Xbox Powering up only by using eject button?

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  1. gandalfnz

    gandalfnz Spirited Member

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    Hi guys

    Today I obtained a halo limited edition original Xbox, it came with super rare, official HD component pack.

    However, I have been told the box is chipped (haven't opened to check it yet). The console boots into the default xbox dash.

    I wanted to run an ISO of Xbox auto installer deluxe, but every time I try to power the console up via the power button, its like as if it tries to turn on 3 times, some click noise can be heard, then just flashes red-green.

    It does however power up, every time, when I press the eject button.

    Any idea on this?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  2. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Depending on the modchip, booting with Eject disables the modchip. So if you're booting then getting a set of christmas lights, then it's a possibility that the hard disk inside is unlocked, when booting with a disabled modchip, the system will error since the system needs the hard disk to be locked.

    What's a little weird is that, you're mentioning if you power up by the power button it boots 3 times and frags. That's usually an issue with the LPC points where the modchip is installed insisting the install is bad. I'd probably open it up and inspect it.
     
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    Thanks for your quick reply.

    Yes, I have been told by the seller, that it hasnt been used for ages, so its possible the mod-chip install is buggered....

    I will open the console this coming weekend, and have a look.

    Yep, it tries to power up I would say 3 times, and some faint clicking noises are heard, then it just starts flashing red-green.

    Thanks
     
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    Ok

    I got it opened, I have no idea how the modchip should be wired...

    Mod-chip seems to have been professionally installed, I mean the solder points look good to me.

    Is it possible the the mod chip is dead?

    I have no idea, if its properly installed or not. Green wire goes to the eject button, red wire goes underneath the board, and is soldered to a very tiny solder point.

    Here are some photos.... any suggestions would be appreciated.



    Thanks

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    UPDATE:

    I have just resoldered the header, the one the mod chip sits on, now the console boots fine when using the power button, but still goes to default Xbox dash, and there is not "blue" xbox logo when booting.

    I dont know if the mod chip is actually working or not.

    From what I could find out on the net, I have a 1.5 board.

    Thanks
     
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    The modchip should have a red LED if it's active while power is on.
     
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    Holy sheet! Hope you got it for a good deal! 1.5s are pretty rare my halo box is a 1.4 fitted with a Winbond flash (all 1.4 seem to use Winbond) you have a Thompson flash unit..

    the eh triple boot thing is to do with the lpc, when you connect an EEPROM reader it does the same thing but turns orang, do the fans ramp up? I beleive that's a fail safe so the system does not overheat (MS put the consoles into big racks whilst flashing the EEPROMs)

    Is the stock hdd in there?
    It could have a corrupted EEPROM or bios , when you boot off the LPC it disables the stock bios (in term the stock eeprom containing drive keys, MAC address and region mode ect)

    pull the mobo out and check the botto, pretty sure 1.5 require some sort of lpc rebuild
     
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    The LED does not come on whe xbox is powered up.

    What would the steps be to troubleshoot this?

    Thanks
     
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    Is 1.5 good or bad?

    I tested the LPC pin 2 and it is not connected to ground, I guess that means its 1.5.

    I got it for very cheap.

    Thanks
     
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    I editid my post ^

    and yes ID consider a 1.5 rare thus good :) but only if it has the original hdd..

    pin one looks burnt on that modchip the one closest to the green wire,
     
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    Yep, everything on it is original.

    I got the bundle mainly because of the HD component pack, as they are really rare too.

    I am a bit confused with your reply above, my technical knowledge when it comes to game consoles is not that great.

    You think the chip has been installed incorrectly?


    EDIT: I see what you mean by burnt on that pcb, this solder point connects directly to the header, right?

    Do you know which pins provide the power supply to the mod chip? Maybe this will be a good starting point.

    I will need to re-inspect this tomorrow.

    Thanks
     
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    If the chip ends up being completely fucked, it wouldn't matter. It's a crap modchip anyway. If you're getting no power what so ever to the chip, then it could be ruined, or not installed right.

    I would remove it personally, then TSOP the system.
     
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    Does TSOP mean a Soft MOD?

    Maybe I should just leave this console as stock, remove the chip.

    The thing is, I wanted something for LAN, but I need at least one to be modded, so that I dont have to get two copies of the same game.

    I already ruined one xbox recently when trying to to Soft MOD.

    I would like to fix the mod chip mod, is there any good/simple guides, that I could follow for 1.5?


    Thanks
     
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    1.5 is pretty much the same.

    TSOP refers the the Bios on the xbox, it is a non volatile flash chip, meaning data is NOT lost if the chip looses power.

    here is the data sheet for the bios flash in my 1.0 xbox http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheet/stmicroelectronics/6480.pdf

    give it a read, it may help you understand a little better :) (well that's how I lern stuf haha)

    TSOP (thin small outline package) is used incorrectly in the xbox scene (I have no clue why), TSOP is just a 'package' type, it's what the flash rom, micro controller or what ever comes as. For example the ROM that the bios of an xbox is contained in is package type "TSOP 40 (M)".

    TSOP does not really refer to the contense ..

    Correct term is simply BIOS or onboard BIOS
     
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    I just opened my halo unit, it actually has the same bios flash as yours! BUT I checked pin 2 and it goes to ground. Another odd thing is the clock capacitor on mine is gold coloured nichicon 1F 2.5v

    nothing special but thought is add that..
     
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    Thanks for all the help!

    I have decided to flash the Xbox, but I dont know how I can copy the splinter cell save file from PC to Xbox?

    I have a splinter cell game and Xbox memory unit....

    Have taken one memory unit apart, and made a usb adapter, but none of my flash sticks are compatible.

    Thanks
     
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  17. LeHaM

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    Im uploading a TSOP tutorial tonight, with the memory card, Sandisk 2gb cruisers work perfect. You can wire a male usb connector to the pins on the memory card, copy the files and then desolder the usb cable..


    If you need to know what to do (all files are in the description)
     
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    Thank you for that.

    I actually did solder a male usb connector to the memory unit, but PC does not recognise it, nor does it ask for format the mem unit, it just comes up as device not recognizable...?

    Also, the Xplorer does not detect the memory unit at all.

    Awesome tutorial btw....


    Does this look right?

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    It may be backwards .. Try swapping data - and data +


    thanks :)
     
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    Just tried swapping data + and -, results are the same, windows does not recognize it, neither does Xplorer.

    I dont understand, why wont it work...

    Thanks
     
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