Increase of children means we will need alanguage filter

"man that's gay, i lagged n got fragged" is most certainly homophobic.

Equating something negative with "being gay" is homophobic. You are suggesting that being gay is negative.

 

I know that, I was merely thinking future/long term as a precautionary measure. People are idiots, no doubt there's a lurker who after reading this thread is considering a legal threat just for kicks on the off chance he gets somewhere.

 

So by that reasoning, being homosexual means you are just happy?

 

gay could be replaced by any number of words there but when i say "i had a hell of a time" doesnt mean i spent some time in hell...

Guess i better stop calling campers "pussies" in case i offend some cats....

 

Yes, if you don't want to be homophobic, it is easily replaceable.

By that, and any, reasoning, being homosexual means you are sexually attracted to people who are the same gender as you. It doesn't mean you are "bad" and should get compared to other "bad" things (like getting killed in a videogame because your connection is lagged). I really don't follow your line of logic.

 

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LMAO!

What are you all waffling about??

 

Your logic is that saying something is gay has anything to do with homosexuals, it doesnt. Words change over time. Just like how gay actually means happy, then later became a word for homosexuals.

If you follow your logic (words don't change meaning over tkme) then gay doesn't mean homosexuals at all, just people are happy.

If you are saying words do change and that gay is a word for homosexuals, then you must accept that it's possible the use of the word has changed again and actually now has nothing to do with homosexuals in the context it's now used it.

English is full of words that mean different things depending on context.

 

And now this has fallen into an argument about the meaning of the word gay. Really? Come on guys.

 

while this is true and has some validity, everday usage of terms varies greatly in intent and context. The way in which words are used is important, and that is something no filter can pick up on. making an outright word banning very draconian and nazi--esq and also a very dangerous path for society as a whole to do down. It's also cultural differences, some things are more offensive to some people in some places, than to others.

Being Irish/Scottish and to a moderately less extent british(eg the rest of the uk) swearing / use of language is part of every day life, whereas it may not be appropriate in certain circumstances it is widely used and not always in a negative way. context and intent being key.

you don't ban meat from a restaraunt if a vegiterian decides to eat there, you provide a vegeterian option.

 

I'm not sure if you're serious or trolling me, but you've stuck to your guns on this issue, so I'll bite. We're not talking about the theme song to the Flintstones* here. I don't care where you grew up^, you know what words like "gay" and "faggot" connotate, today, especially in this discussion (and more in general when people are complaining or angry about something), and it's not happiness & meatballs. You didn't find a loophole to insult people and their sexuality by willfully hiding behind some sort of cultural ignorance. Go to Vauxhall and ask about having "a gay old time" or where you can "eat a faggot". See where that gets you.

*Flintstones theme song: http://youtu.be/2PPf3aaZmUw
^Admittingly, this is more towards people whose first language is English

 

Come to the UK and ask someone for a fag, see if anyone thinks you are talking about a homosexual.

I've never claimed to have found a loophole to insult anyone - if you had be listening to anything I have said, you would understand that there is no meaning toward homosexuals in the word, in the contexts I have described. What I do find insulting is Americans attitude that their way is the only way. Words mean different things in different countries, this is fact. Words also change meaning over time, also a fact.

Unless you can counter either of those facts, I wouldn't bother replying.

Another fun fact, my inlaws name is Gaynor (common Welsh name) and gets shortened to gay with no one batting an eyelid.

I'd suggest you don't come to the UK, your head may explode the first time someone asks "have you got a fag?".

 

Yup. Guaranteed responses will be 1.No 2. I don't smoke sorry or 3. Here you go...you got a light?

 

I've been to London. I even lived there for 6 months (on work assignment) a few years ago. It appears you're out of touch with your own culture.

If you can't see that asking someone on the street for a fag, and saying something like "man that's gay, i lagged n got fragged" - the comment where you couldn't seem to fathom that gay had any other meaning than happy - are two completely different things, then you need to get out more. I know words have different meanings in different contexts, but there is one context for this: "man that's gay, i lagged n got fragged". One, and it is degrading to homosexuals.

These are from the past few months and written by British authors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/patrick-cash/the-word-gay_b_4501216.html
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/24/using-gay-mean-crap-bullying-gap-people
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/24984781

 

^^^ This exactly. Some word are considered really fowl in some countries and wouldn't even get you attention in others. I think "fanny" is a good example. In America nobody would bat an eye at this. Where as my understanding is in other places (I want to say australia maybe someone from there can confirm) It's like dropping an F bomb.

It's amusing that you are telling two members that live in England that they don't know their own culture. Also you seemed to dodge the fact that meanings evolve. I'm honestly to the point now where I don't care. In America if you are not perfectly "Politically Correct" then you are branded homophobic or racist. You can choose to be offended when someone says something like 'that's gay' meanings evolve get over it. The word has been changed before it's been changed again as far as I'm concerned. I'm sick of PC America and I live here.

Which brings us back to the original topic do you have an all encompassing filter that filters every instance of what offends in every country?


EDIT: Interesting tidbit from the ruling of governors from the BBC taken from wikipedia.

"The word ‘gay’, in addition to being used to mean ‘homosexual’ or ‘carefree’, was often now used to mean ‘lame’ or ‘rubbish’. This is a widespread current usage of the word amongst young people... The word 'gay' ... need not be offensive... or homophobic ... The governors said, however, that Moyles was simply keeping up with developments in English usage. ... The committee... was "familiar with hearing this word in this context." The governors believed that in describing a ring tone as 'gay', the DJ was conveying that he thought it was 'rubbish', rather than 'homosexual'. ... The panel acknowledged however that this use... in a derogatory sense... could cause offence in some listeners, and counselled caution on its use.

 

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i miss quote pyramids. they were awesome til everywhere filtered them out

 

Most games these children are playing probably have more profanity than this forum

 

Thank you. Don't think I've laughed so much in a long time.

Quite how anyone who has been to London (of all places! In my opinion the place holds no true representation of this country at all and I'd be happy to see it nuked off the face of the earth) for 6 months can lecture someone on their state of familiarity with their own culture is beyond me. I was born in the UK and have lived here for 26 years out of my 28 on Earth and I agree with Bad_Ad84 wholeheartedly.

Anyway this thread has just turned into a shitstorm of arguments over arguably pointless stuff. The general rule on these boards has always been; if you think it might be derogatory then don't say it. It has worked out pretty well for the most part and any offenders have usually been caught. Remember if someone does come along and say something offensive, you can always block them and hide their posts.

We're kinda wasting time discussing the implications of each individual word and their meanings. If a filter is coming I'd imagine there'll be a zero risk block out of all of the words people have discussed so far.

Think it comes down to a simple yes or no choice as to wether it gets implemented or not. Don't understand why this wasn't started as a poll.

 

Actually loled