PS3 encrypt broken, permanently jailbroken!

They're here http://uk.webuy.com/ but listed for more on their site.

My local store has had a white one in stock for months. It was £100 now it's £50 I guess they can't get rid of it.

If I can raise some extra cash I might go and grab it. I'm desperate to play FF7:CC in english.

Sorry for going OT btw.

 

If it's seriously priced up at £50, then there must be something wrong with it (not sure what with a PSP-Go?) and the store owner must be a franchisee who'd rather try and sell it off cheap than send it off to the CeX RMA centre for repair and likely never see it again.

Anyway, if the PS3 can basically run anything thrown at it, it could be brilliant for emulators (the only reason I still have my old Xbox), plus it would definitely make buying one just to play Uncharted 3 a less bitter pill to swallow.

 

Hey mate, would you be willing to get me that white PSP? pretty please??

 

PSP-Go are pretty much going for nothing now since people aren't buying them and used stores have a few for sale.

Hell recently they where going for $150 here in canada and one specific store was selling them for $100 online (stock probably gone by now).

Sadly i'm a good little boy and my PSP-Go is on the latest fw (I wanted to try out the official neogeo games on psn). =( The only reason I want an ISO loader on my Go is to play my Gundam Games on it. I still play them on my PSP2k but it would be nice to have them on my PSP-Go which I take with me every where.

--edit note--
The Iso loader only works on a previous fw. I updated past that number. Suposetly the loader will come to the latest fw soon but suposetly this loader was due out a long time ago and only came now due to the author worried people would steal credit for it (since it was leaked).

 

It's taken 4 years to crack, so I don't think it is epic fail. It just goes to show, the weakest link is the human link.

 

How is emulation with the PSPgo? If i can get one for £50 from CEX if i can get a mega drive emulator on it I'd jump at the oppurtunity

 

In the video they point out that it was only around 12 months from he time linux support was revoked

 

The console has been out 4 years though.

Even with the flawed security implementation, this would not have been possible if:

Random variable was really random (Private key could not be cracked).
Service code was not leaked.

 

Granted the security implementation sucked, but TECHNICALLY it wasnt 4 years of searching to find it. The serious contenders to figure it out only bothered after linux was removed

 

I've seen this argument trotted out a few times, "enable linux on your device or it'll get hacked", and from where I'm sitting it sounds like a load of crap. There's one major closed, proprietary platform where linux has been enabled from day one by the manufacturer (PS3), and that support was so gimped that most developers didn't care to use it anyway. The reason this hack is now available is that the PS3's security got blown wide open by the jailbreak - as far as I can tell, the team of "serious contenders" who made that had nothing to do with any linux ideals (and everything to do with piracy).

The PS2's security was swiftly cracked and that had nothing to do with linux either (it was way before Sony's PS2 linux package); according to the linux faithful this is because it was "financially attractive" for piracy, as though selling modchips for other platforms with an installed base of millions of isn't attractive. It's a specious argument, based on one case which is already affected by circumstance, and while I enjoy developments like this from a technical perspective I remain unconvinced that enabling linux on your device is somehow a guardian angel against piracy.

 

Maybe if Sony wasn't so stupid to kill OtherOS support, hackers wouldn't be so hungry for hacking it. What goes around...

Exactly.

Well, remember when people were excited to see that "someone" was trying to figure out how to jailbreak the PS3? That guy discovered some stuff, but gave up. But then Sony just went on to choose the easy route and killed OtherOS support. Just to be "safe", even if at that point there wasn't anything remotely similar to a hack or a security breach.

Before firmware 3.21 was released, there wasn't much people interested on working to hack the PS3. I might me saying BS, but i would dare to say that 90% of people thought it was imposible. And the rest would say it would be too difficult to bother. But with 3.21, a lot of people felt ripped of ( some people even sued Sony ), even if they used linux or not. To me, that's when the gates were opened.

On April 1, 2010 (no joke), firmware 3.21 killed OtherOS. In August 2010, the PS3 jailbreak was revealed... Also, after it's release, most new "features" from Sony's firmware was to fix / improve jailbreak defenses. But now, the PS3 is jailbreak for good.

So eight months after Sony decided to remove a feature, the PS3 is flat out hacked. Instead of focusing on adding new features on the PS3, they decided to remove features, made people angry, and this was the result.

Sony should have spent their times working to make PCEngine games avaiable on the US / Euro PSN, just like on the japanese PSN. They should have worked on a PSP Emulator (since there's so many games avaiable on the PSN). Those two would help them earn more money on the PSN, since some reports say they still don't have any profit with it. Also, they should have listened the people who bought the PS3, and add Cross Game Chat and other features that are being asked for years.

PS: If they were so worried about PS3 security, they wouldn't use a crap "random key" system. I guess they would be safe just because of the Blu-ray drive.

 

Let us not forget that only a couple of people figured out how to actually break through the PS3 security, and it was in part thanks to some leaked information (the 'JIG'). Are we meant to believe they only started working on it just before the vulnerability was discovered? I don't believe it. The vulnerability was complex to implement and very clever. It must have taken a lot of work to research and implement. To think that these few people only started working on hacking the PS3 because Sony removed a little used feature from firmware is very short sighted.

What this might end up meaning is we see a PS4 sooner than Sony originally intended, depending on how rife and how easy the new jailbreak method is to implement. If nothing more, it will sell a lot more PS3s.

 

Do you have more info on this leaked "jig" info, or how it affected this whole scenario?

A lot more second-hand PS3s, maybe. Anyone who can be bothered to acquire keep their jailbreak USB sticks up to date with the latest payloads and download torrents of compatible games will undoubtedly be aware of the price difference between a PS3 on Ebay and Amazon.

 

Honestly it makes me happy to see some of this stuff happen. I don't promote piracy on current gen systems (I mean it too neither my modded Wii or PSP have any pirated current gen games on them), but I do feel the customers should get what they paid for.

When I bought my PS3 I installed Ubuntu on it just for fun and to play a few emulators. When it was removed I lost a part of my system, and my useable hard drive space. The only way I could get that 10GB back is if I reformatted my PS3, but of course then I'd lose the videos people in my apartment paid for off the PSN because I don't have an external hard drive.

 

So we are really supposed to believe this is so people can play homebrew and Linux?

Seems to me that the reason Sony failed with the psp was lack of software sales.

Considering the price point the psp looks to have sold well hardware wise. The software didn't sell.

Does that have anything to do with it being hacked and games being available on torrent sites for download in sometimes hours if not minutes?

I know people that got it just for the pirated aspect. Same as the dreamcast.

Dreamcast loaders did let you play VCD and homebrew... They also allowed you to play any pirated game you wanted to.

I suspect the part that makes Sony the most worried is the idea of any psn network title getting put there for free... Or people slamming in a 1tb hard drive with rips of games on it.

After all, if you hack the drm and root it, there is no reason for the pirates to be held at bay any longer.

My ps3 is too expensive to replace so I will leave it as it stands, but geohot had someone donate one to him for his cracking... And although many hackers are going for a noble cause, many others are in it for the free dinner down the line.

 

http://geohot.com/

~geohot

no donate link, just use this info wisely
i do not condone piracy

if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me. any of you 3.
it'd be fun to be on the other side.

 

The group that did it is EXTREMELY anti-piracy. Hell, Marcan left the Wii scene completely because of another hacker who released iso loaders. More drama was involved, but that was the base reason.

They pint out that ANY ability to run homebrew will allow homebrew launchers that launch retail games, it is just an unpleasant side-effect. Name one system that has been hacked to allow linux that also will NOT run anything pirated. The hack itself is to allow linux and homebrew. What is one WITH the hack is out of their control.

 

Anyone care to explain that GeoHot thing?

Edit: On January 2, 2011, Hotz published the metldr key on his personal website, which allows users to decrypt and sign anything they wish on their Playstation 3 console using the key.[25]

OH SHIT.

 

yah its the sony signing key the thing you need to sign code so it will run without hacks

 

Interesting... Might consider finally getting a PS3. However, I need an HDTV first. lol. that's what's been keeping me from making the jump.