Shenmue 1 & 2 on Wii?

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  1. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Its no where near the fastest car i dont think. I think its the [SIZE=-1]Bugatti Veyron and i think there are many inbetween.
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  2. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    AM2 supposedly managed to fit both of the first two Shenmue games on a single disc back when the project was still in development on the Saturn, though of course nobody has any concrete proof of that! Then again, neither have we any confirmation this would be possible on the Wii, even if it does seem highly likely. I can only hope that if this does happen Yu Suzuki is fully involved - if not as producer then on a quality control level, at least - and that motion sensor features are limited to perhaps a few remixed QTE scenarios or perhaps a few minor diversions from a main game that wasn't broken in the first place. I pray that Sega can somehow find the resources to make this even better than its resurrection of NiGHTS and a damn sight higher up the proverbial gaming ladder compared to recent efforts starring a certain blue hedgehog, especially if the future of this epic series is at stake. To quote dear ol' Ine-san (kind of), "please Sega, I beg of you..." Based on its current track record, what's the chance of this realistically?
     
  3. Johnny Vodka

    Johnny Vodka Fiery Member

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    shenmue 2 is on a DVD-9 disk for the xbox.

    I hope they do okay with the game, but it might be 3 strikes and you're out. Shenmue sold badly on the dreamcast, worse on the xbox, and it'll be interesting how it does on the Wii. I want the 3rd one badly, but it's obviously not coming.
     
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  4. SuperGrafx

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    I hope this is just a bad rumor. This simply would not sell on the Wii.
    Bring it to the Xbox 360 where it belongs.
     
  5. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Okay, I see what you're getting at now. Well, something tells me Shenmue 3 would borrow pieces from the other two games, but at this point, there's really no reason to not rewrite the engine. But, who knows... we're talking about a game we'll likely never see.

    Please don't. We want Japanese people to actually buy it so we can see the franchise (gasp) keep going. A PS2 release about 18 months ago would've been the best.
     
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  6. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    The more you consider it from every last angle (console popularity, development costs, etc), Nintendo's platform seems an obvious home for Shenmue. However, does anybody else think it would be nice if Sega was to just release the original 32-bit prototype, maybe as a download? After all, with Saturn emulation now reaching advanced stages and the company being in such a precarious financial state, throwing the few remaining fans a proverbial bone at a decent enough price can't be a bad thing. However, it's unlikely to happen - even if the game was quite far into production - simply because Sega doesn't seem to have made a sound decision in years...
     
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  7. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Since when is releasing a 10 year old unfinished prototype for a game that didn't sell well a sound business decision? Or any prototype for that matter.
     
  8. Johnny Vodka

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    I wouldn't mind seeing Shenmue come out as a XBLA download, since it never came out on the xbox. Sega should put some of the best dreamcast games on the XBLA there for download. It would even be easier than porting a disk copy for the Wii with new waggle games.

    How much does it really cost to port over an older game like Shenmue over to the Wii? Almost nothing compared to making a new game or IP. If the rumor is true, then it'll just be that, Sega porting over old games for some more money. I seriously doubt there will ever be a shenmue 3, even if the wii versions sold amazing well. This is less about Sega trying to restart interest in the franchise, and more about digging back in the archives for games to throw on the cash cow Wii instead of doing new work on a new Wii title.
     
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  9. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Ah yes, that's the one Top Gear took to Germany to test. Why I thought it was the other car I don't know. That Bugatti Veyron not only looks fantastic on the outside but also on the inside. Not to mention it has all the comforts that you'd find in a top range European or Japanese saloon car (sedan for our American readers)

    Yakumo
     
  10. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    If they do this, I hope they make it so that it's easier to look around, one of the things I didn't like about Shenmue 1 was that it took a year to search a room.

    I would buy part 3, if it came out. But I generally tend to avoid re-buying games I already own unless there are significant differences.
     
  11. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Making Shenmue3 right now would require a complete overhaul, if not a complete replacement of most of the software and art.

    That or release a game that will look outdated (its been almost 8 years old guys).

    Indeed, just a couple months ago I was showing the Sonic2 beta to some of my friends and the consensus was between "now thats an ugly game" and "who cares about that level? it looks like crap anyway".

    We're a community thats built around unreleased and prototype stuff, so its difficult to see it like the rest does. But for most people a proto game is like watching a half made movie were most of the scenes are storyboards and/or green screens without the FXs.

    Prototypes arent like director's cuts, so people will not pay to see them.

    I remember they did a race between the Veyron and a plane, pretty awesome:nod:

    But if you ask me I'll rather have a good engineered car with great handling and acceleration than an uber-fast one.

    My car ranking is:

    1-Nissan GTR (launch control FTW!)
    2-Audi R8
    3-The New Gallardo
    4-Audi RS4
    5-Mitsubishi EVO X
    6-Fiat 500 Abarth
     
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  12. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    It's not just the design of the body that makes the Koenigsegg incredible.

    The Koenigsegg was the fastest on the Top gear test track, which we all know is the true measure of fastest. :lol: In in fact, it out accelerates the Veyron quite spectacularly, but in a long race the Veyron would destroy it. So it depends on your definition of speed, I guess.

    The problem with the Veyron is that it has straight line speed, but handles like a brick (supposedly) - probably because it is very heavy.

    Koenigsegg:
    Acceleration: 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 3.2 seconds
    0-200 km/h 9.8 sec
    0-200-0 km/h 14 sec
    Top Speed: 395+ km/h (245+ mph)

    Veyron:
    Acceleration:
    Acceleration: 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) 5.5 seconds
    0-200 km/h 24.2 seconds
    Top Speed: 407.47 km/h (253.19 mph)

    I'd disagree, the Wii is selling on a gimmick to many millions of more casual gamers who would not appreciate Shenmue at all. Sure, it has sold a lot of units, but not to the audience Shenmue would appeal to IMO. Either the XB360 or PS3 would be better platforms, but neither have enough market penetration to sell enough copies of the game, especially in Japan.

    GP is right in saying they missed the boat with a PS2 version, especially since Yakuza uses a similar engine. Perhaps the PS3 will see something though, as Yakuza 3 has been released on the PS3.. or will be. I played the demo but hated it. Probably the license for the XBox Shenmue 2 prevented a PS2 game of Shenmue 3.
     
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  13. JamesMichael

    JamesMichael Light Hearted Drunk

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    I'm loving how half of this thread is about cars haha. Yeah bringing it to the wii is a bad move and sega should consider either a PS3 or xbox 360 release
     
  14. saturn_worship

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    bringing it on wii would be a good move.

    first of all..why the hell people is talking as if the game sega is supposed to release was shenmue 3?

    come on guys, shenmue 1 and 2 on 1 disc with corrected glitches and a few more things would be pretty interesting.. and it's good to be released on wii.

    the shenmue ip needs a complete resurrection from scratch, and that's only possible with 2 things.

    1.patience
    2.re-release the old games.
    3.watch how they work on the market.

    I think a wii + 360 + ps3 kind of port of the 2 games in 1 would be pretty interesting.

    sincerely..any move from sega to try to revive the franchise is wellcome by me...
     
  15. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    it's a matter of taste, and as a stylist of sorts and art lover, I put design over performance. To be honest, I don't think I ll ever need to run as fast as the top speed on either of these supercars, nor do I need the 3.2 second acceleration etc. All expensive cars today offer more power and speed than is ever probably going to be needed for your average customer.
     
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  16. graciano1337

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    hmm.... i better read this thread from the beginning. i'm not sure what's going on...
     
  17. GodofHardcore

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    Thanks for saying it so I don't have to.
     
  18. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Personally all this car talk just fuels my desire for Gran Turismo 5, I hope there is a Veyron in the game and I'm looking forward to racing around the top gear test track.

    As for Shenmue, didn't like it the first time around and flogging a dead horse isn't going to win the grand national for Sega.
     
  19. spot778

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    NEVER going to be a Shenmue 3.

    I agree I can't see the current Wii audience interested in this either. Loved both games and still putter with them at least once a year.
     
  20. Grey Fox

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    In terms of units of hardware and also the fact that Sega has already ported a number of games then the Wii makes a lot of sense. Also I think that there is an assumption that the ONLY people who buy the Wii are casual gamers who only want games they can play for 5 minutes etc. The Wii does have a lot of "gamers" games already and something like ShenMue 1 & 2 would certainly be welcome on a machine that isn't likely to see GTAIV anytime soon. Graphically ShenMue would suit the Wii and be in the upper echelon's of its library and if the WiiMote could be used in interesting ways then all the better (punching the QTE Fighter pads in the arcade perhaps? Light Gun game added to the arcade, Steering the bike when Ryo saves Nozomi, playing the Pachinko stands etc, manipulating the capsule toys etc)

    The thing is that ShenMue has always been a Marmite game in that people either love it or hate it. I understand the appeal of being on PS3 or 360 (HD graphics, surround sound etc) but not only would the cost of this be huge I just don't see it selling to a demographic that is far more into FPS games and gritty urban sandbox games. The difference between the PS2 market and the DC market was always succintly summed up for me by the fact that ShenMue always felt "right" for the DC but Yakuza always felt right for PS2 (being a bit more "gangster" as i were)

    They should be able to fit the two games on on disk or certainly no more than 2 (1 for each game perhaps?)

    I was speculating just the other day that the slightly clunky controls in ShenMue would be a legacy of its beginnings on Sega Saturn.The fact that you walk with the D-Pad and look around with the Analogue stick but can enter a first person mode too would be, I'm guessing, due to the standard controller on a Sega Saturn with the 3D NiGHTS pad being an optional controller (and therefore not all Saturn owners having an analogue stick etc)

    Anyway - sorry to post such boring thoughts but I've lurked on these boards for years and years and thought I really ought to start posting :)
     
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