The Political thread ... rant away.

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  1. Evotistical

    Evotistical Robust Member

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    In AZ were at 7.80 per hour (£5.17). I survived off minimum wage half my life. In the US if you make minumum wage you pay little or no income tax at all.
     
  2. WolverineDK

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    So much about me being overly pessimistic about country, I hate to say "I Told You So". Butt fuck it ! It looks my pessimism was NOT just all bollocks. Looks my so-called "social-democratic" government is becoming way too much of a fascist government.

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  3. ave

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    Hahahah, please tell me this was intentional! :p
     
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    Yes, it was and I have learned it from one of the masters here, whom shall remain unnamed. Unless the master comes forward and says "It is I who has taught/helped WDK to be a bit more sarcastic and perhaps even teaching him a few tricks of the trait". And no it is not the code of the bar. That Greek skater Adonis it is not , even though he has been quite influential too.
     
  5. Ashen

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    Hasn't been there for a while...
    Well^_^ Meanwhile in Russia:
    Since today if you'll write in your blog that there is no god, say it on public, or just try to debate any kind of atheistic minds nearby any religious fanatics (any of them - muslims, judaism and, especially (be aware of that!!!)Christians) you'll have a great chance to be fined for up to $15400. You also can be arrested and put in jail. Government passed a bill about that^_^
    Since today if you want commit suicide, just visit almost any city in Russia, stand in a crowd and loudly proclaim yourself as a gay, lesbian or bisexual. Pleas, do it it russian language and just wait for a few minutes^_^ If you're unlucky - you'll be arrested and possibly just hardly beaten. Later you will have some problem with a lawyers and possibly expelled from the country. But if it was you're lucky day, you'll be beaten to death instantly (even police officers will enjoy it^_^) and no one will be punished - that's now allowed by russian government.
    Of course bill passed today have a bit different terms on it, but peoples reaction...
    Just if you or your friends have to go in Russia, please, ask them never (i'll repeat - FOR YOUR OWN/THEIR SAFETY - NEVER!!!) tell anything antireligious or anything about their sexual preferences if they are not straight even a bit. It's become dangerous with the permission of the Emperor Putin.

    P.S. It wasn't 1st april joke. And i've don't get drunk, smoked or somehow f***ed off my brain out of my head.
     
  6. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    I know this video is probably very old to a lot of people but it really put into perspective for me.

    Obama is either
    A. A major sellout and that could be grounds for impeachment
    B. Evidence the whole "president is just a representative and actually does nothing" is true and that he quickly found out President is about as powerful of a position as "class president" in school, i.e you cant do shit
     
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  7. Teancum

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    @cyantist

    Wow haven't seen this video yet. I have seen an even older one that had senator obama debating with president obama on most issues to show how much he's moved on issues (or lied) Obama has always been able to give a good speech and with the media protecting him makes it rough for any one to take him on.
     
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  9. ave

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    $15? In Canada, they earn $10.

    Also the picture is dumb. Those aren't replacements, they are quick order terminals. Any McDonald's employee spends 80% of their work time preparing food, cleaning et cetera. Receiving and entering orders is only one out of a whole array of different tasks for which they get paid $10/hr.
     
  10. Evotistical

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    In the beginning of my work career, I worked at allot of customer service jobs and McDonalds was one of them. I got laid off and used this job a a spring board to actually have income, while looking for a computer repair job.

    They hired me at minimum wage as a cashier. Between customers I started to clean like other jobs I had worked for. The manager comes up to me and asks me why I was cleaning; I told him "because there isn't anything else to do". He said I can do it if I want to, but there is designated people who clean the register area, on the night and midshifts. So I asked what should I do. He said hang out and wait for a customer. So knowing that McDonalds gives away icecream to kids, I actively went around the restaurant handing out ice cream to the young ones and cleaning up the dining room. Again the manager came over to me and asked me why I wasn't at my station. I said because there is no customers(there really wasn't), so I went back to the front and waited for customers sometimes for up to a half hour. Needless to say I didn't work there for very long(got bored and got a better job).
     
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    American LiveJournal blocking bloggers, who provide real, 100% proven information about situation in south-east of Ukraine (which is about genocide by Kiev's government), but still support account, which provide a proven lie^_^ Democracy in all its glory...
    Meanwhile Ukrainian Nazi Guard and Right Sector (Praviy Sector) keeps shelling civilians, claiming them as "terrorists". Strange terrorists, i'd say - unarmed, not killing anyone, doesn't commiting any act of terrorism...
     
  13. Ashen

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    Brave Ukrainian army claims that they found and killed extremely dangerous terrorist. A problem is that "terrorist" was a 6 years old girl. Something bad happens with this world.

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  14. Evotistical

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    Russia needs a fricken revolution from lies and growing communist corruption. Dear leader shirtless horseman needs to go. Our country isn't perfect, but damn crazy shit goes down hard in Russia.
     
  15. Ashen

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    Heh, a problem is that in Russia things goes quite better, than in Ukraine (for example, and i don't even talk about USA ^_^). When you checked a government debt last time? Compare it and you'll see, that Russia drastically shortened it's debt, while Ukraine only raised this debt (USA even drowned deeper, year by year). US Dollar has nothing to support him, becoming halfpenny piece of paper, because US government dosn't solve financial (and other internal) problems, only switching ON a money printer again and again. And no, Russia doesn't need a revolution (except, maybe, in techonology area). Shirtless horseman Putin is a badass guy. But he raised up ruined country, which he received from damn drunkard Boris Yeltsin. Yeltsin ignited Chechen War, Putin seized it. Yeltsin f**ked up whole country to kneel, Putin raised country from it's knees. What did last few presidents of US? Ignited war on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, reignited conflict in Afganistan, which caused death to hundreds of thousands of civilians and thousands of US soldiers. Yeah, that's a probably better way to rule a country - kill as many people as possible (even your own citizens), only to gain some more profit for military corporations.
    By the way, do you know what Jen Psaki said recently? "Ukrainian government have the right to kill as many civilians as they need, because... Just because." She claimed that Kiev government try to care about unity of a country, but in reality Kiev just been ordered to take down peoples, whose only desire were peace and safety and who stand with weapons in their hands against nazi's from Kiev. Did you know that in territory reclaimed by ukrainian army almost all man were arrested just because they are men? They all claimed as terrorists.
    You thought World War II was over with Germany capitulated? Nope. Nazi still exist and they just won war in Ukraine.
    By the way - in modern Russia communists have almost zero authority. They like, say, clowns today^_^ At least most of them. You probably have outdated idea about russians - we don't have bears walking on streets in quilted jacket, drinking vodka while playing on balalaika^_^ Also we never ever had bear cavalry like that:
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    One more thing - if americans will someday clear their heads from all prejudice and try to choose their allies more thoroughly, they should probably choose russians. Reason is simple - russians care about their friends almost like about their childrens. But russians are ruthless to their enemies and traitors and became unstoppable, regardless of cost. Example - situation on Ukraine raised up a lot of peoples in Russia, who wished to take weapon and go to Ukraine, fighting against nazi's. Putin do what he can to stop them, because it will be a violation of Ukraine borders and a lot of worldwide agreements. But if Putin will gave out an order to russian army to protect ukrainians (and russians, who now slaughtered there) from Kiev nazi's, everything will be finished in a matter of days - Ukraine will become a "country 404" and it's territory returns to Russia, as it was long-long time ago.

    By the way, what did you meant saying "damn crazy shit goes down hard"? What kind of "shit" in your opinion "goes down hard"? May be i can provide you more correct information about this "shit" than you have now? ^_^ Don't hesitate to ask, there'll be no offence taken ^_^
     
  16. superg

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    "The Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists" (Winston Churchill)

    @Ashen: I would recommend you to go and rant elsewhere, your head is full of Putin's propaganda and you simply don't see full picture. If you want we can take this conversation offline and I will explain to you a lot about your fake youtube videos and other things, but I don't think it'll help you.

    Here's guys what happened:
    1. My country had idiot president who were stealing money and who was under direct control of Putin
    2. Ukrainian patriots forced him to leave, but before that he managed to kill more than 100 demonstrants with special forces (and injure much more)
    3. Sneaky Putin took over Crimea with his military and fake referendum while Ukraine had suffered heavily from previous government (who is currently hiding in Russia)
    4. Putin constantly sends diversion troops to Eastern Ukraine and supplies Russian weapons to separatists to be able to fight Ukrainian people and to join all-mighty Russia in their quest to become USSR one more time
    5. There aren't a lot of such people who would like to join Russia, probably around 5% of total Ukrainian population. Some small percent of such people believe in idea of USSR "reunion", other people do this because of easy money and yet others are simple criminals
    6. All such events are orchestrated from Russia and top commanders of separatists have Russian citizenship, they aren't even hiding this fact.

    The ultimate plan was to conquer almost all Ukraine, but it failed partially because of US/Europe sanctions to Russian economy and close friends of Putin and partially because we managed to protect ourselves.
    I am sure that Russia has military power to conquer Ukraine, no doubts in that, but it'll lead to collapse of Russia as a country.

    Speaking of videos which he posted here: Ukrainian military isn't using air strikes in populated area because of citizens. It's complete bullshit to claim that these strikes are from Ukrainian military. These strikes are done by Pro-Russian separatists because of two reasons:
    1. They are doing this to get support of citizens by making them believe that it's Ukrainian military who is trying to kill ordinary citizens
    2. As I've said earlier, there are a lot of different kinds of separatists, major part of them are illiterate and aren't able to properly configure weapons and they do a lot of mistakes

    Before these events Ukraine was peaceful country, we have 50% of people speaking Ukrainian, 50% speaking Russian. There is no language problem at all. I agree we had extremely corrupted government (BTW who were elected mainly because of Eastern Ukraine). We were always thinking of Russian people as of our brothers and we didn't expected that they'll come to our land and will start to kill us.

    It's interesting how a Russian citizen, who probably doesn't have any idea what is really happening in Ukraine re-posting here Putin's propaganda he get's directly from TV.
    It's amazing how TV manages to manipulate people mind. These guys are taking videos from all over the internet, change captions and audio and make it like it happened in Ukraine. Some videos were captured in Libya, others in Syria, audio commentary is changed to make people believe it's in Ukraine. Other videos are from Ukraine but it's taken out of a context and audio commentary is manipulating facts in a totally different way than it really is. There are countless proofs for the people who are open minded.
    So sad is that.
     
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  17. Ashen

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    A problem is that i took most of my info from ukrainians themself and european press^_^ I don't ever watch russian TV for, at least, 10 years in a raw - i don't even have antenna connected to my TV, don't have subscribe to digital/cable TV channels - just doesn't have time for this bullshit.
    So my head exactly is clean one from any kind of propaganda, especially of Putin's one^_^
    About some claims:
    1) Yanukovich was about to sign some slavery agreement with EU, but he seen what it may cause to his country and decline this decision. Situation on Ukraine now proves that this decision was right - Ukraine economy going to collapse and Ukraine in no time will be a bankrupt, just like Greece.
    2) Ukrainian "patriots" burned police forces alive, killed them, used a heavy bulldozer and, firearms. There was accident, when a lot of peoples was shot by "unknown" snipers - researchers from Germany proved, that almost all of those sniper shots were made from "patriots" side.
    3) Sneaky Putin take back what allways belongs to Russia, since the very beginning - just learn some history lessons. More up there - Crimea always was in opposition to Kiev administration and always wanted to get away from Ukraine. More to say - even MEPs inspected Crimea and said that there wasn't a russian army presence in amount enough to "took over by force", and "fake referendum" was absolutely legit, accordint to global agreement. Yeah, Ukrainians always think about themselves as a chosen one race, which was ancestors even for monkeys. But reality think otherwise.
    4) Putin doesn't send any troops to Ukraine. I'd say even more - a lot of russian volunteers are stopped trying to cross Russia-Ukraine border. But Unkrainian army now shelling Russian territory near Rostov-on Don. Putin also never will supplie any weaponry to those volunteers, because it will be suicide as a politician even in Russia. And there never was any proof that russian government in any way supported those volunteers, no financially, nor with any kind of equipment by the same reason. Yaeh, Ukrainians always try to prove something... But serial numbers of those firearms always lead to their own arms cache.
    5) That true, there aren't a lot of peoples, who want to join Russia - just Luhansc and Donetsk republik. In Odessa was some too, but they were killed by hitmans of "Praviy Sector" - burned alive, some of them was shot to death and corpses also burned. Even a few children were burnt with they're mother's. And there no such stupid quest as "return back to USSR" - this idea lives only in brains of some ukrainian paranoics.
    6) All such events orchestrated on Ukraine itself. With ukrainian patriots support. While Kiev's government are orchestrated by US military advisors and taking orders from US administration. And they dosn't hide that fact. Because Ukraine were already sold to US. ^_^
    Wow-wow^_^ Again some erotic dreams from ukraine "patriot", who run't away from his "beloved" country - as far as better. Russi never needed "all of Ukraine" because one simple reason - we dosnt' need lazy brainwashed idiots, who doesn't want to work, but want to get every kind of profit. Ukraine's mostly famous export is - hackers, digital pirates and prostitutes. Why do we need that shit in our country? o_O We even glad about all this garbage goes to Europe - they probably need all that garbage.
    Yep, Russia have enough strenght to conquer Ukraine and almost all of Europe. And we even won't collapse as a contry (in all means of this word). But we won't do that - because Russia doesn't like war and never liked. We are nation, which suffered most of other's on this planet from war accidents. Our armament developing in such way thanks to US military race. Only as countermeasure. We never used nuclear weaponry against any country, unlike USA. And third world war would be ignited not by russians.

    1) Ukrainian army USED air strike against civilians. Even OSCE (say them that they're luying ^_^) proved that. South-east "separatist" doen's have aviation, while Ukrainian army - does and actively use it.
    2) You talk now about ukraine army - a lot of soldiers from Nazi Guard upload video with corroded weaponry, claim that Kiev doesn't pay even they're small salary (they even goes to Kiev to discuss about it)... It's a lie too?

    Yeah, i'm a russian citizen. But unlike you i have clear picture what happence now on Ukraine. And unlike you i don't watch TV^_^ More i'd say - i don't trust russian TV, news on it, i don't read russian press, even in internet. How Putin's propagande, if it ever exist, can affect my mind in that way?^_^ And yeah, so sad is that ukrainians sold themselves for a couple of virtual dollard, like a cheap whores. They were a great, strong nation, but will never be again.

    By the way - Poroshenko recently said, that on Ukraine will be no science anymore - quoting him "Ukraine doesn't need it" - all taxes and income will goes to armament (that info was taken directly from Ukrainian government website).
    Fucked up relationship with Russia will get additional 33 billion USD of losses to Ukrainian economy. Great way to rule a country Kiev, keep going that way, Ukraine need's that.
    If Europe doesn't give money, Ukraine government take it from ukrainian's - Poroshenko ordered, since 1st July, rise up all kind of taxes, cut off all social benefits, add taxes to all citizens savings in bank...

    P.S. - next time, to impress anyone, try to use sources, independent to both russian and ukrainian government, just like i do^_^ Your data looks legit only untill your start to dig it out to real truth. But then all your arguments became invalid, full of pseudopatriotic emotions and have nothing to do with reality, where ukrainians murdered by ukrainians fascists since 2013. But ukrainians claims "it's a Russian (and russians) fault" on every "shit happense" sutiation. Some corrupted ukrainian politician didn't get to jail - "it's russians fault!". Neighbor didn't sold something oh wished price - "it's russians fault!". Old pig died because it's too old to live - "that's a russians fault again!". Solar eclipse happense - "Wow shit! That's probably Putin's doing, without a doubt!!!111". Ukraine were under Poland's occupation until a middle of XVII century - "Putin invented a time machine and sold Ukraine to Poland!". Russian are really tired to laugh on all this "it's a russians fault" claims^_^
    More truth about Ukraine - it's coat of arms (Tryzub) is not a seal of the Rurik dynasty, as they claim. But a Khazar tamgha, which existed a lot before Rurik dynasty were founded and used as a sign of Khazar territory. Ukrainian flag taken from Lower Austria. Ukrainian national anthem - slightly rewriten anthem of Poland... Very funny country...
     
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    Time will tell, Russia will collapse as a country, Ukraine will survive, and what doesn't kill us - makes us stronger, believe me.

    The problem with Russians is that they always need to have an external enemy to go on. In times of USSR it was the US. 4 years ago it was Georgia. Now it's Ukraine.
    Instead of industry development and technical progress Russia do wars.
    All civilized countries see full picture what is happening - it's that simple. There are only few countries who support Russia - North Korea, Venesuela, Kazahstan, Cuba and partially Belarus. All world is against you, make yourself comfortable because it'll get worse.
    I would recommend you, my friend, stop using PC (developed in the US), stop using computer mouse (invented in the US), stop using Internet and go to Cheburashka (invented in the US), stop playing games (industry from the US and Japan), stop use of GPS (GLONASS FTW!!1), stop buying those iPhones (developed in the US).

    И вообще братишка, накатим за расеюшку православную! Раисся вперде! Фашисты хреновы, вас Бог накажет.
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    Not even going to continue the discussion.
     
  19. Riki

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    superg, You are talking so much bullshit.
    "Speaking of videos which he posted here: Ukrainian military isn't using air strikes in populated area because of citizens. It's complete bullshit to claim that these strikes are from Ukrainian military. These strikes are done by Pro-Russian separatists because of two reasons"
    Ukraine admitted some. Rebels do not have any aviation. + "Location: USA, MI" And you are talking about Ukraine?
     
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    Your arguments still invalid mate^_^
    You may tell whatever you want, but reality still different. You tell that USSR enemy was USA, but in reality it was US, who was afraid of USSR - theres a whole generation with broken mind health because US think that USSR will probably use nuclear weaponry against US. Panic was that strong, so US used it first against Japan, causing mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent peoples. American children waking in the night, shouting and crying - they dreamt that USSR's nuclear bomb fall over them and burnt everything away. And that wasn't USSR propaganda, it was in a book, completely written by american scientist. 6 years ago (stupid boy, doesn't even know history^_^) it was Georgia, who reignited conflict, started in 1991, when Georgian military tried to genocyde South Osetia and was stopped by russians. A lot of civilians were killed by georgian soldiers in 1992. Even more were to be dead in 2008, if Russia didn't protected South Osetia again. Learn some history mate, then try to use it as argument. Now about Ukraine - actually Ukraine started all this shit in 2008, if not earlier. At first Ukraine promised (almost sold out) Crimea to USA - USA always wanted this piece of earth, because it very delicious, strategy important place. Russia prevented it peacefully. Then current situation repeated in 2013. Nazis from Praviy Sector smacking veterans of WWII (yep, you may find a lot of videos on youtube, uploaded by Praviy Sector with commentaries about "how happy they are, beating veterans, who fought agaisnt third reich"). And in february they tried to eliminate Yanukovich. But this idea failed and Yanukovich fleed to Russia, still only legit Ukrainian president according to Ukrainian constitution even now, with Poroshenko usurpating his place.
    About supporting countries - you have outdated info bro - more and more countries taken out their heads from theis asses. Germany already did it - you probably should know how many peoples were accused of lying germany mass-media about situation in Ukraine. European Union now crumbling in face of it's own corruption and almost complete bancrupcy. Day by day more and more peoples in the world changed their mind about Russia in a positive way, while Ukraine government shows more and more inadequate behavior, openly supporting nazi regime.
    Picture you've posted - no problem mate. What are you gonna tell 'bout this one?
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    http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-us-backing-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/5370759
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554
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    Ow... The last pictures from Ukraine. Ukrainian said that there is no fascists on Ukraine and hang out fascist flags^_^

    More info from democratic Ukraine:
    Ukrainian special forces sell organs from militia and civilians (that's explain why there is a lot of peoples claimed as "missing without a trace"). Near Kramatorsk in Blue Lake Bandera supporters take off corpses.
    Even in such bad Russia no shit like this.


    There's a lot of ukrainians like him - gone as far from Ukraine as possible and claim that their country is the best in the world. Do you want to know WHY he gone off Ukraine? Because in Ukraine is no place to work (there's a millions of ukrainians, who work in... Russia o_O). Because this coward afraid of Bandera supporters - he know that even one wrong word slipped out of his mouth will lead to death. Guys like him think in a very interesting way - "i goes off Ukraine, i don't see all shit happense here, so there is no such shit, even if my best friend will tell me otherwise."
     
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