They're from the same period of time and similar projects. Neither was mass produced or ever went on sale. Close enough for me.
I don't think I'll be posting in this thread any more because the skeptics have already made their minds up. It would cost a LOT more than $100 to have a mould made for that pad. It would cost a LOT more than $100 to make that proto machine, too. Have you tried to get hold of that specific slot loading drive? You will be lucky to find one ANYWHERE. It is a SPECIFIC drive made by pulstec, and wasn't put in commercial products. Where are you going to find one, eh? Oh, and if that design looks fake, check this out I give you the original Sophia Saturn development unit. Oh look, Nintendo used the stuff too! Oh what's this? The SF Box-II, the SNES development unit also had this material? And its cart port looks very similar to that of the (apparently fake) SNES CD? Shocking! Oh look! Sony used that material too! No, you're right, there's NO WAY this cheap looking thing could've been made by Sony or Nintendo *rolls eyes* Please note: 1. Uses the SAME kind of design, i.e. metal with that kind of paint (COMMON for use on proto equipment in electronics, particularly in Japan). 2. Bolt on drive unit. 3. It was NOT made by Sega, so yeah... this thing could've been made by someone on behalf of Nintendo/Sony. As I keep saying, the obvious link is that both items are from Sony. If you go through your garage and chuck out a load of junk, does that mean it all came from the same year? NO. So what if Sony had a clearout and there happened to be a controller from around 93 or 94, and a CD drive from a bit before? Actually, it wasn't that long before! You want your internal pics? I'll see what I can do. Still, they'll prove JACK SH1T. Oh, and it is HIS item, it is up to him whether he wants to take it apart. I know that I don't want to take everything apart. TRUE collectors want to keep things as they were, not tampered with. I'd also appreciate people listening to what I said about doubting other people. You don't know who I am, or what knowledge I may have of this thing, so what right do you have to go telling me I'm wrong? Unless you have FACT, stop totally dismissing other people's ideas. It is one thing to say hey nice theory, here's mine.... but another to say NONONO that's WRONG it CANNOT be real.
First, retro, it would be cool if you could read a bit of what we've said before re-taping the same proofs hundred of times. second, you seem very upset, i mean , why? just calm down, its not your about your life its about 3 pictures of a big case with a sony pad . Now, ill try to debate your proofs (like i said, calm down man! that's just fun! (or am i the only one that actully have fun on this thread?)): (---1---) R: i don't nececary say its a fake, what i say is it could be made by any compagny , group (thoses groups who made alot of pirate things on consoles (v doctor 64,...) ) and why not a alone person? i mean, there's NOTHING that relly this thing to sony anymore ( the pad was made in the time of the sony-only psx stand alone unit, not in the time of the snes add-on. iit could be made by anything and anyone. The pad isn't fake at all, but have nothing to do here , that's all. and actually , for the drive , you just see a black hole that have the good the good shape. do you see any other thing than a black hole? (---2---) R: It look more belivable than the other thing. look, a great pic that is precise and display alot more informations. you can actually from where it come, unlike the other thing, you can actually see its for the saturn, you can see the light opened with the orange switch turned ON , the controller fit on the thing , and you can see all the other slots you whant to see. (---3---) R: Actually , you do the exactly the same Retro. i mean, there's just not enough info, good pictures and proof it's actually a real 100% snes add-on made by sony proto. i don't say it can't be made by sony , but i really (read: REALLY.) doubt it. and there's that controller story, wich was made after that ''prototype'' , that was the good link to say it was from sony, but this link is valable anymore. it could be anything. MSF?: MEDIA SUPER FAMICOM? why not? it could be anything, and if we can't have any pictures of the interior , we can't be sure of what it is. this thing is a mystery , a mystery that could be indeed true, but i see too many people here that are certain it is what it is for actually not allot of reasons , there's just too many dark things that wasn't even talked or checked on this system that we can't be sure of anything before we can saw it. and i just whant to let you hear them , but if you just don't whant to hear those thing i bring, well ...
Cahaz, the drive is a prototyper's slot loading drive. It is that whole black unit, visible from the bottom, with the label on. That label is for the drive, not the whole unit. I had mentioned this before, and what Pulstec do, in fact someone else mentioned too - they make CD units. Maybe you should read what I say more carefully too, cahaz ;-) The problem with screenshots and internal pics is that they prove nothing. Don't you remember the console (was it Jag?) that was shown at an expo, but it was really a PC running a video clip? That would be easier to do than to fake the hardware, mock up a video clip. As for internals, well hey you could take a PCB from anywhere and hardly anyone would know, so I really don't see how either would help.
I claim it's a fake because I found the REAL SNES CD prototype while looking through the Junk bins in Hard Off today !!! :-D See, told you it was real. :smt042 Yakumo
Well, between assembler and the guy with the site, I've established this: Assembler was offered one. Before he saw the topic or pictures, he described it as "a big metal box with a psone looking pad". The pad has a serial port because it connects to the SF Box-II. That means that it DOES go with this machine! Other nintendo proto/dev stuff exists with "NOT FOR SALE" on it. There is at least one more of these machines in existance. They are most likely dev machines. Here's an interesting part from the e-mail: And also...
Ok, thank you! I can now believe it is real. That's all I was asking for, some confirmation of it's authenticitity. :smt045 :smt023 I'd still like to see a picture of it on/ the controller hooked up to it (if possible), just out of interest. :smt045 And in terms of "creating" a fake one of these, eBay would be quite helpful. And cheap, if you found the right parts. :smt045 Anyone know what the guy plans to do with this, if anything?
Sounds like he is just keeping it. He doesn't want to be known, or where it came from... obviously he had a traceable connection and is worried about that. I'd say that the chances of a more than 10 year old Japanese prototyping CD-ROM slot loading drive, probably only sold to Japanese manufacturers, turning up on a Western auction site would be pretty remote. It is rather unlikely that anyone would think anyone would want one, for starters! I don't recall seeing many 1x CD-ROMs selling lately. I'm glad to hear that some people have respect for assembler and take his opinion as fact :smt023
Now that is some dedicated work lolol, but I agree with retro, since nintendo is notorious about keeping secret any of its projects that werent released or are in development, plus i remember assembler did get in trouble with having the biohazzard zero proto for n64.
Yakumo, that is class. :smt043 And Nintendo is a total bitch when it comes to that stuff and piracy. I guess they have a right to be, but I think they may be too anal about their "licensed properties" etc. :smt045
indeed , not even close to it. the controller would be around 100$, but the snes cd proto made by sony would be around thousands and thousands.
Putting a price on proto/unreleased hardware is pointless. Especially $100 for the pad, it could go for much more or much less depending on circumstance.
indeed, but it's aprox. , just to tell that they aren't in the same category of rareness at all. 100$ for that prototype snes cd would be REALLY cheap , but 2000$ for the controller would be too expansive. (that's exemples you know?) a prototype of an especially legendary add-on for a nintendo console ( in this case , the snes , one of the most loved ninty console) made by sony that was changed for the psx , one of the best selling console ever, and that was never released in is ''original'' form worth alot, and isn't in the same category as a prototype controller made by sony for the ps add-on.
