Where did I say Nintendo asks the public anything? I didn't. I said it's what Nintendo perceives what the market wants. I also said they don't always get it right. Look at the N64...Ninty thought that people would still stick with carts for games, which Sony and Sega proved wrong with the PS1 and Saturn respectively, and look at our game formats now. For online play, Ninty had to be dragged kicking and screaming for that functionality by the people since the PS2 and Xbox both had that option. Yay for you saying Nintendo's new console is already irrelevant even though there's been no official announcement about any of it yet. When they announce it and give detailed information about it, and you think it still sucks, then fine...but wait for official information to come out first before you judge it.
Part of me really feels alot of this has to be false. I'm trying to bend my mind around a controller with a color high def display, ablility to stream from the console.. wireles yet what about the batery life of such a controler.. let alone how about Wi backwards compatability with a controler like that. ... After the years of Nintendo preaching about the Blue Ocean... this seems like a partly opposite direction..... E3 just got a WHOLE lot more interesting!
I dunno, I feel like this thing could be pretty unconventional. If there's some "megaton" gimmick feature about it, there's no way it would have leaked, but I'm sort of expecting one anyway. Nothing like that has ever leaked out of Nintendo before, pre-announcement, at least not in any meaningful way.
3 generations in a Row Nintendo Let me down on the console front. History speaks for it self. Nintendo in an ideal World would just stick to the only things they can get right with true gamers, Handhelds.... beyond that they should just go 3rd party.
I would not say that N64 was a huge let down. While it wasn't perfect and didn't achieve domination the NES enjoyed, at the time it was fairly successful and most people I knew owned one. Eventually it sort of faded away and people were playing alot more Playstation but it had a good run. The GameCube was a let down for sure. At the beginning it seemed promising. There were a few sweet games here and there but the system couldn't stand up to the PS2's third party support. The Wii is much like the GameCube to me. It seemed to have promise early on but actually I think it's equal to or less than the enjoyment of the GameCube for me. I suppose it still has time but it's definitely not something like the N64 was which again I remember everyone playing a ton of N64.
God of Hardcore likes to look at certain facts, and ignore others to try to prove his point. you so funny.
While I certainly agree with you on the Gamecube (as it really only had Pikmin), the N64 had two of the absolute best games of its generation (Mario 64 and Zelda: Ocarina of Time) and the Wii has some of the best games of its generation (NSMBWii, Super Mario Galaxy, Donkey Kong Country Returns). So, I agree with 33.33% of your statement.
it's generation...which is the last one. ANYWAYs I actually need to play Mario 64 and OOT. OOT Is a buy when I get a 3DS YES I hate nintendo and even I'm won over on the 3DS
You know, there I am, reading properly written phrases with actual intelligent content in them, and then I see this. I can understand how frustrating it is to be different from others, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to match the intelligent format that other people use to express themselves. It would be more interesting to read your posts if they had actual content and structure. Sorry, I like quality when I'm high. PS: sorry for sounding like a dick.
They have shifted from relying on software sales like everybody else to mostly hardware. Its a no brainer that nintendo has been making a lot of dough with each Wii sold, considering it has been more expensive than the console in which it was based on, and that one was around $50 years before the Wii launched. Thats Apple's strategy, they make great software (OSX, iOS, Finalcutpro, Safari) and have 3rd parties (appstore) but most of the cash comes from hardware sales, some articles being 50% net profit which combined with their own stores means more money for the company and less for middlemen. No wonder nintendo tried to open their own stores too. Besides both MS and Sony had to sell their consoles at a loss for quite some time, and thats without counting hw issues like RRODs. Then theres some really high R&D costs (Wii was mostly GC hardware and wiimotes had been developed years ago) and both Live and PSN require a lot of money to keep operational, I wouldnt be surprised if subscriptions barely cover the costs of servers. On a side note the appstore doesnt makes that much money for apple, so much for the fab-less economy some retards like to brag about. About the 3DS, I say its too early to tell. The price is BS though, it costs $100.71 to make so they could easily sell it for $150 and still make a profit on each unit sold, let alone creating a bigass userbase before the NGP its even out of beta. So if sales go down that gives you an idea of how big of a price cut the 3DS may get.
You say they have let you down 2 generations in a row although you have yet to try Mario64 and OoT? It sounds like you haven't given them much chances. Speak for yourself. I'd like to call myself a "true gamer" and I love the games they have on Wii.
i agree with most u say but i would differ on the online service costs... you have to split server / bandwith costs from the service costs like people u need to run them if you look at the hardware id say that server power has gone so cheap in the last years its not so much important in the calculation the human resource on the other side has gone up i think in cost you need more and more people to run these behemoths to administrate and build content which you propably cant outsource that easy to china (but who knows)
Shadowlayer: The 3DS has $100 worth of PARTS. You have to count: Assembly R&D Marketing Packaging Software (OS) Shipping of parts from all over the world Taxes and Tariffs Honestly. If you want a bag of parts with no OS, $150 would be reasonable.
As I said in the previous thread a week ago.. Wii2 is old news, the devkits where shipped months ago.. And I quote from the documentary..
Here's to hoping that the dev tools and their price will be better this time. Microsoft really made an impression on me with XNA.
What are you expecting the prices to be? $99 for an XNA license is great bang for the buck when you're just starting out