Is there anything you never thought you would own but you do now?

Nice stuff man! Would you mind sharing the story of how you got these prototypes?

 

Well, I use to work extra as a freelancing "test player" for new unreleased titles back in the early 90s, and these are the only protos left now. And it did pass a few nice games/titles/protos back then from Virgin,Titus, Konami, Hudson Soft, Capcom, Squaresoft to mention a few. And most of the times I was obligated to send the test cart/PCB back with the testrapport/evaluation. But some I could keep, and these 4 is the only one left now. I have sold a few some years ago.
And I have done some real deep research reg the SoE and Fievel and the ones I have seems to be the only proto copies known over the world. I have really searched to find some other copy or copies, but for known experts I have involved with this, the copy I have of SoE and Fievel are the one of their kind.
And they are for sale to the right price, hopefully to a dedicated collector. So if you know some serious collector with a big wallet...... ?

That is the story about these protos.

 

If you feel like heating up a soldering iron, it might just be cheaper to install the SuperCIC mod and use one of those NTSC SNES to Super Famicom cart adapters. Of course you would also need to do the 50/60Hz mod and use RGB SCART cables to get color.

NTSC SNES consoles are expensive here in the USA. I was lucky and bought an untested one with no cables, controllers, or games for $40. It ended up working fine but it was $40 cheaper than one in similar condition confirmed to be working.

If you are ever stateside, definitely check local flea markets and thrift stores/pawn shops. They may have some. If they have light yellowing, Retr0Bright can fix it.

Just remember to use the official Nintendo-brand American SNES power supply with it as most, if not all, aftermarket PSUs don't output the correct voltage or amperage and can cause issues such as green tinted screens. They output DC 9V 850mA when the SNES needs DC 10V 850mA. It will work on 9V but it may cause issues. Anything lower will start causing issues.

Whatever you do, DO NOT use PAL SNES A/V cables with an NTSC SNES or Super Famicom! The Multi-Out has a slightly different pinout than the PAL SNES. The 12V pin used for switching to 4:3 in SCART/JP-21 cables, is C-Sync on NTSC systems. C-Sync is the best sync method for RGB SCART/JP-21 cables. PAL SNES Composite cables and PAL SNES S-Video cables may work, but they require a couple resistors that the NTSC systems do not for those cables. Because of this, it may not have the proper colors or be brighter/darker than normal. I don't recommend those cables anyways as RGB is the best you can use on a stock system.
Using a PAL SNES RGB cable on a NTSC SNES might damage your TV/converter as it sends the C-Sync signal over the aspect ratio line. If you use RGB SCART cables, just take the 12V line and wire it to Pin 20 of the SCART cable. This will make it an NTSC cable but it will no longer work on the PAL SNES. You can install a switch if you want.

If you want a good puzzle game for the Super Famicom, I'd recommend Mario no Super Picross (Mario's Super Picross). It's cheap and a lot of fun.

I've never seen Bomberman dolls before. If you want to, take some pics.

 

Thank you so much for your tips and info above, maybe I dare to try some modding eventually.

Here are some pics of the dolls and Kirbys Ghost Trap proto anyway

http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/Abexy/media/SNES-pics/Bombm2_zpst4vzgqwf.jpg.html

http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/Abexy/media/SNES-pics/Bombm_comers_dolls1_zps6m3dsopj.jpg.html

 

Your very welcome! Something I didn't mention in my last post was that PAL SNES controllers work on an NTSC SNES/Super Famicom. They will even work on an NES with the cable's SNES plug changed to an NES plug. NTSC controllers will not work on a PAL console without a very simple and easy mod. American games will work in a Super Famicom but because of their shape, they won't fit.

Those Bomberman dolls look very soft. How much do they go for nowadays?

I've never heard of Kirby's Ghost Trap before. Was it even released?

If I ever get my hands on another American SNES, I would be more than happy to trade it to you for a PAL SNES. I would even do the SFC mod for you. It's really simple, just take a pair of pliers and snap the tabs out. No soldering needed.

 

That version was never released, supposedly it was about 50% done when the M2 was canned, and they decided to scrap it and start over. I don't know if any builds have popped up somewhere.

 

Kirby's Ghost Trap in america is called Kirby's Avalanche. One of the many games from the SNES that I have very fond memory's of from when I used to play it when I was a kid. Me and my Dad did 1vs1 on it and the game lasted over an hour. That was crazy fun.

 

It is like AtomizerZero says, Kirby's Ghost Trap in america is called Kirby's Avalanche. and it differs a lil from the origin. Also this proto is for sale to highest bidder. Let me know when you find a America SNES, then we will trade.

When it comes to the dolls, I haven't found them on any shop or auction site yet. I have found one pretty close, sort of "piggy-bank" doll with a pricetag around $80, but I have FIVE, they are a little bigger and over 20 years "old" and one of their kind, including the very rare Yellow Mecha Bomber. They are for sale to the right bidder.

 

A big box PC game with everything complete inside. The wish was granted with my purchase of the Bonus Tracks version of NASCAR Racing.

 

An N64DD with 7 out of 9 games, and a Panasonic Q complete with GBA Player and extra Panasonic controller. I honestly never thought I'd get those when I did.

 

Ah ok. I'll give the game a play-through one day. I know of this flea market south of my town that had some SNES console a couple years ago when I got my Sega Genesis Model 1. I don't have much money atm but I will have some money later this month. I'll look for one then.

 

Yes, pls do, and see what you like. Well, if you do "bump into" a US SNES in a fair condition and fully functionel, the PAL SNES is still here to trade, no worries mate. Now that I know that you're interested in one, I'll hold on to it until a trade is possible.
I really enjoy the type of game you so kindly suggested, Marios Super Picross, thanks. I am gonna look for that game, boxed and all. There is one thing I can't get a grip on really. maybe I'm too thick in the head??

Can you please explain how I should read the numbers on the left and on the top?? .... I do get it fairly when it is ONE number, but when it is two or more? .... I've tried to find a good explanation, but they are a lil blurry. So if you can, pls unlighten me.

Don't get me wrong, I do like and think I would like it even more when I know more. I have never seen this game, so BIG thanks for that. And if you have more nice games that reminds of this or Mario platforms, Bomberman, Rockman, LoLo .... pls let me know.

 

Ok, I'll definitely look for one when I get the chance and more money. Is there any specific American games you want with it? Some of the popular ones are expensive though.

I'm not sure how to explain Picross. It took me a couple weeks to figure it out in an emulator since it is in Japanese. Once I figured it out, I got it on the SFC and it is currently the only SNES game I own on cartridge. The easiest way is to get an English copy of Mario's Picross for the Game Boy (or get it on the 3DS virtual console) and read through it's in-game tutorial. The Super Famicom version is a sequel. There is a Mario's Picross 2 for the GB, but it was only released in Japan.

I found a Wikipedia article that explains nonogram puzzles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonogram

 

Thank you for your Nonogram link, it starts to "sink in" to this old brain lol. And I will try to get, boxed and all later on, I hope. There might be a few titles that I might like to have, that only were released in the US mostly. I'll provide you with short list of SNES games that you might look for.

 

Your quite welcome. Send me the list in a PM when you get one made up. If it comes with it, I'll include the crappy Composite AV cable.

Japanese sellers are selling the game for $15-$20 boxed on eBay right now. I got a loose copy from an American seller for ~$11.

I failed to mention something about the PAL SNES RGB SCART cables. They have extra components that I didn't see in the pinout diagram. It will be much easier to just get a NTSC SNES RGB cable wired for C-Sync. I can provide you a link to the one I use if it is still available. It cost me $21.99 + ~$5 for shipping

The official SFC RGB cable is wired for the Japanese JP-21 standard (same as SCART but has a different pinout) and I'm not sure if it uses C-Sync for sync or if it uses composite video for sync (most likely). It is quite expensive so it is one of the only times I don't recommend a Nintendo product.

 

I am looking for some US SNES titles right now, and I will PM you when I have a few. And excuse me for being a lil thick-headed now, but pls define the following, "crappy Comp AV cable", "SFC"(Super Famicon Console?)
And yes, please provide this link, cause i do need this cable to the US SNES, right? To be able to play Jap carts on that same console? After "modding" it?

Maybe I failed to mention that the SNES I have is a EU PAL SNES console, so you will need a diff power adapter and a NTSC converter to play US/JAP NTSC and JAP PAL( I do think they have both in Jap, but I might have missunderstand that part). I'm sorry if I missed to inform about this. But if you still wanna trade, the console is hold until you've decided, deal?

And I'm trying to find a nice boxed example of Mario Super Picross aswell, I just GOT to have it (Y)

 

The crappy Composite AV cable is the yellow (Composite Video), Left Audio, and Right Audio RCA cable that the system came with. Crap is a euphemism used for a certain 4 letter word I don't like to say, which is also used as a more profane version of the word feces. SFC is short for Super Famicom (Super Family Computer).

The NTSC SNES and the Japanese Super Famicom are identical except for the cosmetic design, RF module, and the power jack. The RGB cable just gives the best picture possible out of the SNES. It doesn't control the region of the console, however, the cable is different between the 2 regions. The two versions of the cable are NTSC (for US SNES and Japanese SFC) and PAL (for all PAL consoles).

To use RGB SCART cables, you will need an NTSC-compatible TV with an RGB SCART socket. Many TVs have two SCART sockets, one that is fully wired and the other which is only Composite Video. Older CRTs may not have RGB SCART sockets and just Composite SCART sockets. If you lack this connector, you can get a SCART to HDMI converter.

The specific one I use is no longer available as the seller has a newer, braided cable, version that replaced it. This is the newer version from the same seller on the American eBay site: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Ninte...714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2edd7b9a0a It even has C-Sync wired up so it will give you the best picture out of the NTSC SNES/SFC. She seems to be out of PAL SNES RGB SCART Cables. She might have more in stock later but if not, I'll just make my own using a pinout diagram I found online.

To play Japanese games on an American SNES, just snap the tabs off with a pair of pliers and pop the game in.

Thanks for specifying the PAL version. I have looked into the power supply and an official American NES power supply will work but it is 9V AC at 1.3 amps compared to the 10V AC at 1.3 amps that the PAL SNES uses. This shouldn't cause issues but I may have to get an official PAL SNES power brick one day.

As for using it on my American HDTV, my SCART to HDMI converter supports PAL to NTSC conversion so I can use it fine here. I will need to order a PAL SNES RGB SCART cable since mine is wired for an NTSC SNES. I only planned on playing PAL games on it since I can use my American SNES for NTSC games.

There are 3 different regional variations of the SNES: the Japanese Super Famicom, the NTSC SNES (North America), and the PAL SNES. There are only two region codes: NTSC (Japan and North America) and PAL (Europe and other PAL countries).

There is no PAL Super Famicom. It is NTSC only as Japan uses the NTSC-J video format. It is similar to the American NTSC-M format but has a couple slight differences.

I am still wanting to trade and I will have more money later to pay for shipping and to get you an American SNES. I will include the cables it comes with except for the RF Switch (if included) since it will be pointless outside of North America and is the worst way to hook up a SNES. The American power supply has an input of 110-120V AC at 60Hz and outputs 10V DC 850mA. Do NOT use the PAL SNES power cord on the American SNES. It has an input of 220-240V AC at 50Hz and it outputs 10V AC at 1.3 amps. Using it will fry the poor SNES.

Good luck with your hunt for Mario no Super Picross! It is quite an overlooked gem that is worth every penny.

 

I have already asked two other japanese guys to hunt it down for me, boxed and in as good condition as possible.

And I am browsing through SNES lists for titles that you might look for over there. And I have found about 120 titles that looks interesting (hehe jk).
Seriously, I have found a few that you can start to look for, if you have the time of course. I would like to have atleast a good condition on the cart, if possible boxed aswell(box+manual as good as pos)

These SNES titles to start with: Pac In Time, PoP'n'Twinbee - Rainbow Bell Adv, SnowWhite - Happely Ever After, Sparkster. Then if you know anyone that might have all the Super Adv Island and Super Bomberman for the US SNES? ..... Just ask around and see what kind of response you'll get. and I really do appreciate the help you're giving me, even though I'm "crapping" old for this shit lol :-D

Thanks and cheers,

/Titus

 

Sorry , MBJ,

Please check within the "quote square", you have some replies and links there from me, as I crapped when I was replying, sorry.

Cheers

/Titus

 

When I meant a 4 letter word for crap, i meant sh*t. It sounded like you are implying the f word when you used it lol.

I've found some boxed copies of Mario's Super Picross on the US eBay site for USD$15-$20. They come from Japanese sellers.

Many (if not most) of us Americans threw away our SNES game boxes. Boxed games go for a little more over here but I'll see what I can do. I've seen some SNES games go for $10 brand new and factory sealed. You will most likely find USA games loose and sometimes with manuals. I haven't really heard much of yellowing on American games. The actual SNES console on the other hand... that is a whole topic by itself. A lot of our games may have stickers and/or sticker residue. But it isn't too big of a problem since it is easy to remove as long as it isn't on the label.

I just saw those links.

The first one isn't completely accurate. They talk about removing the components in an NTSC cable but that won't work properly. The following site has the correct wiring for both the PAL cables and the NTSC cables: http://mirrors.arcadecontrols.com/eviltim/eviltim/gamescart/gamescart.htm#snes. Please be aware that he uses Composite video for sync so it will introduce video artifacts if that signal is used. C-Sync on NTSC consoles is the best sync method with the better alternative being Luma. PAL consoles lack C-Sync so use Luma instead. For PAL cables, wire the SNES multi-out pin 7 (Luma, the "Y" in S-Video) to pin 20 of the SCART connector. For NTSC cables, wire the NTSC SNES multi-out pin 3 (C-Sync in NTSC consoles; 12V in PAL consoles) to pin 20 of the SCART connector.

In the second link, it appears the SNES region mod they perform isn't the SuperCIC region mod. That means some games like Super Mario RPG and Earthbound (Mother 2) won't work correctly since they're region mod is the old method (put a switch for enabling/disabling the lockout chip). The SuperCIC mod replaces the lockout chip and allows full compatibility with games as it uses the original region chip's code for both regions. A switch or an automatic method is used to swap between regions and optional components for controlling the 50/60Hz modes.

Your very welcome,

MonkeyBoyJoey