Well said, Barc0de! I'm a Sega nut but even I can appreciate the Wii. I did think Mario Kart and Galaxy were turd though after buying them :banghead: I managed to sell Kartt hough on yahoo for 4000 yen which is only 500 less than what i paid for it but I'm stuck with galaxy Anyway, the Wii is indeed a gamers machine and can hold it's head high :nod: So what if it doesn't look as good as the 360 or PS3. Graphics only help a game along they don't make it :033: For me, the best five consoles ever would include 2 Nintendo systems being the SFC and the Wii and that's coming from a Sega nut. Yakumo
Super Famicom, yes I can understand brilliant machine, but Wii gamers machine? I think you need to add the word casual in there somewhere...
I'm still really puzzled about why people seem to think the Wii is NOT the "gamer machine". If I was gonna put some fantastic logic into something, I'd say the PS3 is the casual machine. 1: It barely has any games of greater interest, your library can hardly grow 2: It plays your movies 3: It might play some of the few games you've bought in the past 4: It may very well be future proof, if you're lucky. But then again, who are you to care, you only buy 2-3 games pr generation so chances are you've already got the purchase schedule down on paper or already done buying. Sounds like the most fool proof casual gaming device, ever. I'm with Barc0de on the Wii being the most solid gamer console, followed by the Xbox 360 (if we're gonna rank the current generation). (And I think I wrote a nice long ass post earlier somewhere about so called "Hardcore" gamers) (By the way, every Wii owner should get Solomon's Key and the Lolo games, and probably any other nice little puzzle games like that that may come out... Puzznic, anyone? They're friggin excellent for random pick up and play when you've got the guys gathered, and the nice state saving of the Wii puts you right back were you left)
Everything I say goes in one ear and out the other with you, eh? What I was talking about was the PS2, and how is ironic that the mass of casuals that heralded its specs years ago now go running to the store to buy a Wii, which must be the most underpowered (compared to competition at the time) console in Nintendo's history. Is not just the DC, the Gamecube also got all kinds of flack because it didnt had DVD playback. Ahh but today none of that matters, how convenient... You know how thats called? BIAS. Any criticism coming from casuals against the DC, GC and even the Xbox (it wasnt that big c'mon) was a biased comment from sony fanboys that didnt want to accept that their console wasnt as awesome as they believed. And about your coming-out-of-the-closet with being a nintendo fan, what? some dude egged your house because of that? then why the whole "I have rights!" speech? Seriously dude, when were nintendo fanboys ashamed of themselves? 'cause I must have missed that...
You don't realize that for a console to succeed en masse it NEEDS the casual gamer on board. THEY provide the funds and the funds in combination with a larger installation base will lead to more GOOD games , simple statistics really.
Thanks for the tip, theres no way I would have been able to deduce that after almost 20 years of playing games and being in business school Now that the sarcasm is over, my point is that I dont give a damn about the business-side of things, not in this very topic. What I'm talking about is the kind of dumb, silly attitude most people have, and how it hurts the market. Right With that in mind the Dreamcast shouldnt have had even one good game, neither the Xbox, NeoGeo, PCFX or the Amiga. Most of those systems had a small user base or were net-losers (burning through more cash than what they brought back) yet they not only had some of the best games in history, but some also boast the best percentage of good games-over-bad games. On the other hand some of the most commercially sucessful consoles are widely know for having a ton of low-quality games for every hit they had/have, and that includes 2600, Nes, Genesis, PSX and PS2. About the Wii, honestly I thought that with a control like that and such low development costs it was going to become THE console for innovative games, but except for only a few titles, all I see is a console thats getting more shovelware than any other in this generation. A damn shame, since who knows the ammount of great games we could be playing right now, instead of just one now and then. I dont blame Nintendo for that, but the casuals that believe the Wii begins and ends with Wiisports, and nothing else.
You can't compare the amount of good NES games to Atari 2600 games. The PS2 also got a treatment of very fine games if you ask anyone. The DC had fairly good games but not as many as you make them out to be. The Wii will have better games (compare DD to Mariokart Wii) than the GC and that's good news.Thanks to its penetration and the numbers you don't care about, it's also going to get many ports of older marvels. It also offers a legitimate manner of playing older titles as well as a controller that can be used for non "casual" games. I hate the distinction of casual and hardcore gamer though and it is an erroneous one. Everyone loves pick-up-and-play games. Ikagura is one of those and so are most shooter, hell even Super Mario Bros. Nothing wrong with that. What the Wii offers is choice, and you get plenty of all kinds of games to cover most tastes. Now if you like FPS on a console, get a 360. I guess I m not hardcore then, because I ve got better things to do in my life than playing 24/7 and trying to rank in leaderboards. As aforementioned though, you can't go as far as to call granpa a morron for wanting to get a Wii. He's as much entitled to play video games that fit his own style as you and I.
And you keep hearing whatever you want to hear... Do you have any other game for the Wii besides wiisports? then you dont fit with the casual. For a casual the Wii is wiisport and nothing else, even wiiplay or the wiifit is something apart. And denying the amount of shovelware the developers are dumping in is both stupid and risky, because it serves as an excuse for them to continue with this strategy. RE4? thats was on GC you amnesiac! And thats the problem: most companies are re-releasing ports (more often shit) from other consoles, instead of creating new content. The wiimote is great but new controls will never be able to compensate for having to play the same game again.
If it was a remake, or contained extra material like levels lost in development, maybe, but new controls just wont cut it. Unless of course you didnt play the GC version, nor the PS2 for that matter.
new controls , new graphics, new content. It all has the word new. And yes, I ve played the GC version but not the PS2 version. Nevertheless, RE4 on the Wii is the BEST version (for including the extra PS2 stuff as well) and the controls really make the game more enjoyable than anything similar, even the standard versions. Fact.
so lets get this straight.. Better graphics than the PS2 version, more content than the GC version PLUS new control scheme AND the old control scheme supported. IS this not the best of versions of RE4 then on a console? Hence, why it's a fact.
There is some irony there... A Wii owner saying the graphics are better. :lol: No it's not fact just current opinion, and it's more RE4.1 rather then just RE4 as it is a cheap upgrade of the GC version.
well anything with an opinion above 50% is deemed objective and reasonable , so I guess you're out in the cold Mr.Reactionist
more than 50% of people consider RE4:Wii Edition to be the best version out of the 3 console releases. Hence, it's objectively better than both the GC and PS2 versions thanks to being the single version that offers: a)the better graphics b)the extra levels c)the option to have more than one control style in a few words, its the Supertotal of the previous plus more controller-related content.
