl R. Thompson as a lawyer at the Department of Justice (link)
    152. Appointed lobbyist John Trasvina to assistant secretary at the Department of Housing and Urban Development (link)
    153. Appointed lobbyist Dan Turton to Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs at the White House (link)
    154. Appointed lobbyist Christine Varney to Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust at the Justice Department (link)
    155. Appointed lobbyist Richard Verma to assistant secretary at the State Department (link)
    156. Appointed lobbyist William J. Wilkins to Chief Counsel at the IRS (link)
    157. Appointed Tom Daschle to health and human services. Daschle was not technically a lobbyist but received millions advising health insurers and hospitals (link), and was also severely delinquent on his taxes (link)
    158. Not only did he appoint all these lobbyists, but he did this after vowing to ban them (link)
    Honorable Mention: Hired Keystone pipeline lobbyist as a top adviser to his reelection campaign (link)
    [h=2]Petty Hypocrisy[/h]159. Insisted that Americans should not be required to buy health insurance during campaign before championing health care bill that does just that (link)
    160. Signaled support for taxing employer health benefits after severely criticizing McCain for the same thing (link)
    161. Slammed Bush for high gas prices in campaign and now is upset that the GOP is doing the same to him (link) (Note: I don’t think the President has that much power either way)
    162. Changed his mind about opposing Super PACs and urged fundraisers to support them (link)
    NEW! Honorable Mention: Now trying to expand the Export-Import Bank, one of the few government programs he said should be scaled back as a candidate, calling it “corporate welfare” (link)
    Honorable Mention: Telephoned a liberal activist when she was called a slut by a conservative commentator but didn’t do anything about a conservative commentator who was called a slut by a liberal commentator. He also accepted a $1 million Super PAC donation from Bill Maher, who has called conservative women worse things. (link, link)
    [h=2]Ethics and Transparency, Part IV: Top Fundraisers[/h]163. Appointed top fundraiser Cynthia Stroum as ambassador to Luxembourg, who wasted time and money hunting for a fancy residence and remodeling its bathrooms (link)
    164. Replaced Stroum with top fundraiser Robert Mandell (link)
    165. Appointed top fundraiser Nicole Avant as ambassador to the Bahamas, who was largely absent from post (link)
    166. Appointed top fundraiser Donald Gips as ambassador to South Africa, while his company received millions in government stimulus contracts (link)
    167. Appointed top fundraiser Dan Beyer as ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein (link)
    168. Appointed top fundraiser Julius Genachowski to chairman of the FCC (link)
    169. Appointed top fundraiser Steve Spinner to the Energy Department. Spinner also happened to push for the loans to the now-bankrupt Solyndra (link)
    170. Appointed top fundraiser Matthew Barzun as ambassador to Sweden (link)
    171. Appointed top fundraiser Jeff Bleich as ambassador to Australia (link)
    172. Appointed top fundraiser Richard Danzig to the foreign policy board (link)
    173. Appointed top fundraiser William Eacho as ambassador to Austria (link)
    174. Appointed top fundraiser Howard Gutman as ambassador to Belgium (link)
    175. Appointed top fundraiser Scott Harris to the Department of Energy (link)
    176. Appointed top fundraiser William Kennard as ambassador to the European Union (link)
    177. Appointed top fundraiser Spencer Overton as the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General (link)
    178. Appointed top fundraiser Thomas Perrelli as Associate Attorney General (link)
    179. Appointed top fundraiser Abigail Pollack to the Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino (link)
    180. Appointed top fundraiser Charles Rivkin as ambassador to France and Monaco (link)
    181. Appointed top fundraiser John Roos as ambassador to Japan (link)
    182. Appointed top fundraiser Francisco Sanchez under the Secretary of Commerce for International Trade (link)
    183. Appointed top fundraiser Alan Solomont as ambassador to Spain and Andorra (link)
    184. Appointed top fundraiser A. Marisa Chun as deputy associate attorney general (link)
    185. Appointed top fundraiser Gregory Craig to the White House counsel (link)
    186. Appointed top fundraiser Norman Eisen to the special counsel to the president for ethics andgovernment reform (link)
    187. Appointed top fundraiser Michael Froman as deputy assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs (link)
    188. Appointed top fundraiser Mark Gallogly to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board (link)
    189. Appointed top fundraiser Max Holtzman as senior adviser to the Agriculture secretary (link)
    190. Appointed top fundraiser James Hudson as director of the European bank for Reconstruction and Development (link)
    191. Appointed top fundraiser Jeh Johnson to the Department of Defense (link)
    192. Appointed top fundraiser Samuel Kaplan as ambassador to Morocco (link)
    193. Appointed top fundraiser Nicole Lamb-Hale to the Commerce Department (link)
    194. Appointed top fundraiser Andres Lopez to the Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino (link)
    195. Appointed top fundraiser Cindy Moelis as the director of the Commission on White House Fellows (link)
    196. Appointed top fundraiser William Orrick as counselor to the assistant attorney general (link)
    197. Appointed top fundraiser John Phillips as chairman of the Commission on White House Fellows (link)
    198. Appointed top fundraiser Penny Pritzker to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board (link)
    199. Appointed top fundraiser Bob Rivkin to the Transportation Department (link)
    200. Appointed top fundraiser Desiree Rogers as the White House social secretary (link)
    201. Appointed top fundraiser Louis Susman as ambassador to the United Kingdom (link)
    202. Appointed top fundraiser Robert Sussman to the Environmental Protection Agency (link)
    203. Appointed top fundraiser Christina Tchen as director of the White House Office of Public Engagement (link)
    204. Appointed top fundraiser Barry White as ambassador to Norway (link)
    205. Appointed top fundraiser Preeta Bansal to the Office of Management and Budget (link)
    206. Appointed top fundraiser Laurie Fulton as ambassador to Denmark (link)
    207. Appointed top fundraiser Fred Hochberg as President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States (link)
    208. Appointed top fundraiser Valerie Jarrett as senior adviser to the president (link)
    209. Appointed top fundraiser Kevin Jennings as assistant deputy secretary of Education (link)
    210. Appointed top fundraiser Steven Rattner as Treasury Department adviser (link)
    211. Appointed top fundraiser Miriam Sapiro as deputy U.S. trade representative (link). Sapiro was also a VeriSign lobbyist (link)
    212. Appointed top fundraiser Vinai Thummalapally as ambassador to Belize (link)
    213. Appointed top fundraiser David Jacobson as ambassador to Canada (link)
    214. Appointed top fundraiser Ronald Kirk as U.S. trade representative (link)
    215. Appointed top fundraiser Rocco Landesman to the National Endowment of the Arts (link)
    216. Appointed top fundraiser Susan Rice as ambassador to the United Nations (link)
    217. Gave jobs to over 200 top fundraisers after vowing to banish “special interests” (link)
    218. Appointed as many top fundraisers to administrative posts in 2 years as Bush did in 8
     
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    Teancum Intrepid Member

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    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio..._not_on_speaking_terms_cnKxceO4eI9hCVGijxgPtO
    ^^^ I thought this article summed up the polarization of America quite nicely. It is indeed like speaking different languages.

     
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    Vosse Well Known Member

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    Even though those are completely legitimate reasons. I'll take him over Romney any day. And honestly, I wonder what would've happened if McCain had won in 2008. Which was who I voted for.
     
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    ave JAMMA compatible

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    What is it with you guys wanting rich guys who lost touch with reality in the White House??

     
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    Teancum Intrepid Member

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    Right because that video taught me so much kind of like the simpsons and south park....
     
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    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Romney is a real clown there's nothing more to it. I'm glad Obama-rama was re-elected.
     
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