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How has the PS3 price affected you?

  1. Fabrizo

    Fabrizo Resolute Member

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    Im loving the idea of having PS2 games in high def (or at least at resolutions that take advantage of what standard def is capable of), and Final Fantasy XIII looks entertaining. However at $600 (about the same as my rent), and the guarantee that it will break within a few months I believe I will be holding off on the PS3 for a good while after the launch. Then again I never buy home consoles until they've been out on the market for at least 1-2 years (though I do itend to break that habbit for the Wii/Revolution launch).
     
  2. Ringo

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    How is this a good idea?

    With 360 you can make the core a premium, with ps3 its a tard pack untill you shell out another 599, plus when they implement HDCP over HDMI you get 480p output from your "499 Blueray player", which you can get a $40 DVD player that does that now. How is a "casual gamer" that does not need all the bells and whistles going to justify a $499 game box when a Wii turns out to be halfish that. The ones that want the normal system ARE screwed for not wanting extra features IMHO. Who wants a $499 DVD/game player? Last I checked you can get one for $129.99.

    This is the biggest mistake ive ever seen from a console maker. How many people are going to be angry when they find out the PSP won't hook up to the tard pack due to lack of Wifi, and wont play blueray at full defintion when HDCP is turned on and NO way to upgrade to use those features?

    Oh and what about if Blueray format gets left in the dust like Beta. That box that cost $599 at launch for nothing but games looks like a pretty stupid purchase.

    Talk about splitting your market.

    Sorry Kittyhawk but that is the worst arguement ive seen for ps3 today.

    Thank you Sony for giving us a REAL tard er core pack, truly worthy of the name, unlike some other companies.

    If this is an arguement for the PS3, Id hate hear one against it.
     
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  3. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Well, sw emu is first for me since the zig cores have enough computational power. But again, i could be wrong on that...
     
  4. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    I totally agree with you Yakumo.

    With that price, i won't get a PS3 anytime soon (and i had to wait 2 years for a PS2... just imagine how much time i'll wait for till i "plan" to get a PS3).
     
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  5. Sienar

    Sienar Robust Member

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    Might I just say...

    PS3=Sega Saturn

    Both launched for a relatively high price, although Sony now makes Sega's decision seem reasonable

    Both had relatively complex and unusual hardware

    Both were/are rush jobs

    Both have Virtua Fighter exclusititvity, but that's a good thing



    And we all know how the Saturn turned out for Sega



    That being said, I will get one despite the assured quality of the first Bluray. drives, with MGA, resistance, and of course VF5 will be driving my purchase. As for the controller, joystiq said it felt unrefined in the warhawk demo, but it's doubtful that the tilting will ever be truely utelized, much like the mic on the 2nd Famicom controller. And also, with the high pricepoint and GTA launching on a cheaper system simultaneously, I believe Sony will lose much of their parent and collage student purchasers.

    And one final thing, the system's controller number has dropped from 7 to 4. Also, the thing is now covered in air vents- http://www.e3insider.com/images/?type=photopax&articleID=RLGF8XTXVU
     
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  6. Ringo

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    And larger then any of the mockups. I read its larger than an Xbox, can anyone confirm this?
     
  7. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Most likely emulation....
     
  8. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Won't happen. Virtua Fighter is a Japanese franchise. The sales of VF4 in Japan compared to America are sick. After complete dedication to the arcades, the system that Japanese play comes next. We won't see it on the 360 unless Sega thinks there's enough people in the west to warrant a port (which I doubt they will).
     
  9. People, Nintendo hasn't stated the price of the Wii yet. They said it will be less than $500, but didn't say it would be $250 (that was only a rumor). I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii went for $349.99 USD.

    I have been saying it for awhile now, but a videogame crash is coming. With the price of these next gen systems AND games, coupled with the high price of gasoline and increasing interest rates, not many people have discretionary income to pay for items like these. However, maybe the used game market or rental market will be booming instead? Maybe time to buy stock in those game rental places.
     
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  10. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    A crash is not coming. You guys realize that when the industry bottomed out in the 80's, it was a speck on the ass of the GDP of any nation? Now, it's actually a respectably large market. Things will change, but people aren't going to just quit buying games fo the love of God.

    It only failed in the west. It was a success in Asia. Doesn't mean I agree with Sony's price point, but there are a few sides to every story. Making a product to meet standards of all markets is pretty tricky. Then again, at this price, pissing off everyone is very likely.
     
  11. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    We're in for slow times for major dev houses. Let's face it, the ps2 has so many units sold, it's going to be hard for the big players to get used to there only being 1-3 million units installed versus 20+ million.

    What I can see is them extending ps2 support for a long time, and dual versions where the only difference is graphics. The lack of difference in gameplay is what is hurting 360.

    You have a graphical difference but none in gameplay.
     
  12. joehax

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    Am I missing something with Blu-Ray?

    I was at the local tech fair here in Sydney, Panasonic had a display with some widescreen tv on 1080p with a Blue-Ray movie going (was just some people jumping around) and to be honest all I could see was that the colours were more vibrant, it wasnt any more clearer and in some parts i noticed there was some of that digital ghosting around the faster moving objects

    Wasnt very impressed either way :\
     
  13. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    BluRay & HD-DVD should be just as "clear" as normal DVD. They only visible difference is that they are higher resolution, and have cooler names like BluRay, and HD-DVD, which alone make them much more valuable!
     
  14. A. Snow

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    Sony is taking a really risky move here and if I were them I'd be very worried. Blu-Ray's future is directly linked to the PS3. At least in my opinion. The faster they put Blu-Ray in the home the faster they win the format war and the PS3 is their best way to do that. At $600.00 there are going to be a lot fewer PS3 in homes which means Sony just gave up a big edge in both the HD and console wars. Bad times for Sony if they lose those.

    I'm also just stunned at the stupidity of that core package for the PS3. I thought Microsoft's version was stupid but wow this takes the cake. At least with the 360 you had the option to build it up to a deluxe pack at a later date. With the core PS3 you're just screwed if you get it. I can't see anyone who will want that package. Let's be honest, People who are willing to pay $500.00 for a game system are the type of people who given the chance will pay the extra $100.00 for the deluxe pack. Hell, I've never met a person who willingly bought a 360 core pack over a deluxe pack.
     
  15. liquitt

    liquitt Site Soldier

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    and sony strikes again! wow, great...can't say anything more now. do you think they also built in rootkit?
     
  16. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    I could sworn i read an interview where the president of nintendo gaurenteed it be less then 299.99 us. Honestly what makes teh ps3 a tougher sell is you cant even add on the feautre you dont have like the 360. Plus is anyone going to really use that thing like a pc?
     
  17. ASSEMbler

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    HD DVD and BLue ray have more layers. It's like stacked dvds, to be crude in explaining it.
    The pits are also closer together.

    The ps3 pricing seems to me, to be frank, priced so that the ps3 won't bankrupt sony, as crazy as that sounds.

    If they are selling at $599, it must cost them $750 to make or $700 to make.

    Add in packing, and for only 3 million ps3 units sold, sony is going to lose
    ONE BILLION DOLLARS

    Not taking into account advertisement.

    This system could be a 100% success and still ruin sony.
     
  18. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    Let's hope it at least puts enough of a dent in them that they finally realize they should be selling game consoles, not living room PC's.
     
  19. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Hey if you dint catch the microsoft conference they are going to give official support down there!
     
  20. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Someone asked if anyone would use it as a PC. Actually I'm more interested in using it as a PC than a gaming machine. It looks nowhere as fun as a Wii to play with (and i 've played with my Wii all my life..ehr..never gets old) , but all that computational power just cries for crunching numbers and pushing applications. Hopefully there will be peripherals such as a DVD-R/W drive or something, because a PC with memory cards as a saving solution just isn't much of a PC.
     
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