erm not sure if you were joking but dans that old guy in the picture... Anyways Another thing is this.... So maybe this could of been one of his projects... doesnt explain the sticker on the underside of the system... THATS if it was there from the start... Also why and how would Dan kramer get that item... or want it... he doesnt seem to be a fan of much else apart from atari. That and pinball from my search on usenet...
i wasn't joking : http://www.kenston.k12.oh.us/khs/feature_stories/watn_dan_kramer.htm don't know if its the same dan though....
I noticed DK Atari.com in one of the pics and tried it out, http://www.dkatari.com/ Not much as everything is under construction :smt009 Most definitely a different Dan. Remember, the guy in question worked for Atari.
Even when we break things up in different posts without the edit button you miss things out :-D Yeah the sites been like that ever since its been up. Think about 2 years ago. Well thats all the web archive has of it. Hes got a pinball site as well but thats also gone. His usenet postings stoped in may unless he changed both his name and address. However i got an e-mail address for him from usenet plus his hois search on that website.
Cos cahaz used that damn edit button! And i dint use the quote button Edit: Back to topic.... That Pulstec sticker looks like its been tampered with. Either someone trying to take it off or someones taken it off and stuck it there.... So thats something to think about.
OK, to the new poster, cahaz, and all others that seemed to miss my point..... Firstly, who said that the item was RECENTLY recovered from the trash? Noone! Just that it was. Indeed, it could have been recovered previously, displayed at the expo, and only recently dug up by the guy who posted the pictures. Furthermore, the guy who posted that website DOES NOT OWN THE MACHINE. As I said, he contacted the owner through a friend. Still, this does raise a little doubt in my mind, not of the authenticity of the machine. I believe it is real, and indeed I think the website owner believes the story, but perhaps someone is stringing him along a little with pics from the expo? It is also possible that the real owner is indeed Dan Kramer, and that his contact lied about it not being in the US. Of course, the other alternative is that someone in the East bought the thing from Dan. Well, he has asked for more pictures, e.g. of the sockets and internal, so we shall see what comes of that. It is possible that Dan is the person who offered the machine for $7000. I know how to get hold of him, so I'll leave a message and see if he responds. Good work Paulo :smt023 *EDIT* Nah, the pulstec sticker is real. The drive is a pulstec, I'm almost 100% sure of that. The machine is real (I believe we already established this, unless you don't believe Assembler's word)!
No you dont know that... have you seen the inside? and we havent really established anything about what this is.... So you must know the owner then!!! Dint you just say you contacted the owner though.... You seem to have a confused story here....
Paulo, it really is obvious why he has the machine (i.e. he worked in the industry..same reason most people have all that rare stuff, unless they bought it off someone who did). Oh and why he has mostly Atari stuff. Here are some quotes as clues: N.B. of course he worked for Atari WAY before 1998!!! And other companies, its just that moby don't have details of that. Oh and as to why he has so many Atari trackpads.....
Anyone want to go knock on Dans door, or call or fax or email him at work ? ...I got his info but feel a little off leving it up on here.
Come on dont be so rude. Its bad enough we have to track him down on whois to talk to him posting stuff like that aint cool!
I know it is. Pulstec made CD-ROM drives for prototyping. That WHOLE black unit is the CD-ROM drive (seen from the hole in the front, and the black section at the bottom). The drive has a Pulstec sticker on. Hmm, a Pulstec CD-ROM, for prototyping, in a prototype SNES CD. Couldn't possibly be, could it..... On the other hand, I believe they also made PCBs, so someone may well go to them for prototyping, so, like Sophia with the Saturn, they could have helped with the whole thing. In case I didn't mention it before: They actually made erectronic equipment. Perhaps Nintendo had the design for the machine, but had problems getting it up .....and running *cough* ;-) Paulo, Pulstec gear isn't easy to come by. Where would that sticker have come from? Nah, I said I have been in contact with the person who has the website, and that he is NOT the owner.
Im pretty sure i covered the fact he worked for atari... now the point is at no point has he shown interest for nintendo or the playstation and he doesnt seem the kind of person from what ive have seen to of been in a position to gain access to something so rare. ALSO when he did (if this is infact what some people think it is) would he just dump it in the coner and not care about enough to talk...
indeed , there's nothing that say if the machine was found in the trash recently or not. but , like paulo said, the sticker : ''not for sale'' was certainly made for the expo of 2002 (wich make alot of sense) like we can see on this picture , the earliest picture we can find of it: . we already know the unit is the same, and that it was found in the trash somewhere. with the sticker ''Not for resale'' wich i belive would have been removed right after the expo of 2002, but it wasn't . then, (if the theory is true ( its a supostion, remember)) it was found in the trash, with the same sticker of the expo. the new owner didn't knew that this sticker was here only for the purpose of an expo, if i was im and didn't knew the sticker wasn't from sony or any other compagny, i would leave it here, i don't think collectors are the types to remove every stickers from a proto, you know? then the owner receive an email from someone that was told he had (and probally have again) a nintendo psx proto. he takes pictures of it, with the sticker ''not for resale'' on it , remember, and then send it to the requester but , do not whant to have is identity revealed. now, to make this theory of two owners stronger, think about this: the guy that we see in the pictures paulo poster is in the middle of an exposition with alot of collectors in it. while the guy who received an email asking pictures didn't whanted to have is identity revealed. If you don't want to let other people (especially game collectors) know you have a snes psx proto , you do not show yourself with it in an exposition. plus, the ''second guy'' thought it was the first time ever we could see picutres of this thing, but if he knew it was in an exposition earlier (with alot of colllectors with cameras) i do not think he would have take the chance to say this. sure , this is only a theory, but an interesting one nonetheless, don't you think?
1- indeed, and thatg's why some pictures of the interior would be liked , but retro does not seem to understand this. 2- but if the owner don't whant to be know as the owner of the system, then why do he present himself at an expo?
I think its pretty safe to say Dan has either sold this on/had it stolen or someone is having alittle bit of fun with pictures taken at a show or something. I cant seem to find many pictures of the show in 2003 but im pretty sure dan was there. Im still not at all convinced this is much to do with sony.
