Wii Successor at E3? Game Informer says yes

Oh man, I loved that video. While it was so obviously not real it was still brilliant.

 

In spite of all this talk of a Wii 2, it seems like kind of a bad move to me. If Nintendo were to come out with a new system and the other companies didn't come out with a new console for another 2 or 3 years, then that would put the Nintendo console in a Dreamcast-like position. It might be different because it's Nintendo instead of Sega, but if history has any bearing on current trends then it would probably fail.

I haven't really been following the rumors about it, but what I've heard sounds fake. I do think, however, that if Nintendo is going to release a new console it must have some new feature besides simply being more powerful than a Wii. Something similar to the Wiimote, but something new.

 

I hope Nintendo is using at least an AMD RV770. That would provide two orders of magnitude increase in graphics over the Hollywood GPU in Wii, and much more performance than either Xbox 360's Xenos or PS3's RSX. RV770 came out on 55nm process IIRC. So at 28nm it should be very small, power efficient and cool, I believe. If Wii HD doesn't use RV770, then I would hope for a Trinity Fusion APU.

 

Is that real? (it seems like SDK)

 

http://kotaku.com/#!5794424/fresh-d...ontroller-and-why-it-wont-kill-the-wii-remote

Its main controller, as rumored, will include a touchscreen, two analog sticks and a camera, we've confirmed with our own games industry sources who are familiar with Nintendo's plans for the machine.

That new controller's screen will measure 6.2 inches and the controller will also include eight buttons. It won't necessarily be, however, the controller that every Wii 2 gamer uses. It isn't even being positioned as a replacement for the famous Wii Remote.

The new Nintendo console, which some have been referring to as Project Café, will also support Nintendo Wii remote-style controllers.

 

The problem is that right now even with the 360 and PS3 being somewhat old it would be pretty expensive to create newer more powerful consoles. Sure they could do it, but the advantages would not likely be as obvious to the consumer as the differences between other generations. So Nintendo finally catching up to modern specs wouldn't necessarily be like you say, being stuck a generation behind.

 

http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/116/1163325p1.html

Project Cafe: The Tech Behind Nintendo's Next Console
New pricing, hardware, design, and release information uncovered.
by Scott Lowe

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More details of Nintendo's forthcoming console, codenamed Project Cafe aka Wii 2, have been revealed to IGN, including the system's estimated pricing, release, console design, processing architecture, and name.

According to sources with knowledge of the project, Nintendo's next console could have a retail price of anywhere between $350 and $400 based on manufacturing costs, and will ship from Taiwanese manufacturer, Foxconn, this October, putting the earliest possible retail release anywhere between mid-October and early November.

However, Nintendo could also opt to build up a sizable supply of the system and allocate more time for software and games development by launching in early 2012. Similarly, Nintendo could attempt to lower the retail price of the system with lower profit margins to make the price more alluring.

Since the manufacturing is taking place in Taiwan, the earthquakes and tsunami that hit Japan last month will not impact the console hardware as previously expected.

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Additionally, IGN has learned that the system will be based on a revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU architecture, not AMD's Fusion technology as previously believed, which will, as previously reported, out perform the PlayStation 3's NVIDIA 7800GTX-based processor. Like the Xbox 360, the system's CPU will be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset, but the clocking speeds will be faster. The system will support 1080p output with the potential for stereoscopic 3D as well, though it has not been determined whether that will be a staple feature.

In terms of the design of the console itself, the overall size will be comparable to that of the original Xbox 360 and the system is likely to resemble a modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES).

As reported last week, it will indeed utilize controllers with integrated touchscreens and be capable of streaming games to each controller, though given the power of the system, could also feasibly provide a virtualized console for each individual unit.

Finally, Nintendo is considering naming the console Stream, though it is potentially one of several names currently being vetted by the company.

We contacted Nintendo representatives, but they declined to comment on "rumors or speculation."

For more on Project Cafe, stay tuned to IGN.com.

 

My god.........these rumors are full of BS!

A $400 nintendo console? unreliable X360 hardware? big ass case unlike those of the Wii and GC? a 6in screen as controller when people complain about 4in screens in smartphones being too big?

Let alone using the styling of the SNES! I wonder if they mean the super famicom or the MKII version, since the original grey and purple brick doesnt fits with today minimalistic electronics.

I'm gonna laugh so hard if at the end theres no new Wii at all:lol:

 

Agreed Shadowlayer the rumors are just getting more bizarre now. As for the leaked designs I'm not sure what to think but they are screaming out fake to me.

I really think if Nintendo bring out a new console now they will get a fair bit of backlash from already existing Wii owners as the console hasn't really had a good lifespan. Not to mention the games went from bad to worse to just being party games.

Guessing the new Zelda will be ported over to this new console and will have a similar fate to Twilight Princess.

 

Unlike the N64 and GC which had mammoth libraries.

 

I'm not trusting anything until it is posted by Zach Morris.

 

To be fair the N64 had a good lifespan and had a load of classic gems on it. Still one of my favourite consoles and one that I spent many hours playing on multi-player in my younger days.

The Gamecube had a fairly average lifespan i admit but it sold no where near as much as the Wii has now and I'm sure people were expecting more from it. Maybe this is just me?

 

Where the hell are all these rumors coming from? There was never this much information before any prior Nintendo console launch.

The "SNES look" thing is amusing though.

 

6.2 inch touchscreen on a nintendo controller? are these people on crack? Nintendo makes kid-proof stuff. 6.2 inches of a screen is neither that durable nor cheap to produce/replace, let alone the fact that its battery would be drained every 5 hours.

Logic dictates that this is a questionable scenario but ign posting it creeps me out.

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Obvious lie:

nice going ign. Faster than 3.2 ghz? nintendo? really?

 

Are you really insisting that a company that has more or less 10 billion dollars in the bank ( cash and cash equivalent ) doesn't have the "resources" ?

The reason why Nintendo systems were never really powerhouse in absolute terms is because they want to maximize their profit at all cost.
Even when they had advanced graphics ( every Nintendo consoles except the Wii ) that come at the cost of a late release ( 1 or 2 years later main competition ) and features-cutting.

LOL
Nintendo bread and butter is Nintendo software not third-party royalties.
Profit margin on their hardware that they always sell at a profit just add up to that.
This generation Nintendo software on DS and Wii boomed.
Sales were so strong that Nintendo in the last 6 years gained vast profits ( on a scale never before seen for hardware manufacturer in the videogames business).

 

If they are aiming for ~XB360 power, they're making a mistake.

Also, $400 would be crazy pricing. I'm guessing $300.

 

but Jim, even PCs with much more power than the 360 don't show a very noticeable difference from the 360 version for the most part, and you know it be true!

The power to render noticeably better graphics than those of today is at least a couple of years away in my view.

 

You got to be shitting me, have you seen the Unreal4 demo?

Do you know what tessellation is? here's an example:

Without



And WITH tessellation



Even midend GPUs support that now, and most PC games support it.

And considering most console games today arent truly HD but upscaled I think we can do a little better

6 years people, thats a long time in hardware terms.

 

Not to beat on the dead horse, as we did talk about this recently, but for me the internal rendering resolutions of console games (360/PS3) are really starting to show. Dead Space 2 comes to mind, there were lots of places in that game where the jaggies were irritatingly obviously. It doesn't detract from the game particularly, but it's a shame nevertheless. That said:

I'd say it'll be another couple of years at least before Microsoft or Sony release new hardware. Developers today are in a bind, because it's a financial imperative that they target the consoles as well as the PC, and this has an obvious effect on the PC versions of games. A top-spec PC with huge amounts of RAM and a powerful graphics card is a different beast to a 360 or a PS3. Looking forwards it'll really be market conditions more than anything else that prevent the next leap from being visible.

 

The Tessellation example is a perfect example of diminishing returns.

I could barely squint and not tell the difference. It isn't like going from SNES to N64 or something, where there was a dramatic change. People are just going to stop caring after awhile.


Also, Nintendo could give a shit about 3rd party software, and so far this indifference is working just fine for them. I wouldn't expect it to change.