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Which still doesn't make it fair for him to be illegally detained with added torture, unless they also hang Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld.

I see no gallows, so this too is invalid.

 

Yeah, fuck the government of DK, USA and UK for that matter (and any other fucked up governments out there). Cause our human rights are being violated every mother fucking day ! ! ! So much for our so-called freedom. And while we are at it, fuck Sega for their CoD and Sony for being a bunch of bloody cunts !

 

It's "C&D" guys. CoD is a videogame

 

Who are you referring to?

That isn't what it was for though. It was for helping you buy books, stationary and for travel costs during A/S levels. If you are doing a photography course at university and are from a disadvantaged background you can claim a bursary for a camera.

Personally EMA was an absolute joke - I had friends who received it at college. They spent it on booze and the like. The rest of us had to work all weekend to do the same, unlike those on EMA who didn't have the need to get a job. There were even people whose parents were self employed claiming it, simply declaring their income below the threshold, when it wasn't. Should have reported the fuckers for fraud.

I agree there is need for helping disadvantaged students, but it needs to be done directly rather than Labors time old solution of jizzing money at something and hope it'll fix itself. Provide paper and pens to students, give them bus passes and free/subsidised school meals. Besides, its not as if the grand and a half that people were getting was anywhere near what was required anyway - pencils and paper don't cost that much. I never had the need to buy a book at college. If the college doesn't have a library with background reading material, then it is underfunded. EMA funds would slot in nicely there, and help EVERYONE.

Part of the problem is that politicians all come from the same upper middle class backgrounds put through private education, with their parents funding every aspect of their lives. They now seem to think that anyone above their arbitrary EMA income level throws money at their kids. I never got a fucking penny I didn't earn, at home or in the sweltering pub kitchen, scrubbing pans 20 hours every weekend.

Politics has become a lot worse since it became a career choice, since people started doing politics degrees with the intention of a career in politics. They're all exactly the same, a big club, far more in common with each other (even cross party) than with members of the public, whom they apparently represent.

No one in Politics or media seems to realise what the real problem with higher education is: that supply far outstrips demand, due to polytechnics becoming universities and teaching the same courses as the redbricks. HE should be for intelligent people, many polytechnics let people with sub average A level results in ffs. Anyway, I digress....

 

The G20 protests I believe. The police there hit a man with a baton and he died from it.

I live with my grandma claiming basic child benefit at the moment.

I understand thats not what EMA was for but In my mind it was still atleast going towards something I need (I want to do Video Editing not photography but if thats too then I may not be as bad off)

I agree completely with the bit about people blowing it on booze. People at my school claim EMA (most of the time the parents are employed making a shit tonne anyway) and end up getting shite grades in the end (passes if that) but to say that a few people who fuck around should mess it up for the rest is wrong.

 

True, my girlfriend was let go last week because she was 'handling calls too quickly'. You'd think that would be a good thing on a tech support line, considering the problems are being solved.

I had a similar experience working in a factory, for an agency. Got a call out of the blue saying I've been let go because I wasn't performing well. Even though I was working at a mandatory rate putting cups in boxes, doing exactly the same as everyone else. Let go from the agency too. Its obvious I was just surplus to requirements after the two weeks I was there, though the factory just lied to avoid any obligation to the agency of having me any longer. Glad though as there isn't much worse than standing there for 12 hours putting cups in boxes, and I got a decent job a few days after.

 

I thought he meant Charles de Menezes. That was a truly monstrous fuckup.

 

Ooooh like I did not know that. What about correcting Hawanjas mistake in the particular thread. Cause I think you do not have the balls for that.

Since I of course know it is a cease and decease, and not a COD. But then again CoD could be interpreted as a Cease or Decease of all things.

yup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECMVdl-9SQ

My cat has saved me psychologically in so many ways, so I think she is better than any anti depressant. Well, training a cat takes a LOT of love and nurturing, my cat can do a few things. But then again my cat is one of the best things that has happened for me the last few years.

 

Yeah that was indeed a fuckup. IIRC he ran away from them but to shoot when they had pretty much cornered him was one of the biggest fuckups I've ever heard of.

 

I'm not suggesting it should be fucked up for the rest. Any assistance should be applied directly as I suggested. Sadly the coalition don't agree with me.

As for the camera, if it isn't necessary for the course you may struggle to get funding for it. In such situations you have to put your case across to the university rather than automatically qualifying through your guardian's income - so its just how well you pitch it basically. It may have changed by the time you go to uni though, as I finished a few years ago - again, under labour, when money was jizzed at things - for example a lad in my halls got £800 given to him a term, simply because it was a low demand course. This was despite his parents being very well off and giving him money anyway.

I was wondering if it was that or as Alchy says. Its probably Ian Tomlinson as you say, but what threw me was that it wasn't confirmed whether he was simply walking home or was taking part in the protest. I'd have thought if you were walking home and didn't want to be involved with the protest you would bypass the area. In any case if you watch the footage, he didn't move to get away from the cops. Aggravate riot police and you aren't entirely innocent - there was a degree of blame upon him.

The point I was going to make to WKD is that it was mostly an isolated incident, an unfortunate circumstance that someone susceptible to a heart attack was the one that got hit. It doesn't reflect on human rights in the UK. I don't approve of the Met's tactics like Kettling, but given the media's hysterics about how it was going to be the next Brixton riot I'm not surprised there a few cases of heavy handedness.

(I wrote this before going to tea, just got back and seen the reply, but can't be bothered editing as it won't make any difference)

Put yourself in their boots: you see what seems to be a suicide bomber, running to a crowded train. You have 20 seconds to make an assessment, based on partial information, in a very tense situation. The decision you make could mean the life of one man, or that of 50 or so people, including yourself and your team. Remember that 7/7 was 2 weeks earlier, and there had been failed attempts at bombing that day. A cornered suicide bomber will blow himself up, not surrender.

Unfortunately the guy was innocent, but if he hadn't been the result would have been catastrophic. Not to mention the galling the police would have gotten from the press.

 

I think I would much rather go for something that would subdue him(tazer or maybe shoot him in a area that would not be critical) then have all the officers pounce on him. I understand that they had a few seconds if that to make the call but I would always much rather be careful.

 

Holy crap, you guys. Stop weighing down the 'funnies' thread with serious political debate. Take it to the rants thread.

 

That would be pretty dangerous if he had been a suicide bomber - he would have had his finger on the bomb trigger if he was. The only real option to instantly disable someone would be a head shot. They were being careful - the police tracking him had confirmation (which i where the whole thing went tits up) that he was part of the failed bombing earlier that day. In their eyes it was one man, or everyone in that carriage.

 

oli_lar: while COP15 was held here, then the local cops arrested an old NUN (none other) and she was out strolling, and she just happened to be around the place where people were peacefully demonstrating, also the Danish armoured swine, they let their young police men become provocateurs , and entices the normal demonstrators, to become "violent" also. A documentary showed, that one of the police leaders said he wanted to see the "batons to be glowing red" aka. bloody red. How is that to protect and serve any one ? except for the fucking numbskulls of the politicians including the bastard
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. So if you asked me, then many cops here are just armoured fascists who can get away with violence, and believe me when I say this. I can mention a LOT of cases about the Danish police. And how wrong that is.

 

I think anyone should be allowed to wear whatever the hell they want. And all religion seems to be nothing but ass-backwards bullshit these days.

 

Yeah, this was my thought at first. But they have the damn things FORCED on them, and they are brainwashed into not being able to wear anything else. It is a demeaning symbol of oppression. Sure, they should be able to wear them. But nobody should be able to force them.

I mean, they can wear headscarves and whatnot... but that all face covering thing, that is not voluntary. It's the community, the religion, family that makes them wear this against their will.

I mean, if it is religious obligation to wear this freedom-killing shit, but the ones imposing it call it "freedom of religion" - it's like Catch 22.

Also, quoting Carlin's great commandment, "thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself".

 

Amen, it is no wonder I see myself as the most atheistic theist. George Carlin was the shit, and also he supported the LGBT of things, which is even more cool. One of my favourite quotes from him is "fucking is legal, selling is legal, why is "selling fucking" illegal ?". And in other crazy news, it looks like the country of Jordan is going to have a blasphemy case , and they have called Kurt Westergaard to a hearing. Because they are trying to make a blasphemy case on the grounds of the 12 drawings and they are thinking about cutting all diplomatic ties to Denmark. So I really doubt, that Kurt Westergaard is so stupid, and will get to Jordan for a hearing, and second of all Jordan can take a fucking hike for all I care. Jesus titty fucking Christ, and here I thought the shit was over, but when you are speaking about the devil..

 

I have to wear a suit to a job interview. Who's outraged? Am I brainwashed?

I'm going to have to go with the "wear whatever the hell you want" angle. Lots of people wear shit that I think looks stupid, and no doubt they think I look wrong too; whatever the case, it's not my place to impose a dress code on anyone. To do so is cultural imperialism and I think we've got that in spades as it is. Who am I to tell them what to wear?

As far as Carlin's great commandment goes, you're on the wrong side of it - keep thy religious views to thyself. I don't like burkas any more than you do, but it's not my religion, it's not my culture, and it's not my business.

 

Alchy: stop being a whiny bitch after all it is Friday LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383ZGwzIzqs

Or if you feel you are in a winning mood, then you can always enjoy this one instead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg

And if you like the beatboxing talent of the first video, you can always check out his beatboxing of the Winning song.

Or if you want to go "old school"

Then you can always enjoy the video that outed a lot of closet PC dancers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk

Sorry, I have just been to town and gotten myself some alcohol in me, so I am feeling pretty smashing good.

 

That's nice to know, dear.