Wii Successor at E3? Game Informer says yes

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  1. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Using the X360 architecture given all the new things that came out in the past 6 years is stupid. Mind I'm not saying that is not gonna happen, as using a ARM9 rather than a Cortex in the 3DS was pretty stupid too, but ninty went ahead anyway.

    On the controller front, they can either improve the wiimote (completely wireless, more precise, etc...) or go against the kinect and be controller-free right out of the box. That would be pretty smart, just like releasing the Wii instead of wiimotes for the GC was.

    I bet the controllers with screens are actually 3DSs, so you'll be able to tether those with your Wii2 in certain games, just like the GBA and GC. Making actual controllers with screens that big doesnt makes any sense, those would cost at least $150 each, whos gonna pay for that? its a controller, not a console.

    Anyways, Kev the fact that the Wii was mostly GC hardware and had a fraction of a fraction of the power of the X360 and PS3 and still outsold both means nobody cares about hardware anymore, not like in the 32bit and 128bit days.
     
  2. derekb

    derekb Well Known Member

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    the 'wii is a toy' arguments are kinda retarded when Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are some of the best games released this generation
     
  3. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    Touch screen in the controller= dead on arrival to true gamers.

    ALL I WANT is a dual analog Saturn pad with my consoles. Can't anybody figure this shit out?

    Also nintendo...VMU... remake them you don't need a huge ass screen. Just steal the VMU idea and give that shit color.
     
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  4. killer7

    killer7 Spirited Member

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    From Twitter:

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    jimreilly Jim Reilly (Ign news director)
    Dual analog sticks on the controller. Can stream game content from the console. Not sure if it'll be full games, mini-games, or apps.

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    jimreilly Jim Reilly (Ign news director)
    There will be first and third party "Wii 2" games at E3. No clue if they'll be playable.
     
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  5. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Slow down there. The average gamer is still going to be impressed by hardware that accomplishes things they haven't seen before. When people saw some of the first stunning 360 and PS3 games they were definitely more likely to buy one. While I would agree no one is going to fall for the lame "bit" arguments they will still be wowed by the things games can pull off with high end computing power. While some gamers don't care so much it is still an important factor.

    The Wii is very aged at this point. I bought two consoles. The first one I sold after awhile when there really weren't any games I wanted to play and was still playing my Xbox 360 all the time instead. I bought another when the 25th SMB Edition came out. I played New SMB for awhile and then eventually it just sits now. I do have PunchOut and Super Monkey Ball to play on it sometime but I'm just not driven to bother. Though it might be me more than anything else, I find I just stick to a few chosen games now. Takes alot to make me interested in trying out a new game now.
     
  6. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Ah twitter! it made so much easier the process of making shit up for our game media overlords...

    Remember when they had to write a whole article about these rumors?

    But now with twitter, instant truthiness!

    EDIT: dude MottZilla I couldnt agree more with you, but numbers speak for themselves and the Wii outsold the other consoles by a large margin, it's the PS2 of this generation.

    Of course graphics matter, else who would buy all those expensive GPUs every 6 months? but in the big picture it isnt that important these days.
     
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  7. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    While I think Nintendo is going for the uber desperate Wii is losing Market share route at E3 and unleash a new console...they're simply just being really late to the current gen party.

    and with these rumored specs...no way is it the uber powered better than the 360/ps3 beast the "sources" (note how they never name them) say it is.

    I can't wait for Nintendo to go 3rd party
     
  8. EvilWays

    EvilWays Gutsy Member

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    I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this. Considering how long they've been a powerhouse, there's no reason for them to not have the resources. To me, it seems they were just lazy with the Wii.
     
  9. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I call total bullshit on the "leaks"

    Although it's logical that they'd go for a PPC design this is further cemented by the fact that IBM has their hand in all current generation consoles so you'd think they ll want to keep Nintendo happy.

    Performance wise, nintendo might be a cheap bastard but I m sure they can afford to release a console with better specifications, namely the latest OpenGL standards.

    I m also almost certain that the next wave of graphics evolution will , as usual, bob its head in the PC market slowly with new technologies that will be included in Microsoft's next console, as I don't see Sony being too eager to releasing a new console.

    Microsoft's probably happy with the state of things now, although I m sure that they can't just sit around and wait if Nintendo do announce a new console.

    All said and done though, I m not in a hurry to change consoles yet. I feel that this generation has a lot to offer because unlike previous generations, it's a complete gaming experience. Things have been moved forward to the point that we wanted them back in the day.

    There's certainly room for improvement but at what cost? Having spent so much money on the acquisition of current generation consoles, their games and their costly peripherals it is way too soon to ask people to shell out more cash, especially in light of the current financial psychology.

    It would be wise to concentrate on the software for current consoles, considering that customers don't seem tired and developers don't seem limited in their ability to provide modern content.

    If anything, I'd say that this generation of consoles, thanks to their updateable nature, should be given more time as many things evolve and mature during the console's lifespan.

    This generation also saw the blooming of proper low-cost developing for game consoles, be it for the IOS, XNA or even Wiiware/Minis. This in itself means more games, many of them bound to be original and hence offering more fuel for the console's lifespan.

    There certainly isn't a need to change consoles yet. Nintendo would be wise not to even announce anything at this E3 considering that the launch of some of their key titles like Zelda is some time away. They best insist on software, since that's what ultimately sells a console and they can give it another year. Besides, Nintendo never "starts off" a generation, they haven't since the NES.
     
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  10. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    When was the last time they had something technolgoically superior to everyone else....

    Yep...

    I call bullshit on your bullshit
     
  11. EvilWays

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    You talk about technological superiority...Nintendo looks at what they perceive what the market desires. That doesn't mean that it matches up all of the time (look at the 3DO...technological superiority over everything else out at the time but it cost a fucking arm and a leg (why didn't Sony learn that lesson?)). It isn't just about technological superiority...you can have the best hardware in the world, but if you don't have any games (or you have shitty games), your best hardware in the world doesn't mean squat.

    If you want to talk, or worry, about technological superiority, then give up the console(s) and play on a computer. Consoles are for convenience of not having to always plop infront of a desk and fire up the PC to play whatever game, but to instead plop down on the couch and play. Got friends over? They can grab a controller too and jump in on the action.

    The handheld side is a bit of a different ball game...who dominates that market (not withstanding other mobile devices)?
     
  12. Infintido

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    I was really hoping the next Nintendo system was going to be the "Nintendo Lucid". Basically you got to go in the actual game and play in a virtual world. ;)

    I guess the technology isn't there yet. So whatever happens with this new system... I know I'll get it eventually. I hope it's not like the Wii though. Myself and others are just over that.
     
  13. EvilWays

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    You mean Super Mario Galaxy on an acid trip isn't enough? :)

    I'd say when 3D display technology matures enough, it might be a bit more possible. Until they invent holodeck technology, not completely likely.
     
  14. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    I got news for everone that argues wii sold well, while the hardware did sell well, the games haven't been selling on average that well. That is the problem. Nintendo isn't a hardware only company, they also do software.

    Since 360 and ps3 games sell a lot better on average, sony and microsoft probably make a lot more on royalties alone from third parties. In fact people who own xboxs tend to buy a lot more games then those who own a wii.

    I mean think about it. Isn't it a disaster if your hardware is selling but the bread and butter of the business, third party royalties, is a complete joke. Not only that microsoft and sony also make more money then nintendo on digital downloads alone. If you add it up the numbers start to make sense and would explain why nintendo would be in a hurry to swtich gears so fast.

    Let us not also forget xbox live, a service that continues to thrive.

    Also 3ds isn't selling that well in the states, cause at work and other places I see a ton of them just sitting on the shelves. Problem is the price is out of the range of most people during this economic time. Plus there is no killer app that really screams you have to buy this.
     
  15. GodofHardcore

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    YAY for Non Answers.

    Nintendo NEVER asks what the public wants since the n64 they've TOLD THEM.

    And the Brainless Nintendo Loyal just follow blindly. I hope this time if this ridiculous system is for real everyone has the sense to say NO.
     
  16. Christer-swe

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    Why don't you just wait for it and see if there's any good games on it before you judge it?
     
  17. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    they did that in the 60's but then it became illegal. No wonder they had to invent video games.
     
  18. WanganRunner

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    I'm perfectly content buying Nintendo hardware solely to play first-party software, provided that it continues to be so good.

    That said, a increased reliance on rehashes would deter me.

    If you need third party releases to justify a Nintendo hardware purchase, you probably just shouldn't buy, because you're going to be disappointed.
     
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  20. EvilWays

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    Under different circumstances (read: if the economy were in better shape), then 8GB might be possible if MS/Sony/Ninty were able to negotiate a nice discount on volume purchase of memory. As it is currently, we'd be lucky if the next-gen consoles have 2GB of RAM.

    Besides, consoles don't need as much RAM since it isn't running a full-blown OS with multiple programs open at once. Crytek can suck a lemon for all I care if they really feel they "need" 8GB in a console.
     
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