first, you can see the not for resale sticker on the side on the pictures paulo posted. second, i was refering to the picturein the middle of my post , took on expo 2002 (too? do the pictures that paulo posted are from the same expo at the sam year?)
I can guarantee that Dan was there, Paulo ;-) I'm not 100% sure its to do with the Sony one either Paulo... except for Assembler telling me the one he saw had a PSOne style proto controller with it, which would attach to the SF dev unit. And he hadn't seen these pictures first! Cahaz, both pictures taken at same expo, same year ;-)
Its still not enough to say that it definetly is a Pulstec cd rom. Maybe someone else knew this and used it to their benefit. Also im sure lots of people would liek to see what all those ports on the side of the cd rom are....
I am convinced that this SNES CD is the same one as Dan Kramer's. Let's compare the two photos. It appears both are sitting on the same SNES as both of them have the same yellowing pattern (yellow bottom half, normal top half). Both systems have the red paint in the corner. Both systems have the stickers all over them. Both systems have the Sony pad with them. Which means this one is the same as the one in the two photos posted above.
All it proves is that it is most likely the machine in the original pics. Again, noone said those pics were taken THIS year. They could well be from before, during or after the expo. They could be taken by a spectator like these were, or indeed by the then owner. The pics prove nothing about the current ownership. All they show is that it is more than likely it was the machine that was at the show. They don't even prove that it was Dan's, it could've been borrowed off someone else, hence not for sale! Oh, and did I not just say Dan Kramer worked for Activision in later years? Surely Activision had games on Playstation - so how is that not an involvement with programming for Playstation? Of course, it could be a DIFFERENT Dan Kramer ;-)
BTW guys, we've seen the pics enough... so please, if you reply to a thread with quotes, DELETE the code for the pictures!!! And try not to repost the same pics time and time again in the first place ;-)
Woah, lots of developments on this recently. Hard to believe that this could stay under wraps for so long. I'd hafta say that the person who has the pics on the website mentioned in the very first post did not take them at the 2002 show. It just doesn't add up. Why? Well, for starters, if they were taking pictures of the proto, why would they keep it secret for all this time? Wouldn't they immediatly run home and upload them to their PC? Why wait 2 years to show them to the world? Do you think this is the only unit in existence? Surely there are more out there, otherwise a $7000 price tag is way low. If this was the only one around, of the fabled Super Nintendo-CD project, it would be worth much more.
exact, but the system shown on every pictures here is the same , this is for sure. like you said, when you have something big , you whant to show it now, you don't whant to wait. but if the owner was always the same , then qhy didn't he posted pictures of it on the web earlier? i mean, this could have done an incredible publicity for his stand , no? then again, if there was two owners , then it would answer the wait before 2002 and 2004 ,the year that the first pictures of this thread where made.
We know the unit is the same unit, but we don't know if the owners are the same. I am willing to bet it had several owners before it landed in the trash, and eventually into some lucky fellow’s hands, who then decided to show everyone what he found.
im pretty sure its not in the hands of ''dan '' anymore , i don't know who have it at all, but its a lucky one : finding a snes proto in a trash and have the knowledge to understand what it is and apreciate it. but , ey, maybe he didn't find it in a trash like he said too, words are only words, its how and in wich situation you say it that count, it could be a lie. we don't know.
I still believe that the controller pictured isn't meant for the Nintendo CD but was a prototype for the Playstation made after Sony and Nintendo parted ways. Maybe the dumpster diver struck gold twice the same night?
Just a comment here guys- Why would any game company that had invested millions in the deveopment of a system only make one prototype of it? Chances are more than one prototype of the Snes CD were made. How many of them still exist today is another question. But still I wouldn't rule out that the units pictured are of two different systems, it seems only logical that Nintendo's R&D people would have made more than one.
It also seems logical that these things would be in japan and neither sony nor nintendo would be chucking them out. Unless these were dev kits for developers...
updates... I just wanted to say that I don't think that the Dan Kramer we're talking about worked for Raven Software and Activision, at least based on an interview here: http://www.soldier-of-fortune.com/articles.php?i=twisted4. That's just some younger person by the same name, from what it sounds lilke, and even then he left Raven a while ago by now. Aside from that, I figured I'd mention that Classic Gaming Expo 2002 was held in Jackie Gaughan's Plaza Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. Here's a couple more good pics of the Dan that we're looking for from the Expo. http://www.atariage.com/features/cge2k2/view_picture.html?ImageName=pictures/TheShow/DSCN2964.JPG http://www.cyberroach.com/cyromag/14/DSCN3846.jpg He was also at "World of Atari" in 1998 and was even a keynote speaker at it, though he probably didn't have the item at that time. And his web site's name expires next month. more news: here is a profile of him http://web.archive.org/web/20030609192300/www.cgexpo.com/bios/dkramer.html and he also attended CGE 2003 being an exhibitor/vendor there as well. More info if I learn more, lol.
Would it be too rude to approach this Dan Kramer, and ask him what happened to the SNES CD? Cool Sidenote: I have that jukebox dan is leaning on in my house. My dad collects coin operated stuff...even video arcade games...probably why I got into collecting video games, honestly.
