I definitely won't be doing disc-swapping (and certainly not mod-chipping) on this device, especially after seeing how the other guy's Pluto has a broken drive cover. I'm thinking the resin chassis, while sturdy, probably needs to be babied a bit.
Sorry to hear about Monkfish, didn't know him myself but cancer is a terrible thing. As for the pictures, I think they gave me a hard-on.
As for the broken Saturn lid: he should check if it's the white plastic thingy INSIDE the casing that's broken. (I didn't have sound on whilst checking his vid!) This could probably salvaged from a stock console's spare parts. I had it happen on my model 1 when some friends drunk dad accidentally stepped on the lid: it was just the white part which broke, the casing was still complete though
Vf3 would had been a good title for the relaunch of the Saturn. This could had been an earlier version of the Saturn or Just alternative sku. Maybe the CD was a set of applications making use Of the Pluto's net link and vcd capabilities, something like the dream key disc on the dream cast. I guess we will never know for sure
LMAO!! The rarest peice of Sega prototype console histroy and people on here are talking about defiling it with mod-chips and disc swapping? lol - Why doesn't he give it a new electric pink paint job while he's at it, drill a few "go faster" holes in the top and over-clock it...
a mod chip isnt really defiling... it's 1 wire from the psu to the chip and doesnt even need to be soldered on for a single use.
Cracking a museum piece open and adding any additional hardware to make it malfunction is defiling it mate as far as I'm concerned. But hey, that's just my opinion. You're also presuming the console won't have a bad reaction of any kind to the presence of a mod-chip and that it functions exactly like a stock Saturn. Yeah there's a next to zero chance of anything bad happening but hey, there's a chance it might ruin one of two Pluto consoles in existence. Again, my opinion. And what is it that people want to see running so badly on this thing that they're coming out with these suggestions anyway?
it should be put it in a glass case with a laser alarm system charge people to view it, but not touch or use! it all just depends on how you see things, i'm more interested in it's technical aspects eg how it differs from a standard retail saturn, whats in side and the bios it's running. other people like your good self see it as a museum piece, collectors item or important archeological discovery and there's nothing wrong with any of that. but taking out some Philips screws and clipping in a modchip for a few mins is hardly the same as painting it pink and drilling holes in it. yes there's a chance it might not work or cause issues but there's also a chance a plane could fall out of the sky and land on it(hopefully not) if sega put money into further development of the saturn there must have been a reason to do so
While I agree with you - A saturn modchip isnt really in the same league as others. You dont need to solder anything. You just disconnect the ribbon cable from the cdrom to the motherboard and the chip sits between them (so cd rom ribbon to chip, chip to motherboard). But yes, I wouldnt modify it personally either - but you could do a saturn chip without "defiling it" like syngry said
OK, I can see your point guys in that it's a slot in mod-chip, I still wouldn't do it though simply because it's only one of two in existence. I'd be too paranoid something would blow on it because the pin-out is different or something. Plus Saturns are a pain in the arse to disassemble as well (more so than any other console I've taken apart to date). I dunno, seems a little too risky just to see if it plays backups. For god's sake, think of the children!!! that never got to play on it...
Just to point out, I am in agreement with Druid - I am certainly not saying to mod it, just thats its technically possible. About taking apart a saturn though - its one of the easiest IMO =/
Damn you druid, coming in here and making me look like an idiot with your dark science. Damn you all! Well apparently I'm cross-eyed then...
5 screws and lifting off the top of the case is a pain in the arse? :-| i know some models have the psu on the top part of the case and some leds etc but again its pretty basic. but yeah again im not saying it should be done, just that it could be, and would be nice to see it in action
Actually I was thinking about getting it stripped all the way down, I forgot you don't need to do that to get at the CD drive ribbon cable. Common Sense & Knowledge: 2 ------- Xeauron: 0 I'm getting panned here, I'm going to play the "It's a museum peice, leave it alone!" card one last time and stop playing.
I'm pretty bad at disassembling anything and honestly I did not have much trouble with the Saturn. Just a couple of ribbon cables you gotta pay attention to if I remember correctly. Something like the 32X for example is much more of a puzzle. But I'd have to agree with Xeauron though, even if it's fairly easy I wouldn't take it apart, at least not myself... Maybe if you leave it in the hands of someone competent enough, but even then I don't know, it feels kind of "sacrilegious", in a way.
No way you'd damage the drive by doing one disc swap. If you do it over and over again you'll ruin the motor for sure. I wouldn't do it to this unit though, since only two are around.
The whole disc swap will kill your drive talk is a load of bull. You have nothing to worry about. I'm using a 1st gen Saturn that I've been disc swapping on since 1995 and it's still going strong! As long as you're not a heavy handed gorilla you won't do the system any damage at all. The Saturn's drive stops when it detects a slight bit of resistance so you won't be straining the drive. Believe me, I've been a Saturn nut before it even hit the selves in Japan. You only need to take a look at my Saturn collection to see that, almost 1300 original Japanese titles or maybe more. I've not counted them in a while.