"Let's make GD ROM emulation happen" Facebook group.

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  1. NANDOGAMES

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  2. Braintrash

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    So, there is this new DC game named MNEMO : find the next not working game and get him to fix it. :p

    Seriously, he has been fast to fix, it is very nice from him. The guy is really serious, I like it.
     
  3. keropi

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    from what I understood he'll make more tests and then release a new fw...

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    nope , confirmed that there won't be a fw update just for this , once more bugs are found there will be a release.
    I am not sure how I feel about that, certainly not good... :|
     
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  4. lolof

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    Yes, I just received my board and was asking him for the update....
    He wants to make a major update and need more bugs... It's not so bad !
     
  5. Rocky5

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    Ask him, if he can make the device check for a initialised HDD at the swirl, because if you turn off the DC & on to quick sometimes the HDD doesn't initialise & we get the static swirl. (Pain in the ass)

    I'm not on ICQ.
     
  6. keropi

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    ^ I don't get that, I do turn on/off the DC quickly and the 500GB 2.5" WD passport hd I am using behaves OK.
    This problem and the power on/off thing (which I find annoying) will be solved once the cd lid is operational , then you will just open the lid and have the DC reset instead of power-cycling.
    I will mention this to him either way.

    @lolof
    I would REALLY like updates for every bug found, this is not a small one and you don't know if it can affect already working games at some point in gameplay at later stages. It's kind of a major bug when a device says "100% compatible" and it really isn't.
    The device is already behind the "competition" , GDEMU has a menu now and it supports .CDI images as well. The only advantage MNEMO's board has atm is the USB port.
     
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  7. LordFenixNC

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    i dont see the issue here. he is just wanting to collect and fix everything in batches instead of poping out a update every 6 hours dont forget when he does fix something he could effect something else as well... so here is the trick... download if you have not already... ALL of my GDIs in the software section... load them up and test EVERY game just make sure they boot start up a fresh game and then load the game up again but try to skip as much stuff as you can to see if you can trip it up. Get a Nice sheet of games working or not working and what happens with the correct version name and what not... and he will knock them out and release it in bulk updates.

    Lets not forget this 1 guy is not only patching software and updating what is currently out.. but also BUILDING the boards from scratch and programming them.
     
  8. keropi

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    ^ sorry I don't agree with that.
    He obviously found what's wrong with the non-loading game and he obviously have a test fw that he used to verify it's working - unless it's all theoretical and he tested nothing.
    Rolling out "huge" updates is nice and all, but what is the issue to release a tiny (or not, who knows what the problem was) fw update when you have already built it and tested it? If not anything else, you'll have more testers to ensure that it works.
    The "get more bugs to release an update" is something that suits a huge company not giving a rat's ass, not a person wanting to sell his boards. This is the stuff that makes great product support , not the other way around. When you boast "100% compatibility" it means that you tested 100% of games yourself before selling anything , you are not implying that others should do that and they need to get a bunch of non-working titles so an update gets released.

    Is it really a big deal atm? NO. Does his asnwer "creating fw update after every bug report - it's too headache." bothers me? Yes.
     
  9. Comp1demon

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    I agree with both of you....

    If there was a huge amount of boards that have not gone out yet and he needs the time to work on those then sure, I can understanding waiting on an update with the attitude of - perhaps I can roll out a big update and not
    just a small one.

    But I also agree with the other statement. When it comes to MNEMOS device we are probably talking about 20 users TOPS. I don't think he has sold more than 20 boards - so really if there is a fix to a minor problem, the fix should go out, weather it breaks something else or not. I rather get a new firmware that breaks more things right now - with the ability to flash back to a previous firmware should I need to, than wait on a huge firmware update that could have those same bugs and then we
    have to wait another long period of time to fix those as well and get stuck back at square one. I prefer to find the minor bugs with incremental firmware updates that way we can help the product maker update the product to make it better
    than to all sit and wait and then get something that might now be what we are waiting for.

    ON a positive note my GDEMU from DEUNAN Shipped today.
     
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  10. darcagn

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    Has anyone had any compatibility issues with Deunan's GDEMU? Mine arrives tomorrow.
     
  11. LordFenixNC

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    if you are not happy with your purchase ill gladly buy it from you.. hell if you are willing to handle payments i pay a Extra $100 for your trouble. I do understand where you are coming from. but I am sure you didnt buy this product for 1 game.
     
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    Obviously I haven't tried them all - but every GDI I've tried has worked perfectly :)

    Only had 2 things in CDI format not work so far - one is bleemcast for metal gear solid (not really a problem - was just interested to see if it would work lol) and the other was Twinkle Star Sprites - English translation. (Though the ReviveDC release of this game on CDI did work)
     
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    Thats awesome dude... happy its all working... as for that 1 game could have been a bad CDI maybe?
     
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    :concern:
    still gouging away at this i am.
    it would be very helpful (userbase at large with gdi spoof of any kind) if the kool-kidz could document IN FULL what game does what on what and include FULL disk/regional id's.
    i'll be doing the same, but i'll give advance heads-up elsewhere first (then copy and paste subject to this thread) as the users here have a handle on it.
    example of document:
    1, gamename (PAL) [x.xxxx.xx] (effect it had)
    2, hardware/gdi spoof type and board revision/firmware.
    3, console region and revision.
    4, any prior modification to said console, like bios flashes/dual bank. (it WILL effect the outcome vs unmodified)
    much much appreciated ladies and gents.
    lets keep a strict catalogue of events. (i've put outsiders onto this subject, at the recommendation they remain as GUEST viewers...for now)
    thanks for reading. :witless:
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    typo.
     
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    Thats awesome dude... happy its all working... as for that 1 game could have been a bad CDI maybe?
     
  16. keropi

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    Of course I did not buy the board for one game, but his answer above along with all the secrecy/no_docs/no_to-do list/no_info/no_plans/no_good-coms (you get the point) just combined to disappointment of some kind.
    I would really not mind if he told me something along the lines of "I am busy making boards atm, will release fw after I am done with the batch" , this is perfectly acceptable and understandable , but implying the user base must find more bugs to warrant an update because it's too much trouble ? - it's just bogus.

    All we know for the future is that the lid switch will be implemented and that more features will come if the DC community supports the product. What features are these though? It's a secret. When I asked about CDI support I did not get a straight answer, just the support stuff. Well the DC community wants to support it but it's so difficult to do... even buying feels like a chore - I am sure you already understand that.

    Having said that, what kind of problems do you have? He is not answering you? Can't make a WU payment? If you thing I can help (without the 100$, keep'em for beer ;) ) drop me a PM.
     
  17. LordFenixNC

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    na i just have 3 kids and just started a new job... and bills suck... and dont expect him to do payment plan LOL... did ask about batch order with discount and he replied wont do that till he starts mass production... he seems cool he already knows i dont have the $$ but takes some time out of random days to just message me new info... im not even a customer and he takes some time... sure sucks on his response and almost like talking to yoda due to the fact i dont know russian at all and his english is not that great... (google translate sucks)

    but yea... i only have $20 here and 30 there... i start work next month i hope... soo i might get a lil more spending money... but again 3 kids... 15, 13, 2.....
     
  18. amiga1200

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    ^^ called feedback reports, vital to improve upon an existing situation.
    i don't care how skilled a developer is, they can't account for EVERY possible item running. (and since cdi/iso is in the mix, gonna piss the hardliner right off) these items were built for 1/1 true gdi dumps.
    the fact the cdi/iso is entertained is more that one could have expected. (the gdi catalogue is only so big in terms of build types, custom images are as random as spock snorting a fat white line)
    ...
    what i've been reading so far does appear to be promising, but there's a way off a final product, and the devs do need to correlate with end-user feedback in order to fix problems, it's only reasonable. they're NOT gods. :smile-new: (max respect for what they do)
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  19. keropi

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    And such a report has been given by at least 2 people here about the same problem and the solution was found as reported by the dev.
    The point of discussion here is the fact that apparently more feedback regarding other problems is needed to warrant an update - one bug is not enough.

    It feels that this particular discussion has reached to an end, speculating and arguing about something we don't know or have control over is getting tiresome quickly as all that is done is stating the obvious in a subject that has valid arguments on both sides.
    So ... /rant over from my part. Now it's time for the waiting game.
     
  20. LordFenixNC

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    no keropi.... i need you to get soo angry and accept my money lol
     
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