PS3 encrypt broken, permanently jailbroken!

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/wip-fail0verflow-opens-git-releases-beta-tools-74245/

Welcome to the jungle! we got fun and games.

 

anti piracy or not, just releasing the exploits opens it to the criminals.
take a look at the iphone world. The jailbreak exists, therefore access to the root causes the ability to re-write the file that controls DRM... patching that file means you can install any software you want on the device, limited only by what version of iOS you are using.

How does Jay Saurik (the created of cydia) combat this? He doesnt... Simply adding a disclaimer about how piracy is wrong when you try and add one of these haking/piracy sources to his Cydia file manager. Just seems strange to me to do nothing at all.

I am rooting for the ps3, but anything that makes it easier to pirate on i know brings it down further into the basement in terms of success this console generation.

Keeping in mind, this current hardware cycle is likely the last one for a long time. There isnt much more innovation a new hardware cycle could bring, so anything done now will cause more hurt than ever to any of the big three console companies.

 

OK how about copy protected saves is there a way to copy them?

 

been a way around that for a while now but you needed a jailbroken ps3

 

Does anyone know if having these keys will allow someone to play Devkit/Review code on a Retail PS3? That's the only thing I care about with this finding, as it'd save me having to splash a crap load of cash on a black market devkit!

 

You can already do that with a usb dongle. BTW, Sony just got DP'd.

Mathieulh
Got the kirk engine keyz

Mathieulh
@N0_25 I can encrypt/sign anything on psp now.

 

But wouldn't you need to use the JB for that? Got any links? :thumbsup:

 

thats quite a big deal too. if i could just download a save file for a game and instantly go online with ultimate power.

that would suck.

 

360 saves have been hackable for a long time (especially since they added usb support) and it hasn't been that bad.

 

yes, and eventually you are caught and banned from the service.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006697.html

so go ahead with that, just be aware that if big brother redmond wants to, they can stop you.

 

I don't do it my self, or encourage people to do it (especially if it's to cheat), I'm just saying it won't be the end of the world if it happens on PS3.

 

PSP kirk engine decyption keys found in the PS3, hahaha.. Sony is having one fail after another.

 

No. I've got an ipod touch running 2.2.1, and I refuse to update because the new features aren't needed or wanted, and I like that my screen fades in and out unlike in 3.x.x+. I can't use the app store as 3.x is the minimum supported version but still still comes out and gets updated for my device in cydia, and it's freeware, although an update to libhide means my devices gets bricked if I update that...

 

Somewhere in the world, there are some very angry bosses, and some equally unhappy engineers.

 

Sounds ugly based on what I read on neogaf.

They have the Keys for PSP, The master on PS3, & they have the BR Playback key as well. There's got to be someone at sony cussing up a storm right now.
=(

 

Might open it up to piracy but it opens it up for backing up of legally purchased games. Sony still has the right and ability to go after pirates and I still have the ability to play a game I bought without even thinking about the fact it might get destroyed by a 8 year old.

Win win.

 

It's not a "win" for Sony, not from any position. They now have the task of re-securing their platform for future hardware releases, which by all accounts is nearly impossible. Even if they manage to do so, at best they'll be losing software attach rate, thanks to older consoles inevitably remaining broken. All of this is the worst-case scenario for them; your installing a game you legitimately bought to HDD is really the least of their worries.

 

The "win" part was that they can still sue pirates. I couldn't care less about their ability to "secure" their console and destroy my (decidedly American) right to "fair use" which backups used to be covered under. They have and likely will continue to sue anyone they feel hasn't coughed up every penny they could to install games to a hdd such as in the case of HDLoader.

Pay for a license or what have you once and it doesn't magically disappear because the disk shattered. You still have that license. Hence why you see some games available for replacement services to the tune of about $10 a disc. Downloadables are downloadable forever after 1 paid purchase so I don't see why it shouldn't apply for physical media based licenses.

Oh right because Sony wants me to pay $50 again so they can fluff up their money pillows.

And it is a "win" for Sony regardless because now I'll actually buy a PS3 as well as Blu-Ray movies and PS3 games.

May I also point out that every platform, every DRM scheme that has ever existed has been broken? May I also point out that home taping didn't kill music? Furthermore can I point out that the VCR didn't kill the movie industry? This won't kill Sony but it sure will make them scream bloody murder and use it as justification to try even harder to make sure legitimate consumers get screwed over and pirates can get exactly what they want how they want it.

 

Fwiw, I've learned the hard way that after paying $20 to see it in the theatre and downloading a DVD screener of it, Sony aggressively goes after pirates.

We actually laid out money to watch it and the wife wanted to see it again... So against better judgement I grabbed salt and BAM... Sony went and sent out the letter to my ISP.

Afaik they do this with their property so perhaps that would curtail any piracy.

Anyhow back to the iPod touch.

On an iPod touch I can see why not to update. There are more reasons you need to update a phone though. Fixes to the baseband, tweaks to run faster. The web browser on 2.x was horrendous btw.
But a console also needs updates.

wow just thought of a fix for this!

Make all future releases rely upon a new firmware (call it 3.55 or whatever) that fixes the broken failed encryption. The old games? Water under the bridge but make the new firmware available everywhere like ps3 magazines, forums, Internet, etc...

Don't update? Don't play uncharted 3.
It's that easy.

 

That is basically what Nintendo has done with the Wii (seems like every AAA must have title has a forced firmware update) and Microsoft as well (I can't name any specific titles but I do recall seeing a few that require Dash updates. There is also the fact you generally can't use XBox Live without the latest Dashboard with all of the anti-piracy checks in place).

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they didn't make future games have firmware checks but obviously you have to make future firmware compatible with all current games that don't have this check lest you piss off your existing customer base. Being such it will be a cat and mouse game trying with the firmware crowd like it has been with the 360's DVD-ROM firmware and the Wii's modified firmwares.

I can almost guarentee Sony will lay the ban hammer down on anyone running a modified PS3 just like Microsoft did the XBox and does the 360 which will be a deterrent for casual pirates who just want cheap games but still want to play online.