Increase of children means we will need alanguage filter

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  1. Xeauron

    Xeauron Intrepid Member

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    What is with all the people saying you shouldn't be online with kids in the room? Have you been around kids all that much people. You try spending your entire time staring at them, you'll stroke out from boredom after 5 minutes. Going online doesn't necessarily involve a PC any more people, you can have a tablet handy and just put it down if you're needed.

    There seems to be a weird, "oh my god, you should be watching your kids not online!" vibe in here at the moment. If they're 3 years or younger then you should probably be watching them at all times, but they aren't the age group who are supposedly 'at risk' from seeing foul language since they can't read well if at all. We're talking about the 6-12 bracket - ish.

    I'm NOT advocating for the blanket site swear filter here, just trying to understand this weird notion that if you don't watch all kids at all times they'll spontaneously combust or something.

    I was saying before it would be beneficial to those busy parents if a voluntary swear filter were available to them to alleviate this, since a lot of collectors are now adults and have families. And it seems to be this demographic who are complaining and requesting steps be taken. It would mean everyone could carry on as before and those who want it can enable it. I'm not a parent but I understand that things in the home can happen suddenly and you're needed, screens go unattended unintentionally and that's where this stems from I think.
     
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  2. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Well you see, my parents would always be doing something around the house but still keeping watch on me. My mother would be cooking, and would still check up on me every so often. I'm no parent, and I won't be for a long time, or maybe never and all kids are different. However blaming the forum for users swearing in text because kids are around, is just plain stupid.
     
  3. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Pretty sure youngest kids legally allowed to register would be 13+ due to COPPA?
     
  4. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    Rule #1 On the Internet, Everyone is over 18/21 whichever the DOB select says you need to be :)
     
  5. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Well yes, but if they are lying to register - not our problem.
     
  6. kingkat

    kingkat Robust Member

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    I kind of skipped over the 3rd and 4th pages, but I haven't seen anyone point out the fact that the age group most likely to be affected by this would be 9-12 years old. Any younger, they likely are too young to know how to register/ have an email to register with, any older then (in my opinion) they should be considered mature enough to know not to use these words as they have likely already been exposed to them, and if they don't, then that is the fault of their parents for not performing their responsibilities. Anyways, if anyone ever plays/ has played any Call of Duty video game online and entered the game chat room, you will find that the majority of players are under 15 years old/ in this age group and are swearing/ making inappropriate remarks left and right, while those who are of age are generally less keen to swear. If any filter must take place due to children of this age group joining, it shouldn't be to limit adults from abusing curse words, but rather, to limit these children.

    Also, there is quite a bit of sexual related content/ references in the funny pictures thread, although I think it is awesomely funny, it should probably be moderated a bit more as the children in discussion would be more negatively effected by/ exposed to sexual content rather than foul language.

    Side note, a great way to check age group for registration would be to include cultural references (ie. music/ movies/ tv show quote) from the 80's/ early-mid 90's that one must complete in order to register :)
     
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  7. MaxWar

    MaxWar <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Welcome to ***embler forum! Home of the obscure.
     
  8. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    EGGzackTilly

    Parenting and content auditing is THE PARENT'S JOB << solely. If someone doesn't want their kids exposed to harsh language (which is minimal at best on here anyway) monitor them or ban them from: The internet, TV, Public places containing other people, Bars Restaraunts, infact, why not have their eyes surgically removed and their ears disabled. might want to numb all feeling too incase someone says fuck in braille.

    At the end of the day there are only 3 points that matter.

    First and foremost, this is Assemblers site and what the chief says goes.
    Secondly: If you are a good parent and bring your kids up right, then they will be right, ristricting them / sheilding them does not achieve this in fact it does much the opposite.
    Thirdly and last but not least. Free Will. Everyone has it and will exorcise this as they see fit, regardless of age 13 or 30, their actions and decisions are on them.
     
  9. DefectX11

    DefectX11 Familiar Face

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    That's a normal practice though. But being there the whole time? Woah there, Big Brother
     
  10. sparksterz

    sparksterz Spirited Member

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    lol...that thought never crossed my mind. Pretty classic. I would have to hope if a filter were set up it'd at least be smarter than that :p
     
  11. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    a place i worked for once set a filter up which blocked web access to any sites containing key words, such as "sex" but the filter was pretty dumb and ended up causing silly problems, especially with addresses (essex, sussex, etc) so i would hope it's better than that one
     
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    Druidic teacher Officer at Arms

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  13. Xeauron

    Xeauron Intrepid Member

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    Oh my god, I vomited in my mouth a little looking at that picture. COD = Children's Online Daycare - it really is true...
     
  14. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    No no.

    "Welcome to ASSember Games Forum. Home of the Obscure!"

    Seems about right at this point...
     
  15. Prometheus

    Prometheus Site supporter 2016

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    It's not so much the kids as it is the content. If you think something online will be detrimental to your kids well being, then don't read or watch it near them. Sounds like common sense to me. No one is saying ignore the internet and watch your kids, they're saying don't be an idiot and intentionally view content that you find offensive near your kids, then cry to us about it.

    If he finds the language on here so offensive, then he should use the solution I provided in my previous post. That solution solves his issues far more than ASSEMbler ever could. At best, ASSEMbler would've caved and turned this site into a gaming nursery just like he wanted, but that doesn't fix his language problem with the rest of the internet. By using that script, virtually every website will have a profanity filter. He can view whatever site he wants without fear of his kids becoming corrupted by naughty language. Whether or not he chooses to use my suggestion is of no concern to me, but the fact is there is already a solution to his problem, and according to date of the script, the solution has existed since 2005.

    If he doesn't know how to use greasemonkey despite it's simplicity, maybe he ought to view another site while in the company of his kids. There are literally thousands of sites to choose from; this isn't the only retro gaming site on the internet. Why demand this one meet your standards when the one you want most likely already exists?

    Look, I'm all for a "Profanity is frowned upon, please try to limit it" rule, but come on. This site has been around since 2004 (long before that too), this "issue" the site apparently has has not been brought up until now, and most people disagree with the person who raised the issue in the first place. What logical sense does it make for ASSEMbler to go through the hassle of figuring out how to install an optional (or not) profanity filter for the site or an age requirement for registration just because one clearly uptight person wants it his way, especially when I already posted a far simpler solution that takes less than 60 seconds to get running?

    EDIT: I'm not trying to condemn him for wanting to protect his kids from the Mos Eisley Cantina known as the internet. In this day and age, it's nice to see a parent that actually gives a crap about the content their children can see. But I have to draw the line somewhere.
     
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  16. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Instead of being a goddamn crybaby and having to ruin every bodies user experience, how about you modify your browser locally.

    Install Greasemonkey on firefox.
    Install this userscript - http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/4175.user.js

    Job done, you don't have to do anything since by default it will censor those ever so offensive words like "fuck".
     
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  17. Mack

    Mack <B>Site Supporter 2012</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    Lol well said.
     
  18. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Oh don't worry, "I shouldn't have to do this" Is coming next, closely followed by "I browse at work"

    A. If only you have the problem - only you need to fix it for yourself
    B. You probably shouldn't be on assembler at work.
     
  19. Prometheus

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    Exactly. He could even modify the script and have a little fun with it.

    Shit - nutty chocolate

    "Your breath smells like shit!" becomes "Your breath smells like nutty chocolate!"

    Fuck - cheese

    "Fuck it." becomes "Cheese it."

    Bitch - submariner

    "Son of a bitch!" becomes "Son of a submariner!"

    Like a lot of localized Japanese games from the 90's, if you're gonna censor something you might as well have a little fun with it.
     
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  20. Xeauron

    Xeauron Intrepid Member

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    I shouldn't have to do this!

    :D

    Just to clarify, I'm not a parent - I don't give a shit
     
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