The Political thread ... rant away.

That reminds me of someone. OH that's right Hitler. Even then trying to round up the portion of the country that's all armed and the portion you claim to be crazy sounds like a great idea. Now I would be all for a state seceding and letting all the conservatives go there. Won't take long to see who has the better approach.

 

3D Printers have already been used to make various pieces for guns. Knife crime is rampant throughout places with no guns. People are killed by their inmates in prison, and in that instance almost everything lethal is already banned. Regardless of anyone's opinion on things, forcing people to do things against their will either way will not make for a happier place. The only way to truly stop murder is to take away people's arms, legs, and teeth. Even then, I could imagine hearing some awful story about someone choking someone else with their chin.

Point being: The best way to stop humans that are mentally ill from taking action is to take the best action on re-evaluating mental illness (which may also involve us evaluating our own). The "this is why we can't have nice things" approach has been used worldwide and it hasn't stopped anybody from going psycho and causing mass murder. If anything, it seems that the need to suppress certain freedoms encourages more unstable behavior because it casts a suspicious light on society and makes trust appear worthless.

This is an era that's primarily based around self-satisfaction. The fact that there's no realistic regard or care for others in most instances ties in pretty well with it though because of how worthless trust is made out to be. There's too much seemingly-unfixable cynicism, selfishness, finger-pointing, arrogance, and fear among people. And sadly, no matter how you try to regulate a society where the primary concern is satisfying your own urges, nothing is really going to work out too well.

The world would truly be a happier place if everyone woke up, realized the above and tried to fix their own internal drawbacks, and unified a little more. But it always has to be through history repeating itself with centuries of trial and error (with people from generation to generation talking about how history repeats itself with centuries of trial and error). We're all capable of doing incredible things, but surroundings, upbringing, or even the mind often serve more as bottlenecks than as the advancements they should really be. It's sort of like having a computer that's insanely upgradeable but it only has the lowest-spec parts available for it. This computer is capable of anything even still, but it's set in "it's ways" of only booting a copy of Windows ME that's haunted with ancient viruses. The viruses made the kernel so unstable that programs crash 24/7, but the only way this major problem is assessed is by pointless error reports that get ignored and bypassed. Everyday use ensues but only through avoiding the uncountable number of obstacles that are in the way.

All I really know is that almost nothing is absolutely sure, but in that I'm absolutely sure that I'm open to learn as much about this abundance of uncertainties as possible.

 

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Really? Tell us more about this Hit...ler person.

 

Not just all religious people, only the particularly stupid and dangerous religious people, such as all members of the Republican party

 

Figures the Jackasses hate the conservatives.

 

Given that you support politicians who would cut your health support in an instant to buy a new boat, I wouldn't say that I'm the jackass here.

 

You don't even live here what do you care?

Oh yeah that's right you support moral repugnancy and are going to hell.

 

Because I do not approve of one of the most important nations being led by superstitious, unsustainable, greedy, religious jerks. Who, by the way, also are against abortion and gay marriage which is a joke given that it's a first world country. This alone should be the reason you wouldn't vote for them.

 

You do realize that this is not the view of every conservative right? I think if the Republicans are smart (which they haven't proven to be yet), they'll embrace the libertarian sect of their party and hopefully start getting the country back on track. Gary Johnson would have been a fantastic president, but for whatever reason they wouldn't even let the man debate (in the Republican primaries).

It's a shame, because the Gary Johnson's and Ron Paul's are really the only people in Washington that even remotely know what the fuck they're talking about (instead of being the typical retard and going "OH MAH GAWD GAYS ARE BAD!!!!" or "OH MAH GAWD TEH GUNZ ARE TEH BAD THEY KILLED THE PEOPLEZ!"). But the media paints them to be crazy and their own parties disown them and instead throw up flip-flopping jackasses as presidential candidates.

 

Poking this thread with a stick!

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx
^^^ examples mostly ignored by the media of average people defending themselves with guns.

 

now would there be a need to defend themselves with guns if said guns were not easily accessible and the whole guns and fear culture wasn't in place(as with most other nations around the world)

 

lol love the pic but thats not what i think at all and know only too well having grown up where i grew up and live where i live

 

Aye, I live in an area where guns arent too prevalent but still exist illegally. Doesn't help when the cops hold what I like to call "intimidation meetings" in schools. 3 years in a row the same bald headed buffoon came in and gave an "in ur face" presentation as a scare tactic. What a douche.

Dude someone asked how people were getting the guns, he said "same way people get drugs" and I thought to myself "grow/manufacture?" I guess since I just plain don't like him I thought of the grow part, but shit, now with 3D printers you could probably make a fully function gun.

 

its possible to make a sub machine gun with a bit of mechanical knowledge and some tools, also shotguns and single use pistols / revolvers can all be DIY'd if you know how. although you'd probably be risking a missfire lol.

where there's a will there's a way and all that.

 

When I was in highschool, 1 kid stabbed another with a pencil in the neck(the kid survived..barely, but bled so bad they had to replace like 300ft of carpet from his journey to the ambulance), if the pencil was removed after the stabbing, he would be way dead. After that the PTA called for a ban on sharpened pencils. Of course the ban only lasted like 3 months....
Shouldn't we skip all of this assault weapons bans and go strait to removing all pointy/harmful objects. Then pad everything with pillows?
Weapons are tools. Just like a pencil. If misused you can kill the fuck out of people.
For those who think you can't kill bunches of people with a pencil your right, but a machete you can buy at a hardware store right now can.
And while some states have laws against knives, swords are perfectly legal to own in most states. And to anyone who has had military/police training knows, a swords and knives are faster than any gun at less than 9 feet(3 meters'ish). Samurai swords if made in japan, by reputable companies can slice a person in half. Heck take away all swords and guns, you can still untraceably level a small building with plant fertilizer(and a few other retail items).

Guns are esier to ban than fixing/detecting schizophrenia/major mental illnesses. It won't solve the problem though, just adds duct tape and hope. Oh and it adds warm fuzzys

 

difference is pencils are for writing / drawing, guns are for killing, and assault weapons are for mass killing efficiently.

but yeah your right about the mental issues but alot of shootings taking place are taking place with legally owned weapons being used or stolen and used, there's a difference between a single action hunting rifle and a fully auto assault rifle they key is in the name "assault" these weapons were designed to kill efficiently and be used on the battlefield, not for hunting or for being kept around a private home or on residential streets.

mental health is a huge factor, but so in my opinion is "assholeism" and also availability is a factor, which is easier to address i'd rather a maniac tried to attack me with a machete or a knife or a pencil than with a AK47 or M4/M16 MP5 etc...

 

Yeah some people just don't understand that even a blind man with an assault rifle can kill 10+ people in a matter of seconds. Or just don't understand why those called "assault" weapons. Pensil/axe/hammer whatever argument is way too old and way too stupid. It's not hard to kill someone with bare hands or any (not so) heavy object or something sharp or not really, like a spoon. But can you kill 30 people with bare hands in less than 20 seconds ? You can't. But with assault rifle it's easy as pie. If some people can't see the difference here - they are just dumb.

 

I got graded an expert shooter in the military with the M16/M4(one level above sniper). I can tell you it is about as unlikely of a scenario that someone can kill 10 people in seconds blindfolded with a semi-auto rifle. Even less with full auto. I can say that a theater scenario, or door funneling can be deadly no matter what multi bullet weapon you choose. But if someone else is armed and ready, the tables could be turned in less than a second.

This is a coined term, it used to mean automatic weapons, now it means semi-automatic. Some people use it to mean any gun that is "military like".

You joke, but look at how many melee weapons are used, not up to par with firearms, but its no small number:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
China where guns are illegal, its not old or stupid, it happened this year:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...dy-hook-china-s-terrifying-knife-attacks.html

Again obviously, you haven't shot a semi-auto gun besides on video games.

Coined "assualt weapons" are for hunting, home defense and personal carry. You think colt, remington, or mossburg co, ever intended for people(outside a war scenario, a different topic for a different time) to use there guns for efficient mass killing?

A single action hunting rifle isn't very useful for home defense or personal carry if you miss once, the guy has cover, or if the bad guy isn't put down. Even more useless with multiple baddies.

At less than 9 feet a knived weapon is way more effective than a gun at killing people. Guns are just way esier to master, and are a pop culture icon. I'd rather not be killed by any weapon. The availability factor is not a factor, if a person decides to kill multiple people, the weapons of choice are the last thing they worry about. Remember, most mass killings are murder suicides. Take away semi auto weapons; most of these guys aren't stupid, they're crazy....And smart people can think up 5 more different options to mass kill. Most people think that this is a chicken and an egg problem, you take away the egg(guns) and the chicken(crazy fucks who mass kill) will disappear, or that we will only experience "lighter killing sprees". Problem is, is that there is way more eggs out there than guns.

 

UKIP are wankers.

From the party manifesto.

Too bad anybody above the age of 21 and working 9-5 Monday to Friday (so a basic full time minimum wage situation) earns £12,875.20, ((£6.19*40)*52) based upon the current Minimum wage, which is going up soon anyway.