XBOX new console is "Xbox one" no 360 backwards compatibility, 8 core, 500gb, 8gb ram

I already have plan to get PS4. Sony got better exclusive games and free online. That all I care.

Can't wait for last of us and GT6 on PS3

 

No thank you. This system is just too big brother for my taste.

I give it a year after this system comes out at the most before we hear the first story about law enforcement busting someone by listening in with the "Always on" Kinnect.

 

Maybe that's more to encourage Day one sales?

 

The fact that they haven't come out and said that it will not happen means that there will be some kind of limitation.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-...ed-fee/0115911


Quote:


UPDATE 4: This is the official line from Microsoft: "We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We’ll have more details to share later." Microsoft representatives are not clarifying whether a fee will need to be played to play pre-owned games, or how much that fee will be.

UPDATE 5: At this stage we can quite confidently conclude that there IS some kind of pre-owned limitation, or else Microsoft would simply confirm there is not. The shape of this limitation is less clear. Will pre-owned games need to be 'activated' via a fee? Can users 'deactivate' games they trade-in? Will this eradicate the need to 'reactivate' the game for the next owner?


'the hell is going?

 

MCVUK is a terrible source for anything. Plus they pulled the article.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-a-fee-to-play
Update 2: Our man on the ground Tom Bramwell was able to speak to corporate vice president of Microsoft Phil Harrison about this hot-button issue and was able to confirm that a second user can install a game from a friend's disc for a fee, though it's unclear how much this will be. Harrison also confirmed that several users sharing a console can access the same game at no additional charge, and Microsoft has "a solution" for the resale market, though it's staying mum on those for now.

 

lol wut

 

This is in all game websites. Here's some examples:

Destructoid: http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-won-t-support-xbox-360-xbla-games-254177.phtml

Siliconera: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/2...-to-use-your-discs-under-a-different-account/

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-may-have-mandatory-game-installs

All linking to Wired, who had exclusive info / photos of the console reveal.


Anyway, a friend of mine just pointed out something we are missing. Wasn't Microsoft bragging about that this was all about games?

 

I'm so unimpressed with this thing. I'm not even calling it a console because they aren't treating it as one, all they blabbed about was how you could watch live TV, download music, and Skype all at the same time. Big whoop! People have been able to do that for years. This is a gaming machine, that's why people buy consoles, that's what we're interested in and all you got to show on that front was the same old garbage sports games. Ugh, lets see what they pull out at E3, not holding hope for anything redeeming though, MS, Sony, and Nintendo all seem to be coming out with huge piles of crap this era.

 

Are people honestly impressed with Krank and a 'NEW' Killzone? I thought both conferences were terrible. To say Sony brought the games is laughable.

 

they were all quoting wired who got a stern warning from Microsoft and corrected the info.

Used games, no fee have been confirmed.

 

Yep, agreed. Sony thought a touchpad on their controller and Facebook sharing were impressive...big whoop. Not to mention the most laughable bit, connectivity with the Vita, which may be dead by the time PS4 is released.

 

Am I the only one who actually likes the bulky, 90's VCR look of the system? My opinion might change once I get a firsthand look and feel of the system, but right now I kinda like it.

Activision has come forward against used games (reason why they bundle weapons/maps/other crap with new copies of CoD games), EA has been against used games for the longest and if I recall correctly even at one point threatened to drop next gen support unless the PS4/Xbox One had built in anti-used games measures, and Bethesda has also stated that used games are a serious problem in the industry (even though their games sell millions regardless. Fuckers can't be grateful.)

That's 3 for sure. Capcom could likely be thrown in the mix for some of their past actions (not allowing players to delete saves in RE: Mercenaries 3D). Like 7Force stated, even if publishers don't outright admit it, their actions paint a clear picture of their stance on the issue.

And what are Day 1 sales likely to be? Not used.

Not that I had a problem with it back when they actually offered tangible objects. Now it's mainly just locking content and using it as a "bonus". Even worse when they lock numerous content and release them at separate stores so there's no way to get it all unless they sell it to you later (those kind, generous publishers), waste a ton of money getting the codes from each store, or you find "other methods" of acquiring them.

 

I think it's hilarious that a tech website that has exclusive info, videos and pictures of your new product, interviewed the senior industrial designer of the thing, somehow gave incorrect info.

I"ll wait for the next chapter on this.

EDITED: MCVUCK is on Update #8 on this. What a mess:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-one-will-not-always-on-but-will-have-pre-owned-fee/0115911

 

I dunno, it kinda looks like a fat Wii. Oh and having to have the Kinect attached all the time to actually use the console (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached), well

 

I look forward to seeing someone smash one of these into pieces on launch day to the utter dismay of m$ fanboys.

I'll personally be purchasing a PS4 unless Sony somehow manages to completely drop the ball before launch.

Edit: Also, think of the poor kids who ask for an "Xbox One" for Christmas and get an Xbox1 instead :'(

 

Some clarity for you folks, via Phil Harrison: http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-t...cros-509140825 But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says".".

 

Microsoft isn't outright saying they are charging people to play used games. You just have to buy an offline pass to play them once their loaded on the new harddrive which is mandatory. Its all corporate speak but the same thing. So yeah, you buy the Used game from a store and then have to buy a license to play the Used game from Microsoft since the old license was already used by the first owner. Awful.

 

Some good comments:

The most amazing thing is that MS was unprepared for this. Any regular GAF reader could have told you that any whiff of changing the system for pre-owned/sharing would be met with a firestorm.
Why not have an airtight response ready right now? It's just inexplicable

This is exactly what I am wondering. This has to be some of the worst PR mishandling of an event I have ever seen. This is after the months of speculation that Microsoft let fester and the whole Adam Orth thing. It is just inconceivable that they didn't foresee this and at least have something prepared. It seems like their own people are confused about what is going on. Either that or they are just arguing semantics at this point about what "blocking used games" really means.


I cannot believe there is STILL no definitive answer.
The fact that Microsoft isn't trying harder to dispel this rumor -- which has been around for months now -- makes me think there is some truth to it.
They keep dancing around it.

Exactly, they knew people hate this.
If it wasnt true, they would have made a big deal out of it on stage.



Liked Eurogamer's interview as well:

EG: Why can't you talk about it today?

Harrison: Today is about introducing the platform and it's about introducing the big themes of what Xbox One is about as a new entertainment device that brings together games, TV and entertainment into one place. I think it's inappropriate for us to go into every avenue of tiny little detail today, but we will in due course, so...

EG: Okay. I mean, it's just funny having come from a panel where the amount of detail they were going into on the silicon and power-switching on that, to come in here and be told you can't talk about something that it sounds like you already know the answer to and would clear up a lot of people's suspicions and concerns.

Harrison: Well, let me say it again: we will have a solution that we will talk about in very short order about how previously played games can be traded between players.

 

"Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once."

http://kotaku.com/yo...icros-509140825

So it does require Online authentication.

They won't say. But i'm guessing once you are done with a game they invalidate the CD Key and give you like half the game's value in MSFTPoints


SEE YA MSFT. This Xbox one may be good for my parents to use to watch TV and stuff. But that's about it.

The only possible thing that compels me about this thing is the Halo TV series and Halo 5-6 and possible "Full HD" versions of past games. (Yeah laugh. I haven't played 4 yet. I have it but am hesitant to play it after the continuity clusterfuck that Halo Reach was. I am afraid everything after will reference Halo Reach's version of The Fall of Reach instead of the true Fall of Reach.)

I feel even better about deciding on buying a GTX Titan for my next PC now.



They couldn't even bother to put Xbox 1 Emulation BC in there? if the 360 could do it in software(poorly) there's no WAY in hell they couldn't do it on this all powerful XBOX ONE!
What about 360 controller compatibility? No XBLA carry over? You couldn't create a program for developers to easily port their games and then allow owners of the game on 360 to pay a small fee for the One version? (AlA VC games on Wii to Wii U)

The PS4 should be able to at least have 100% perfect PS1/2 emulation as well considering the PS3 does it pretty well.
But no they don't want users to be able to play their own games, no one stops to think if you allow both DD versions and your own discs everyone is happy. I've bought my share of PS1 classics on PSN alongside my actual PS1 games. (Not to mention only allowing PS Move from PS3 to be compatible on PS4 screws up compatibility with PS1/2/3 games via streaming due to no analog buttons)



Call of Duty ghosts level of detail is incredibly inconsistent
Resolution looks sub-native with poor AA And judging by the lack of motion blur, it will probably be 720p(or 1080) 60FPS.
Unless the footage they are pandering around as Xbox one footage is actually Xbox 360 footage.



Microsoft is the new Sony running on an inflated Ego. Thinking their users are a bunch of morons who would sit back and get assfucked and not even care