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How has the PS3 price affected you?

  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    PS3 $600

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    INUSTRY WOE PREDICTED

    In what has to be one of the worst outcomes possible, Sony announced

    that PS3 would be priced at $500, and $600 respectively. This mean with a
    second controller and game, you're looking at $700 for a PS3 on launch day.

    What does this mean for the industry? Personally I fear it means bad times. I
    polled over 30 gamers and found that they found xbox 360 far too expensive to
    buy at the moment. There are large stacks of unsold 360 in the stores as is. PS3 at $600 surely is a slap in the face to the price conscious
    consumer.


    Personally I cannot see spending $700 anytime soon, right after a $500 360
    purchase. It remains to be seen if people are willing to lay out laptop computer
    level money for the pleasure of playing a game. I would personally purchase a
    $400 graphics accelerator instead.


    With the Wii expected to be a very inexpensive alternative, nintendo may be on to something big, very big.
     
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  2. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Yes , the price is stiff indeed, and the games don't seem to be there (for me at least). However, regarding the Wii, I wish developers would push the hardware to its limits from day one, regarding visuals, since the hardware is known more-or-less. The new tony hawk is disgraceful, and Rayman seems to be mediocre at best.

    Just because developers can be innovative on the gameplay side, doesn't give them an excuse to be lazy in presentation. The Wii depends on quality from all sides, not just gameplay, within its natural processing limits.
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    All I can say is at $600, every single game better be a fucking miracle masterpiece, and know they won't be, don't expect much interest on my part.
     
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    Sony, this time, is not selling a console. The big-wigs in the company want to sell a multimedia machine that can a)play games, b)play movies (both DVD and bluray) c) browse the internet d)possibly become a DVR e) shop from home. All of this gives them the reason to price a system so high.

    There was a story on slashdot stating that sony's venture into the videogame industry is only a side-quest. What they truly want to do, it control all the features of the living room, and basic PC activities in an all-in-one proprietary system. We are buying multimedia machines, a one size fits all. Its no longer a console. Nintendo is a console and that is why I think they aptly named their next-gen console the revolution. All the Wii is is just a gaming console, nothing else. Its revolutionary when you compare it to the other next-gen systems that try to do everything all at once. Nintendo kept it simple, which is why I think it will come out to be the winner in the older gamer's minds..
     
  5. ASSEMbler

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    Someone just told me for $500 and no hdmi out, they can kiss his ass.
     
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  6. SuperGrafx

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    It's almost as if Trip Hawkins is working in Sony's finance dept or something. The last time we saw consoles priced around the $600 range was during the ill-fated debut of the 3DO.
    Suddenly the 360 looks like an even better value in comparison.
     
  7. ASSEMbler

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    Wii HAVE A WINNER!!!!

    AT THE LOWEST PRICE POINT

    IT'S WII !!


     
  8. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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  9. ASSEMbler

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    AllI can say is it's obvious the cost is also related to the size. If they made it twice as big, they could probably make it for $400 or less.

    It's pure disaster.

    Do they have any idea how long it will take to sell 10 million of these?

    This is a nightmare, the first console crash was plagued by hight prices too.
     
  10. SuperGrafx

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    Are they also shooting for a $60 per game price point? Or has that not been discussed yet?
     
  11. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    If any other company would do this I would be laughing very hard and pointing fingers. But with a brand-name like the PlayStation, which is synonymous nowadays with video games for most people (people who you won't find surfing the net regularly, or post in forums), including the opposite sex, it might just get away with it. Idealy Sony wants to bite a share that belongs to the PCs but the trick is that PCs are so much cheaper and offer so much more at 600 US greens.

    EDIT: Ps3 will probably offer a flexible first in video games. Video game console insurance to protect your investment :p
     
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  12. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    I already have an insurance rider just for electronics. :nod:

    Well, everyone was wondering when one of the big three was going to get out of the console market. I just wish that they would pull their head out of their asses and understand that not everyone wants a web/shopping/community portal in their damn living room. I want a game console, that's it.

    I think that it is fairly agreed upon that a large number of consoles are bought by parents for children. There is no way in hell that most parents can afford this AND the gas to drive to the store and buy it.

    Oh, and there needs to be another poll option: $599 is insane, but I'll get one anyway.
     
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  13. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Assembler, what are the different prices for? I assume it's like the two different versions of the 360 that were released. What are the different features? Also, where did you get those figures?
     
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    can anyone recall Sony's comments about the 360? Sony said that offering two packages will create confusion. And now Sony themselves are releasing a console which unlike the 360 is probably not upgradable to a "full" Ps3.
     
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    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Man, all I can say is that the PS3 launch better be REALLY good... although I'll probably buy it regardless.
     
  17. ASSEMbler

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    Let's calculate this using the average minimum wage of $5.50 in the usa.

    PS3 with one game, and 2nd controller plus 5% tax. (Europeans are screaming right now over the vat)

    After federal tax, you make about $4.60 an hour at a minimum wage job.

    $735 / 4.60

    Means youhave to work 160 hours to buy a PS3
    OR
    Nearly seven straight days without sleep
    OR
    Four weeks of 40 hours a week (one month)

    Average us income is $43,000 so PS3 represents a purchase near 2% of your total
    yearly income.
     
  18. Rob

    Rob Guest

    Holy crap. I never posted much here in the first place (due to my ignorance when it comes to the obscure and dev stuff), but I haven't even been around to read much here lately for a couple reasons: One, I've been *very* broke and I've found that if I don't look at stuff that I want to buy (like things posted in the eBay links), I'm a lot less likely to blow my money. Two, I just haven't been entertained by video games very much lately. I haven't had any time to play them between school and work, but on the rare occasions that I do play, I haven't had fun (especially the newer stuff) and stop after a couple minutes. I've realized that both of these factors would contribute heavily in my decision on whether or not to buy a next-gen system when the time came.

    Now I read this news. This could be the final nail in the coffin of my 20 or so years of enjoying games. Combine a severe lack of games that I find a enjoyable (and that really could just be my problem) with a price that's WAY out of the average consumers price range for what many people consider a luxury at best and a toy at worst, and I don't see how Sony can realistically expect this to succeed. SuperGrafX beat me to it, but this really is reminiscent of the 3DO.

    Sony may have grand plans for their playstation line to be a media center for the living room, but too many people see it now (and will continue to see it) as, first and foremost, a video game system. And I doubt many people are willing to shell out that kind of money for a video game system - they certainly haven't in the past.

    It's been said before, but if Nintendo pulls off what they're claiming they will with the Wii, the (hopefully) lower price and (hopefully) innovative games could be enough to not only bring people like me back to gaming, but take a good chunk of Sony's customers away in the process. If this is how Sony is going to run things, I wish Nintendo the best of luck.
     
  19. Kittyhawk

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    Guess I better start saving...

    Sony's on top right now in the video game market, so it figures if it charges a little more, it won't matter. People will buy it because it's a PlayStation. They forget that the reason so many PS2s were bought early on was due to it being a DVD player as well. Gamers weren't scared of the price, and the not-so-hardcore (like casual gamers and parents buying for kids) were willing to shell out $300 for a console if it was also a DVD player, which were still a little expensive back in 2000.

    However, this is 2006, and DVD players are cheap and at Wal-mart for $30. PS2 sells for $129, and that's fine and dandy for parents and casual gamers. But if Sony introduces a new console at a price tag of $500+, you can kiss those consumers good bye. Suddenly the PS3 becomes a huge purchase. Why buy a pricey PS3 when you could just buy a console from the previous generation or the Wii? To them, it's just something to do, but it shouldn't cost too much. And they're not going to buy a PS3 because it's a Blu-ray player as well. That's just silly. :lol:

    Now the hardcore gamers will probably shell out a lot for a brand new PS3, but I doubt that's enough to actually give Sony the sales they normally enjoy. Who knows? Maybe it will sell at that price, and I'll be totally shocked.
     
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  20. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    you know what i can give xbox credit on,is all thats missing is a hdd and you get a wired controller with the core, this idea of cutting features on the cheaper model is ridiculess. I hope sega comes to their

    sense and consideres a 360 port of virtua fighter 5, cause making it ps3 exclusive already sounds like their shooting themselves in the foot.
     
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